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Post by gus4emo on Dec 9, 2018 10:18:15 GMT -5
Not the nuclear type, not the sandwich, lol..seriously, I discovered this by accident, as most discoveries are found, lol...so I use an Outlaw EX 12 inch for music, then for movies I switch to an HSU MKII 15 inch for movies, love both for their duties, ok, I have the Outlaw set at maximum output, the HSU set for maximum extension, after listening to music with of course the Outlaw I left it on without knowing, the next night I watched Stargate and of course turned on the HSU, noticed that movie never sounded so good bass wise, after the movie then noticed both subs were on, my take is because they were set differently is what made them work perfectly, before all this I had them both at maximum extension but would cancel each other on most frequencies which is why I set them differently, I guess I never thought to run them at those settings together, but now I will keep running them like that for movies only, the Outlaw is good enough for music, what do guys think? It's a good thing I wanted to share.....
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Post by simpleman68 on Dec 9, 2018 12:07:56 GMT -5
Excellent point and something that always amazes me about sound. The subtle change of just moving a sub a few feet or altering x-over points slightly makes an exponential difference in SQ and SPL.
I've been dying to do the sub crawl in my theater since getting the 2nd sub. I still have the original Seaton Sub HP+ (dual 15" push/pull) and then got a JTR Captivator S2 jtrspeakers.com/captivator-s2.html
At times I've had both running and the bass was a LOT less than when I had just 1 running due to cancelling each other out etc.
I have a little left side nook about 1/3 of the way from the rear wall that is a killer sweet spot for some reason. Going to try putting a sub back there and maybe both by stacking. Will be fun to play with. Scott
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 9, 2018 18:56:17 GMT -5
Excellent point and something that always amazes me about sound. The subtle change of just moving a sub a few feet or altering x-over points slightly makes an exponential difference in SQ and SPL.
I've been dying to do the sub crawl in my theater since getting the 2nd sub. I still have the original Seaton Sub HP+ (dual 15" push/pull) and then got a JTR Captivator S2 jtrspeakers.com/captivator-s2.html
At times I've had both running and the bass was a LOT less than when I had just 1 running due to cancelling each other out etc.
I have a little left side nook about 1/3 of the way from the rear wall that is a killer sweet spot for some reason. Going to try putting a sub back there and maybe both by stacking. Will be fun to play with. Scott
Using the HSU for movies was perfect, but since the discovery I noticed the same deep bass on my body but now the mid bass from the Outlaw is filling the room with powerful mid bass.... |
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Post by emofrmcgy on Dec 9, 2018 20:19:18 GMT -5
Excellent point and something that always amazes me about sound. The subtle change of just moving a sub a few feet or altering x-over points slightly makes an exponential difference in SQ and SPL.
I've been dying to do the sub crawl in my theater since getting the 2nd sub. I still have the original Seaton Sub HP+ (dual 15" push/pull) and then got a JTR Captivator S2 jtrspeakers.com/captivator-s2.html
At times I've had both running and the bass was a LOT less than when I had just 1 running due to cancelling each other out etc.
I have a little left side nook about 1/3 of the way from the rear wall that is a killer sweet spot for some reason. Going to try putting a sub back there and maybe both by stacking. Will be fun to play with. Scott
Using the HSU for movies was perfect, but since the discovery I noticed the same deep bass on my body but now the mid bass from the Outlaw is filling the room with powerful mid bass.... Two words for ya John Wick My horn loaded 18's are just vicious under 50hz but lack the punch for over 50hz. 4 Dayton pa drivers fixed that right up, the snap and punch for gunshots lightening crashes or pretty much anyhting really is on a whole other level. |
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Post by Bonzo on Dec 9, 2018 20:39:59 GMT -5
Using the HSU for movies was perfect, but since the discovery I noticed the same deep bass on my body but now the mid bass from the Outlaw is filling the room with powerful mid bass.... Two words for ya John Wick My horn loaded 18's are just vicious under 50hz but lack the punch for over 50hz. 4 Dayton pa drivers fixed that right up, the snap and punch for gunshots lightening crashes or pretty much anyhting really is on a whole other level. A few more. The Accountant and Dunkirk. I've not heard better gun blasts. Heart stopping. |
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 9, 2018 20:43:15 GMT -5
Using the HSU for movies was perfect, but since the discovery I noticed the same deep bass on my body but now the mid bass from the Outlaw is filling the room with powerful mid bass.... Two words for ya John Wick My horn loaded 18's are just vicious under 50hz but lack the punch for over 50hz. 4 Dayton pa drivers fixed that right up, the snap and punch for gunshots lightening crashes or pretty much anyhting really is on a whole other level. Was never interested in John Wick, will check it out at some point.. |
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Post by mfeust on Dec 10, 2018 13:35:13 GMT -5
Two words for ya John Wick My horn loaded 18's are just vicious under 50hz but lack the punch for over 50hz. 4 Dayton pa drivers fixed that right up, the snap and punch for gunshots lightening crashes or pretty much anyhting really is on a whole other level. A few more. The Accountant and Dunkirk. I've not heard better gun blasts. Heart stopping. One of my favorites for gunfire is Open Range. Mark |
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Post by emofrmcgy on Dec 10, 2018 17:29:17 GMT -5
Two words for ya John Wick My horn loaded 18's are just vicious under 50hz but lack the punch for over 50hz. 4 Dayton pa drivers fixed that right up, the snap and punch for gunshots lightening crashes or pretty much anyhting really is on a whole other level. A few more. The Accountant and Dunkirk. I've not heard better gun blasts. Heart stopping. Fury was pretty snappy too. I ALWAYS forget about Dunkirk. Guess what I’m watching tonight. Lol |
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 10, 2018 21:00:08 GMT -5
Ok guys, I started this to share what I discovered, lol...
