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Post by agent8 on Dec 28, 2018 12:43:08 GMT -5
Hello,
I am building a small ht/music room that is approx 16x26x8. My goal is to do a 7.2.4 system and it will probably be 80 movies and 20 music. I bought some referbed E1s a while back just to give them a shot and I was completely blown away by their performance. I've been researching speakers for almost 2 years now and the T1 or T2s keep coming up so I think that's what I'm going to do along with another set of E1s and a C2 Center.
So my question is if I should go with the T1 or the T2s with the room I'm putting these in and for mostly movies. I built a full Marty subwoofer which is a huge 18 in sub that's tuned to 17hz. I usually push 700 to 900 watts in to it along with another smaller 15 inch sub and it's literally cracking my drywall joints in my family room so I think my low end is sufficiently covered.
I am also wondering how often Emotiva has sales. The end of the year incentive with the gift card is great but I won't be able to use the speakers for quite a while so I would hate to buy them and have issues past their return window.
Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Post by geebo on Dec 28, 2018 12:51:25 GMT -5
Hello, I am building a small ht/music room that is approx 16x26x8. My goal is to do a 7.2.4 system and it will probably be 80 movies and 20 music. I bought some referbed E1s a while back just to give them a shot and I was completely blown away by their performance. I've been researching speakers for almost 2 years now and the T1 or T2s keep coming up so I think that's what I'm going to do along with another set of E1s and a C2 Center. So my question is if I should go with the T1 or the T2s with the room I'm putting these in and for mostly movies. I built a full Marty subwoofer which is a huge 18 in sub that's tuned to 17hz. I usually push 700 to 900 watts in to it along with another smaller 15 inch sub and it's literally cracking my drywall joints in my family room so I think my low end is sufficiently covered. I am also wondering how often Emotiva has sales. The end of the year incentive with the gift card is great but I won't be able to use the speakers for quite a while so I would hate to buy them and have issues past their return window. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sales are few and far between these days. I would think the T1s would be fine for you and that big sub. |
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Post by tchaik on Dec 28, 2018 13:18:03 GMT -5
Hello, I am building a small ht/music room that is approx 16x26x8. My goal is to do a 7.2.4 system and it will probably be 80 movies and 20 music. I bought some referbed E1s a while back just to give them a shot and I was completely blown away by their performance. I've been researching speakers for almost 2 years now and the T1 or T2s keep coming up so I think that's what I'm going to do along with another set of E1s and a C2 Center. So my question is if I should go with the T1 or the T2s with the room I'm putting these in and for mostly movies. I built a full Marty subwoofer which is a huge 18 in sub that's tuned to 17hz. I usually push 700 to 900 watts in to it along with another smaller 15 inch sub and it's literally cracking my drywall joints in my family room so I think my low end is sufficiently covered. I am also wondering how often Emotiva has sales. The end of the year incentive with the gift card is great but I won't be able to use the speakers for quite a while so I would hate to buy them and have issues past their return window. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sales are few and far between these days. I would think the T1s would be fine for you and that big sub. if money is not an issue, I would go with the T2's. as a full range speaker both dan and lonnie felt that the T2 was substantially better than the T1's. especially with length of your room...... (they told me that at the last Axpona conference in April.) now considering your media choices though, the T1's should do all you need it to do. there....... I acheived the middle of the road with my answer.  |
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Post by agent8 on Dec 28, 2018 13:34:14 GMT -5
LOL. Well after the first responce, I thought I made up my mind now I'm back to square one. Hmmmmm....
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Post by garbulky on Dec 28, 2018 14:06:12 GMT -5
I haven't heard the T1s. But listen the T2's are not that big. I'm sure the T1's are capable. But even with a nice sub, get capable towers for home theater. The T2's should fit the bill. However if you are looking for super high SPL, I don't know if they have that horsepower because we never tested that though it certainly got loud. All I can say is that you won't regret choosing the t2's over the t1s.
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Post by mountain on Dec 28, 2018 14:21:14 GMT -5
For that size room, I would go for the larger T2’s, even with the very bottom end covered.
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Post by agent8 on Dec 28, 2018 14:44:48 GMT -5
T2S it is! Thanks for the quick responses. Stinks that I will have to buy them now and leave them stored for so long but a good deal is a good deal.
