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Post by fbczar on Oct 25, 2018 13:49:27 GMT -5
Ok, what is the best way to get the high res audio? I assume if I airplay it from my iphone to the 8802a that I also would not be getting the high res audio? The Masters(MQA) are only available to play on the Tidal desktop program on a Mac or PC, you have to download it to the Mac or PC and connect the Mac or PC to the 8805. tidal.com/us/downloadChad Sorry, but that is not entirely correct. Audirvana will also do the first unfold of MQA via Tidal. So if you used Audirvana you could stream Tidal to the 8805. |
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Post by davidl81 on Oct 25, 2018 14:04:21 GMT -5
Ok, what is the best way to get the high res audio? I assume if I airplay it from my iphone to the 8802a that I also would not be getting the high res audio? Correct. You could could run tidal from a computer and connect the computer to you Marantz 8805. You could also use Audirvana on a computer and stream Tidal to your 8805 and control everything with an iPhone or iPad. I use Audirvana with Tidal streamed over a WiFi network and it sounds great. Audirvana is very inexpensive, but it sounds tremendous. Ok, I thought the appleTV was the answer, but I was incorrect. I will install Audrivana on my PC and tablet and see how it goes. Thank you very much for the help. |
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Post by creimes on Oct 25, 2018 15:31:22 GMT -5
The Masters(MQA) are only available to play on the Tidal desktop program on a Mac or PC, you have to download it to the Mac or PC and connect the Mac or PC to the 8805. tidal.com/us/downloadChad Sorry, but that is not entirely correct. Audirvana will also do the first unfold of MQA via Tidal. So if you used Audirvana you could stream Tidal to the 8805. Does Tidal work within Audirvana giving you access to the MQA albums or do you need to run the desktop version of Tidal with Audirvana, sorry i'm not familiar with it, I actually did purchase it a few years back to run with my iTunes software |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 25, 2018 15:45:57 GMT -5
Ok, what is the best way to get the high res audio? I assume if I airplay it from my iphone to the 8802a that I also would not be getting the high res audio? The Masters(MQA) are only available to play on the Tidal desktop program on a Mac or PC, you have to download it to the Mac or PC and connect the Mac or PC to the 8805. tidal.com/us/downloadChad The MQA's do play via Roon, and Roon does the 1st unfold. (Need a MQA DAC to do 2nd) Mark |
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Post by creimes on Oct 25, 2018 15:52:50 GMT -5
The Masters(MQA) are only available to play on the Tidal desktop program on a Mac or PC, you have to download it to the Mac or PC and connect the Mac or PC to the 8805. tidal.com/us/downloadChad The MQA's do play via Roon, and Roon does the 1st unfold. (Need a MQA DAC to do 2nd) Mark Do you need to have the Tidal software running or is there some sort of login into Tidal withing Roon ? |
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Post by Loop 7 on Oct 25, 2018 15:58:57 GMT -5
Do you need to have the Tidal software running or is there some sort of login into Tidal withing Roon ? No. TIDAL is embedded in Roon. You simply enter your TIDAL username and password in the Roon settings and it's all set.  |
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Post by Loop 7 on Oct 25, 2018 16:02:48 GMT -5
The Masters(MQA) are only available to play on the Tidal desktop program on a Mac or PC... I believe Amarra, Audirvana and Roon also do the first unfolding of TIDAL MQA tracks. |
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Post by Loop 7 on Oct 25, 2018 16:04:37 GMT -5
I'm wondering if I should do a complete Roon and TIDAL in Roon demonstration video. There is so much confusion around what is a very simple product (Roon).
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Post by creimes on Oct 25, 2018 16:30:18 GMT -5
The Masters(MQA) are only available to play on the Tidal desktop program on a Mac or PC... I believe Amarra, Audirvana and Roon also do the first unfolding of TIDAL MQA tracks. I meant more for someone not using that 3rd party software and just using the Tidal app or program, I should have been more clear haha |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 25, 2018 16:34:58 GMT -5
I believe Amarra, Audirvana and Roon also do the first unfolding of TIDAL MQA tracks. I meant more for someone not using that 3rd party software and just using the Tidal app or program, I should have been more clear haha No matter how you listen to Tidal, you need to be logged in. If just using Tidal, you log into it...and each time it starts, it will log in for you with your stored credentials. If you use Roon (or Sonos like I use for Tidal in some parts of my house), it also automatically logs in with your stored credentials. If using Roon (or Sonos), you don't need to separately have Tidal running. That "3rd party" system logs in and you don't have to have Tidal loaded somewhere else. Mark |
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 25, 2018 17:20:54 GMT -5
If one has a DAC that can do hardware unfolding of MQA content (such as a Mytek), does one need anything more than the TIDAL desktop application to get "full MQA?"
Also, should one opt to use Roon as a "front-end" for TIDAL, will MQA content remain intact through Roon?