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Post by andyman on Dec 10, 2018 21:08:53 GMT -5
Since I purchased the svs pc sub I’ve disconnected my 10 inch b&w , it’s just sitting unused , I wonder if it would make a difference if I hooked it back up ? Hmmmmm
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 10, 2018 21:12:54 GMT -5
Since I purchased the svs pc sub I’ve disconnected my 10 inch b&w , it’s just sitting unused , I wonder if it would make a difference if I hooked it back up ? Hmmmmm Try what I did if you can, you never know.... |
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Post by emofrmcgy on Dec 10, 2018 21:33:17 GMT -5
Ok guys, I started this to share what I discovered, lol... My bad. I thought you’d appreciate some suggestions to enjoy your findings. |
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Subs=Great
Dec 10, 2018 22:05:01 GMT -5
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 10, 2018 22:05:01 GMT -5
Ok guys, I started this to share what I discovered, lol... My bad. I thought you’d appreciate some suggestions to enjoy your findings. And I will, first is to update U571 from DVD to Bluray..... |
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Subs=Great
Dec 10, 2018 22:07:08 GMT -5
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Post by 405x5 on Dec 10, 2018 22:07:08 GMT -5
Not the nuclear type, not the sandwich, lol..seriously, I discovered this by accident, as most discoveries are found, lol...so I use an Outlaw EX 12 inch for music, then for movies I switch to an HSU MKII 15 inch for movies, love both for their duties, ok, I have the Outlaw set at maximum output, the HSU set for maximum extension, after listening to music with of course the Outlaw I left it on without knowing, the next night I watched Stargate and of course turned on the HSU, noticed that movie never sounded so good bass wise, after the movie then noticed both subs were on, my take is because they were set differently is what made them work perfectly, before all this I had them both at maximum extension but would cancel each other on most frequencies which is why I set them differently, I guess I never thought to run them at those settings together, but now I will keep running them like that for movies only, the Outlaw is good enough for music, what do guys think? It's a good thing I wanted to share..... Hard to believe, the HSU, well integrated wouldn’t be killer for music as well. Experiment more with it if you can, (HSU technical support can also be very helpful) Bill |
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Post by simpleman68 on Dec 10, 2018 22:20:07 GMT -5
Ok guys, I started this to share what I discovered, lol...  |
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Subs=Great
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 10, 2018 22:26:55 GMT -5
Not the nuclear type, not the sandwich, lol..seriously, I discovered this by accident, as most discoveries are found, lol...so I use an Outlaw EX 12 inch for music, then for movies I switch to an HSU MKII 15 inch for movies, love both for their duties, ok, I have the Outlaw set at maximum output, the HSU set for maximum extension, after listening to music with of course the Outlaw I left it on without knowing, the next night I watched Stargate and of course turned on the HSU, noticed that movie never sounded so good bass wise, after the movie then noticed both subs were on, my take is because they were set differently is what made them work perfectly, before all this I had them both at maximum extension but would cancel each other on most frequencies which is why I set them differently, I guess I never thought to run them at those settings together, but now I will keep running them like that for movies only, the Outlaw is good enough for music, what do guys think? It's a good thing I wanted to share..... Hard to believe, the HSU, well integrated wouldn’t be killer for music as well. Experiment more with it if you can, (HSU technical support can also be very helpful) Bill The HSU on its own is a killer for movies set to maximum extension, great mid bass as well, great for music, I wanted to stay away from setting it up for maximum output for music, then go back and forth, the Outlaw is no slouch for both, just that the HSU reaches quite deeper, but then my discovery happened, I have seen Stargate a few times but never heard the bass like I did that night... |
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 10, 2018 22:47:44 GMT -5
Hard to believe, the HSU, well integrated wouldn’t be killer for music as well. Experiment more with it if you can, (HSU technical support can also be very helpful) Bill The HSU on its own is a killer for movies set to maximum extension, great mid bass as well, great for music, I wanted to stay away from setting it up for maximum output for music, then go back and forth, the Outlaw is no slouch for both, just that the HSU reaches quite deeper, but then my discovery happened, I have seen Stargate a few times but never heard the bass like I did that night... The combination of those two subs created a bridge to another acoustic dimension is what happened. Fitting as to the movie you were watching, too.  |
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Post by MusicHead on Dec 10, 2018 23:55:44 GMT -5
The HSU on its own is a killer for movies set to maximum extension, great mid bass as well, great for music, I wanted to stay away from setting it up for maximum output for music, then go back and forth, the Outlaw is no slouch for both, just that the HSU reaches quite deeper, but then my discovery happened, I have seen Stargate a few times but never heard the bass like I did that night... The combination of those two subs created a bridge to another acoustic dimension is what happened. Fitting as to the movie you were watching, too. Me think the magnets of those subs are made of naquadah... I would not be surprised if the Outlaw was designed by Dr. Sam Carter. |
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Post by musicfan on Dec 11, 2018 8:28:15 GMT -5
Some of the best gunshots in a new movie
Mission impossible fallout
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