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Post by eng123 on Feb 9, 2019 5:31:15 GMT -5
Just to follow up on this thread. We have a well treated room for mixing and mastering, with some mastering grade passive monitors, subs, and power amps. We are looking for a relatively inexpensive full range speaker/monitor that could be used w/o a sub to check mixes on something audiophiles/consumers would listen on. So the preference is for something passive, but still relatively neutral w.r.t sound. The room is not large by home theater standards at 17' long 13' wide and 8' (low) ceiling. I have done the acoustical measurements on the room, time aligned the subs and the mains, and the acoustics at the sweet/listening spot ( 6' equilateral triangle) are quite good. But w/o much larger treatments (which there is not space for), there are inevitably bass anomalies in the room below 100 Hz. So we use room EQ to help with that. My experience is that smaller drivers are generally faster (better at transients, e.g. reproducing percussion and drums), and a lower crossover point between the midrange and tweeter can be preferable. So I am wondering if the T1's might be preferable to the T2's on both these counts. It looks like the T1 and T2 have the same midrange and tweeter apart from the difference of a 6" and 8" woofer. So while I expect the crossover between the bass and midrange drivers to be different for the T1 and T2, I am not sure why the crossover point was raised from 2700 Hz to 3200 Hz between the midrange and the tweeter in the T2 (compared to the T1). It could just be that those changes in crossover points are still well within the range of the respective drivers, it's just that in the T2, it means the larger/slower drivers are reproducing a bit more of the audio spectrum. Finally we try not to mix/master at anything louder than 80-85 dB. Given that it was mentioned above that the T2's are better at full range monitoring (even though the published specs for the frequency range are the same for the T1 and T2), I'm wondering if anyone can elaborate further on the pros/cons of listening with the T1's or T2's in terms of clarity or bass balance (as in not too much bass with the T2's). Thanks in advance for any info.
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Post by adaboy on Feb 9, 2019 6:41:32 GMT -5
Just to follow up on this thread. We have a well treated room for mixing and mastering, with some mastering grade passive monitors, subs, and power amps. We are looking for a relatively inexpensive full range speaker/monitor that could be used w/o a sub to check mixes on something audiophiles/consumers would listen on. So the preference is for something passive, but still relatively neutral w.r.t sound. The room is not large by home theater standards at 17' long 13' wide and 8' (low) ceiling. I have done the acoustical measurements on the room, time aligned the subs and the mains, and the acoustics at the sweet/listening spot ( 6' equilateral triangle) are quite good. But w/o much larger treatments (which there is not space for), there are inevitably bass anomalies in the room below 100 Hz. So we use room EQ to help with that. My experience is that smaller drivers are generally faster (better at transients, e.g. reproducing percussion and drums), and a lower crossover point between the midrange and tweeter can be preferable. So I am wondering if the T1's might be preferable to the T2's on both these counts. It looks like the T1 and T2 have the same midrange and tweeter apart from the difference of a 6" and 8" woofer. So while I expect the crossover between the bass and midrange drivers to be different for the T1 and T2, I am not sure why the crossover point was raised from 2700 Hz to 3200 Hz between the midrange and the tweeter in the T2 (compared to the T1). It could just be that those changes in crossover points are still well within the range of the respective drivers, it's just that in the T2, it means the larger/slower drivers are reproducing a bit more of the audio spectrum. Finally we try not to mix/master at anything louder than 80-85 dB. Given that it was mentioned above that the T2's are better at full range monitoring (even though the published specs for the frequency range are the same for the T1 and T2), I'm wondering if anyone can elaborate further on the pros/cons of listening with the T1's or T2's in terms of clarity or bass balance (as in not too much bass with the T2's). Thanks in advance for any info. What about the t-zeros? I think they would be a good fit size wise and look way better. |
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Post by eng123 on Feb 9, 2019 16:36:00 GMT -5
Thanks for that suggestion - had not seen the T0's. We'd prefer to have the extended bass and more of a 3-way system via the T1 or T2 design.
