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Post by Bonzo on Aug 26, 2018 11:22:10 GMT -5
Yeah those remotes are gorgeous. That may be, BUT, I'd still bet more than not end up spending 99% of their life tucked away in a drawer. Its just wasted cost.
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Post by socketman on Aug 26, 2018 12:40:33 GMT -5
I am hoping they are not releasing this amazing unit with the same style of HEAVY remote that came with the XMC-1. That thing is not practical for normal use. I got a NEEO remote just to replace the stock remote that feels better to use and fits in your hand comfortably. I love this place, what rock have i been living under that i did not know this company existed. This is why i keep coming back.
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Post by pknaz on Aug 26, 2018 14:06:30 GMT -5
I am hoping they are not releasing this amazing unit with the same style of HEAVY remote that came with the XMC-1. That thing is not practical for normal use. I got a NEEO remote just to replace the stock remote that feels better to use and fits in your hand comfortably. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I LOVE the XMC-1 remote, and I love the metal, heavy weight, almost indestructible build quality of it. My only gripe is that its IR instead of RF.
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Post by jdmusante on Aug 26, 2018 14:30:34 GMT -5
I am hoping they are not releasing this amazing unit with the same style of HEAVY remote that came with the XMC-1. That thing is not practical for normal use. I got a NEEO remote just to replace the stock remote that feels better to use and fits in your hand comfortably. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I LOVE the XMC-1 remote, and I love the metal, heavy weight, almost indestructible build quality of it. My only gripe is that its IR instead of RF. My wife and I nicknamed the XMC-1 remote the 'Dog Killer'. As in if if fell off the couch and and onto one of the dogs it would kill them. It's so overbuilt it's ridiculous. That's why I typically just use the app.
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Post by klinemj on Aug 26, 2018 15:44:49 GMT -5
The only times I have used any Emotiva remote have been when I didn't have a task programmed into my Logitech remote. Honestly, I'd rather they just made sure the appropriate codes were in the Logitech database "day one" and provide a basic plastic remote with reasonable ergonomics. The weapons-grade remotes are cool but certainly not ergo-friendly, and I don't really need that level of weapon as a remote. If it saved some $ off each product, I'd go for it if I were them and pass the savings along (or avoid a price increase).
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Post by klinemj on Aug 26, 2018 15:45:44 GMT -5
(I do really like the nicely designed DC-1 remote...nice little device!)
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 26, 2018 17:09:19 GMT -5
Yeah those remotes are gorgeous. Yes, they sure do spruce up the inside of the remote drawer! ... and if you have several Emo remotes they stack very nicely 😀
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Post by cawgijoe on Aug 26, 2018 21:30:27 GMT -5
The only times I have used any Emotiva remote have been when I didn't have a task programmed into my Logitech remote. Honestly, I'd rather they just made sure the appropriate codes were in the Logitech database "day one" and provide a basic plastic remote with reasonable ergonomics. The weapons-grade remotes are cool but certainly not ergo-friendly, and I don't really need that level of weapon as a remote. If it saved some $ off each product, I'd go for it if I were them and pass the savings along (or avoid a price increase). Mark I use the weapon grade remotes all the time. Love em. I use Logitech also, but sometimes it’s quicker to use the actual remote. I hate cheap plastic remotes.
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Post by novisnick on Aug 26, 2018 22:32:35 GMT -5
Where’s the new software update? I’m tired of waiting for it!,,,,,,,,,Is it too soon for that? LOL
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Post by garbulky on Aug 27, 2018 12:49:26 GMT -5
So you guys think this $5000 product is going to be $4992 with a cheaper remote?
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Post by amaheshw on Aug 27, 2018 13:00:36 GMT -5
I am as excited as everyone else here for the RMC-1, but NONE of the admins here have ever responded to the following questions that I have asked MULTIPLE times:
1) What good is a balanced processor without a matching balanced amp? A single-ended amp will negate much of the benefits of the balanced processor. 2) Is Emo working on modular multichannel balanced amps (yes I am aware of the double-wides, but I don't need that kind of power)?