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Post by mr on Oct 25, 2018 17:30:45 GMT -5
Hi Boom...I myself do not feel the necessity for ROON or JRiver but everyone likes different flavors so course you have choices. I just want to say that IMO TIDAL has significantly improve on its streaming capabilities. I live in Southeast Pennsylvania and in the beginning of my adoption with TIDAL there were drop-offs and they were annoying despite how infrequent. When I started with TIDAL I was using APPLE TV/Airplay...that maybe could have contributed to the drop-offs..who knows. I persistently communicated with TIDAL to resolve the issue. They were very forthcoming although communication from a Norwegian company you have to be patient. Since then I have changed my system with streaming TIDAL. I purchased a Mac-Mini and a Samsung Monitor for a mere $532.00 and an HDMI cable from BJC. I also purchased AIRSERVER online with a one time fee of $15.00. TIDAL is entirety different from when I first signed up.. Absolutely no drop offs. I remember you had mentioned that was an issue when you first signed up and you were disappointed with TIDAL and BB. I am very happy with the format...everything with TIDAL, but that's me and my experience. Just wanted to share. If you are a vet there is a big discount. blue Blue gets this right. I did two runs at Tidal unsuccessfully. Third time thru Mac Mini proved the concept. And Roon sealed the deal. The veteran’s discount of 40% is handy, too. SQ is good to excellent. So superior to Apple or Amazon streaming. |
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Post by novisnick on Oct 25, 2018 17:44:10 GMT -5
If one has a DAC that can do hardware unfolding of MQA content (such as a Mytek), does one need anything more than the TIDAL desktop application to get "full MQA?" Also, should one opt to use Roon as a "front-end" for TIDAL, will MQA content remain intact through Roon? 1) Tidal premium to receive full MQA. 2) Yes Im enjoying Todal, Roon and my HHD via Ma Mini to the utmost! |
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 25, 2018 18:55:57 GMT -5
Thanks, Nick!
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Post by hemster on Oct 25, 2018 19:28:41 GMT -5
I'm wondering if I should do a complete Roon and TIDAL in Roon demonstration video. There is so much confusion around what is a very simple product (Roon).  |
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Post by bluemeanies on Oct 26, 2018 4:18:29 GMT -5
If one has a DAC that can do hardware unfolding of MQA content (such as a Mytek), does one need anything more than the TIDAL desktop application to get "full MQA?" Also, should one opt to use Roon as a "front-end" for TIDAL, will MQA content remain intact through Roon? 1) Tidal premium to receive full MQA. 2) Yes Im enjoying Todal, Roon and my HHD via Ma Mini to the utmost! Just my 2cents Nick. I always believed theta the shortest route is a straight line and in electronics the the less in the path (the more direct route) is essentially similar to plug and play. I suggest using TIDAL as is...period. If you don't like it TIDAL's performance in anyway...catalog, MQA then you can interject another pathway such as ROON. I am not familiar with ROON or JRiver and how they or one of them would enhance TIDAL...does either give one value which btw means additional fees per month. I do think that is a consideration in making a decision. If ROON or JRiver is a one time fee I think that could be worth the monies depending on what you are looking for in those programs relating to TIDAL but it it just a repeat of what TIDAL already offers. I would appreciate NICK if you could elaborate on the advantages of having ROON or JRiver incorporated with TIDAL as opossed to not having it. Thanks Nick & good luck with your final decision BOOM! blue |
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Post by novisnick on Oct 26, 2018 4:59:45 GMT -5
1) Tidal premium to receive full MQA. 2) Yes Im enjoying Todal, Roon and my HHD via Ma Mini to the utmost! Just my 2cents Nick. I always believed theta the shortest route is a straight line and in electronics the the less in the path (the more direct route) is essentially similar to plug and play. I suggest using TIDAL as is...period. If you don't like it TIDAL's performance in anyway...catalog, MQA then you can interject another pathway such as ROON. I am not familiar with ROON or JRiver and how they or one of them would enhance TIDAL...does either give one value which btw means additional fees per month. I do think that is a consideration in making a decision. If ROON or JRiver is a one time fee I think that could be worth the monies depending on what you are looking for in those programs relating to TIDAL but it it just a repeat of what TIDAL already offers. I would appreciate NICK if you could elaborate on the advantages of having ROON or JRiver incorporated with TIDAL as opossed to not having it. Thanks Nick & good luck with your final decision BOOM! blue Hello my friend, I’m going to have to mark this for now as the facts reflect that the shortest distance to the best souneding music is Not a straight line! Ah! If it were so easy. Its late and have started a full length reply/explanation of why one shouldn’t directly connect a PC to a DAC. 🤮 Ill work on it this weekend. Please PM me if I forget to post, hey we forget stuff! LOL |
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 26, 2018 5:55:11 GMT -5
...have started a full length reply/explanation of why one shouldn’t directly connect a PC to a DAC... I'm waiting for this with bated breath! Thanks, Nick - I value your opinion. |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 26, 2018 7:01:15 GMT -5
A benefit of using Tidal integrated into Roon is that if you also have files on a hard drive, when you do searches, Roon searches both your HD and Tidal at the same time. If there are alternate versions of an album (such as an old CD mastering, a newer CD mastering, and an MQA option) - you can see them all and decide which to play. If you like one over the other, you can have that one be the one that plays each time you want to play that album. Also, with Roon, if you are listening to something, it does a great job of suggesting similar music and I've found that has expanded my listening to artists I'd not heard of. This is particularly good if a friend says "hey, try this artist" and I don't have it but Tidal does. Suddenly, I am listening to a new artist someone suggested AND getting Roon's suggestions for similar music that I often like if I like what the friend reco'd.
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Post by audiobill on Oct 26, 2018 10:27:13 GMT -5
As Bluemeanies notes, get the Airserver app that will allow you to control your pc from your ipad.
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