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Post by garbulky on Feb 12, 2019 12:10:10 GMT -5
Just to follow up on this thread. We have a well treated room for mixing and mastering, with some mastering grade passive monitors, subs, and power amps. We are looking for a relatively inexpensive full range speaker/monitor that could be used w/o a sub to check mixes on something audiophiles/consumers would listen on. So the preference is for something passive, but still relatively neutral w.r.t sound. The room is not large by home theater standards at 17' long 13' wide and 8' (low) ceiling. I have done the acoustical measurements on the room, time aligned the subs and the mains, and the acoustics at the sweet/listening spot ( 6' equilateral triangle) are quite good. But w/o much larger treatments (which there is not space for), there are inevitably bass anomalies in the room below 100 Hz. So we use room EQ to help with that. My experience is that smaller drivers are generally faster (better at transients, e.g. reproducing percussion and drums), and a lower crossover point between the midrange and tweeter can be preferable. So I am wondering if the T1's might be preferable to the T2's on both these counts. It looks like the T1 and T2 have the same midrange and tweeter apart from the difference of a 6" and 8" woofer. So while I expect the crossover between the bass and midrange drivers to be different for the T1 and T2, I am not sure why the crossover point was raised from 2700 Hz to 3200 Hz between the midrange and the tweeter in the T2 (compared to the T1). It could just be that those changes in crossover points are still well within the range of the respective drivers, it's just that in the T2, it means the larger/slower drivers are reproducing a bit more of the audio spectrum. Finally we try not to mix/master at anything louder than 80-85 dB. Given that it was mentioned above that the T2's are better at full range monitoring (even though the published specs for the frequency range are the same for the T1 and T2), I'm wondering if anyone can elaborate further on the pros/cons of listening with the T1's or T2's in terms of clarity or bass balance (as in not too much bass with the T2's). Thanks in advance for any info. The T twos are not slow in the least |
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Post by KeithL on Feb 12, 2019 12:30:26 GMT -5
Having heard them side by side - I would say that the T1 and T2 sound very similar - and much more similar than different. While no two speaker designs sound identical, and there are very tiny differences in the midrange, I'm not sure I could quantify what they actually amount to. (Maybe the midrange on the T2 is a tiny bit smoother - but it's really close.)
The biggest audible difference is that the T2 goes a bit lower - which makes it a much better choice if you plan to use it without a sub. It's also a tiny bit more efficient.
I would also point out that the T2 is substantially bigger than the T1. The difference is only a few inches in each dimension but, when taken together, the T2 is a lot more imposing than the T1 when you see them side by side in a room.
(The T2 is also much more difficult to tip over and, if you plan to position your speakers near furniture, the extra few inches means that the T2 tweeter is less likely to be partially blocked by a chair or sofa.)
If you want a big imposing speaker - then the T2 would be my clear choice. Likewise, if you want a smaller speaker, and one that won't "dominate the room", then you should consider the T1 or the T0. (The cover of the Airmotiv Speaker Manual shows the T1 and the T2 in scale.)
Just to follow up on this thread. We have a well treated room for mixing and mastering, with some mastering grade passive monitors, subs, and power amps. We are looking for a relatively inexpensive full range speaker/monitor that could be used w/o a sub to check mixes on something audiophiles/consumers would listen on. So the preference is for something passive, but still relatively neutral w.r.t sound. The room is not large by home theater standards at 17' long 13' wide and 8' (low) ceiling. I have done the acoustical measurements on the room, time aligned the subs and the mains, and the acoustics at the sweet/listening spot ( 6' equilateral triangle) are quite good. But w/o much larger treatments (which there is not space for), there are inevitably bass anomalies in the room below 100 Hz. So we use room EQ to help with that. My experience is that smaller drivers are generally faster (better at transients, e.g. reproducing percussion and drums), and a lower crossover point between the midrange and tweeter can be preferable. So I am wondering if the T1's might be preferable to the T2's on both these counts. It looks like the T1 and T2 have the same midrange and tweeter apart from the difference of a 6" and 8" woofer. So while I expect the crossover between the bass and midrange drivers to be different for the T1 and T2, I am not sure why the crossover point was raised from 2700 Hz to 3200 Hz between the midrange and the tweeter in the T2 (compared to the T1). It could just be that those changes in crossover points are still well within the range of the respective drivers, it's just that in the T2, it means the larger/slower drivers are reproducing a bit more of the audio spectrum. Finally we try not to mix/master at anything louder than 80-85 dB. Given that it was mentioned above that the T2's are better at full range monitoring (even though the published specs for the frequency range are the same for the T1 and T2), I'm wondering if anyone can elaborate further on the pros/cons of listening with the T1's or T2's in terms of clarity or bass balance (as in not too much bass with the T2's). Thanks in advance for any info. The T twos are not slow in the least |
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Post by garbulky on Feb 12, 2019 12:43:28 GMT -5
Perhaps it's relative but to me the T2 felt rather small compared to the other towers I've used. I was afraid it would look big and bulky but it was just smalll.
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Post by vcautokid on Feb 12, 2019 13:13:36 GMT -5
Another vote for the T2. You may get curious how the front may do on their own. The T2 will make you smile more. The T2 is that speaker you say, "yeah got them." Where as you get the T1 speakers which are excellent too. There is that bit of wondering what if? Of course all wins here. Nice decision to make.
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