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Post by Casey Leedom on Aug 27, 2018 13:23:10 GMT -5
I am as excited as everyone else here for the RMC-1, but NONE of the admins here have ever responded to the following questions that I have asked MULTIPLE times: 1) What good is a balanced processor without a matching balanced amp? A single-ended amp will negate much of the benefits of the balanced processor. Nope. Using a non-balanced amplifier does not negate the effects of running the preprocessor circuits in balanced mode. You'll still get all of the signal isolation within the preprocessor. And if you use balanced interconnects, you'll get the noise immunity that they offer in a rack where all sorts of cables are crowded together. That's up to someone at Emotiva to answer ... Casey[/quote]
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Post by cwt on Aug 27, 2018 13:28:54 GMT -5
2) Is Emo working on modular multichannel balanced amps (yes I am aware of the double-wides, but I don't need that kind of power)? There is the chance of Emo developing balanced class D amps as they have obvious utility for 16 channels size wise We already have the balanced PA-1 and the coming XMR-1 has class D pascal modules . So I hope we get more class D ; I like efficiency so even class H would suit
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Post by Casey Leedom on Aug 27, 2018 13:34:11 GMT -5
I think that amaheshw is talking about Fully Balanced Amplifier designs, not the use of Balanced Interconnects between the preprocessor and the amplifier ... Casey
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Post by klinemj on Aug 27, 2018 14:05:07 GMT -5
but NONE of the admins here have ever responded to the following questions that I have asked MULTIPLE times: FYI, most of the admins here are not Emotiva employees or spokespeople...net, don't expect them to answer questions for Emotiva. One employee does frequent here...ask for KeithL specifically if you want his response. Your best bet if you want to ask Emotiva questions is to call them...not rely on the forum. This is more for us users to talk about products and how to use them. That said, regarding your second question, I've not heard any word that Emotiva is working on a multichannel fully balanced amp. You can buy fully balanced amps from them, such as you note. Might they be working on some other options? Sure...they might be but who knows...call them and ask to see what they say. Mark
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 27, 2018 15:50:41 GMT -5
In its ‘default’ configuration the RMC-1 should do 7.3.6 which would give you up to 3 subs, that should take care of most people (I’ll be good with 2). Those with more subs, those wanting 9.1.6, and those wanting the most complete sub configuration options, might want the sub module—if it comes to be—or something like a mini-dsp (hey Bonzo, can you get 4 XLR’s on one of those slot plates?) When I did this the other day, using the old picture we have, from what I see they can get 4, even 5, but not 6. Of course they could always us mini-XLRs like the NAD unit uses, or use RCAs, to get it up to 6. View AttachmentOne thing I just noticed is in the newer picture like AVS is showing, there is a differecne in the screw locations for the module covers. I'm assuming the old location has changed to better accommodate actual connections etc. Old placement. AVS picture placement
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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 27, 2018 18:06:27 GMT -5
On the subject of the remote controls, the aluminium extrusion used to make them is mass produced and then cut to length, hence quite low cost. Especially when compared to low unit moulded plastic, where the volume required to justify the cost of the master is quite high. The end stops to match the extrusion are also mass produced. The internals, PCB, battery pack, push buttons etc would be much the same cost wise (ie; regardless of what the external packaging is).
So for what is unlikely to be more than a few dollars difference I’ll take the weapons grade remote thanks.
Cheers Gary
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 27, 2018 18:55:32 GMT -5
When I did this the other day, using the old picture we have, from what I see they can get 4, even 5, but not 6. Of course they could always us mini-XLRs like the NAD unit uses, or use RCAs, to get it up to 6. View AttachmentOne thing I just noticed is in the newer picture like AVS is showing, there is a differecne in the screw locations for the module covers. I'm assuming the old location has changed to better accommodate actual connections etc. Old placement. View AttachmentAVS picture placement View AttachmentOh, and they also moved the XLR digital input.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 27, 2018 23:23:26 GMT -5
1) What good is a balanced processor without a matching balanced amp? A single-ended amp will negate much of the benefits of the balanced processor. 2) Is Emo working on modular multichannel balanced amps (yes I am aware of the double-wides, but I don't need that kind of power)? As Casey Leedom said you don’t need a fully balanced amp to take advantage of balanced circuitry elsewhere in the system ... but why not (16) PA-1’s!
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Post by cwt on Aug 28, 2018 13:05:45 GMT -5
I think that amaheshw is talking about Fully Balanced Amplifier designs, not the use of Balanced Interconnects between the preprocessor and the amplifier ... Casey Precisely what I was talking about mate ; the PA1 is a fully balanced class D design . \ emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/949230/thread
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