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Post by leonski on Jan 3, 2019 15:33:54 GMT -5
A PAIR of 3kw power supplies and 1300watts x 2 of amp power?
Just the thing for a 15 amp circuit shared with a TV, Pre-Pro, another 5 or 6 channels of amp and a PAIR of subs.
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Post by Hair Nick on Jan 3, 2019 15:34:55 GMT -5
A PAIR of 3kw power supplies and 1300watts x 2 of amp power? Just the thing for a 15 amp circuit shared with a TV, Pre-Pro, another 5 or 6 channels of amp and a PAIR of subs. 300 watt...not 1300 watt. |
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Post by Hair Nick on Jan 3, 2019 15:37:40 GMT -5
Here is a concept shot with them not paired to help out since I don't have photos beyond what was shown with them paired. The HC-1 will sell as a single 300 watt monoblock with its own 3kW power supply.  |
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Post by leonski on Jan 3, 2019 16:03:58 GMT -5
Sorry, Nick,
You must have mis-typed. Your yesterday 'noon' post said 1300 watt PS.....
Now? is the amp 300 watts? AND a 300 watt PS? That doesnt' compute, either........
Just trying to get the numbers straight before I go order a Quad of 'em for my panels AND call an electrician to drop another 20 amp line.
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 3, 2019 16:09:28 GMT -5
For me their even bigger advantage is their “half width” which would help in locating them close by their respective speaker. +1. Like for me if I wanted to make more room inside my rack, they might squeeze between the rack and speaker, or go outside the speaker. It's a nice option.  |
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Post by garbulky on Jan 3, 2019 16:11:27 GMT -5
Here is a concept shot with them not paired to help out since I don't have photos beyond what was shown with them paired. The HC-1 will sell as a single 300 watt monoblock with its own 3kW power supply. Is it fully balanced? |
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Post by Hair Nick on Jan 3, 2019 16:12:25 GMT -5
Sorry, Nick, You must have mis-typed. Your yesterday 'noon' post said 1300 watt PS..... Now? is the amp 300 watts? AND a 300 watt PS? That doesnt' compute, either........ Just trying to get the numbers straight before I go order a Quad of 'em for my panels AND call an electrician to drop another 20 amp line. I said a 1 300 watt module and a 1 3kW power supply in each chassis. You missed the space between the 1 and the 3 when reading it. |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 3, 2019 16:16:51 GMT -5
Sorry, Nick, You must have mis-typed. Your yesterday 'noon' post said 1300 watt PS..... Now? is the amp 300 watts? AND a 300 watt PS? That doesnt' compute, either........ Just trying to get the numbers straight before I go order a Quad of 'em for my panels AND call an electrician to drop another 20 amp line. I said 1 300 watt module. 1 3kW power supply. You missed the space between the 1 and the 3 when reading it. I have the same problem at work. Hence why I would now type it as (1) 300 watt module. and (1) 3kw power supply, if I were discussing this amp. I like the idea by the way. Nice thinking outside the box here. Thumbs up Emotiva.  |
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Post by Hair Nick on Jan 3, 2019 16:18:31 GMT -5
I said 1 300 watt module. 1 3kW power supply. You missed the space between the 1 and the 3 when reading it. I have the same problem at work. Hence why I would now type it as (1) 300 watt module. and (1) 3kw power supply, if I were discussing this amp. I like the idea by the way. Nice thinking outside the box here. Thumbs up Emotiva. Haha the funny part is I had a moment where I looked at this and thought just maybe I should do that. I will update the first post that way. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 3, 2019 16:22:09 GMT -5
I said 1 300 watt module. 1 3kW power supply. You missed the space between the 1 and the 3 when reading it. I have the same problem at work. Hence why I would now type it as (1) 300 watt module. and (1) 3kw power supply, if I were discussing this amp. To avoid the same problem my convention is 1 x 300 watt.  It's about time that they have a replacement for the XPA-1L's.  Cheers Gary |
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Post by teaman on Jan 3, 2019 17:52:02 GMT -5
……...any idea of pricing of these new XPA series mono amps?
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 3, 2019 17:59:32 GMT -5
Since this basically represents an XPA-2 Gen 3 split in half, or yeah, similar to the XPA-1L, I think the next logical question is, could they do a DR-1 the same way? Would it fit inside? The new Gen 3 amps are so much lighter and contain so much less "stuff" inside, they represent a lot of empty air. Just wondering out loud.
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Post by teaman on Jan 3, 2019 19:01:45 GMT -5
Since this basically represents an XPA-2 Gen 3 split in half, or yeah, similar to the XPA-1L, I think the next logical question is, could they do a DR-1 the same way? Would it fit inside? The new Gen 3 amps are so much lighter and contain so much less "stuff" inside, they represent a lot of empty air. Just wondering out loud. I suggested that as soon as Emotiva decided to go with modular amps. It really accomplishes nothing with a huge empty chassis. My suggestion was to follow the Marantz MA-500/700 idea and go with mini chassis. Saves them money to produce too. I think the only way this HC-1 becomes popular is if it comes in under the half price mark of the XPA-2. Outside of that people would just suffice by building an XPA series amp to their liking. $400 would be an ideal mark to come in at but I don't see any chance of that happening. Time will tell |
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Post by Jim on Jan 3, 2019 19:51:35 GMT -5
Separate 3kW power supplies for each Amp. That’s it? Haha. That’s fantastic! Interesting having a PS with 10x the capability of the amplifier. I guess that’s the joy of SMPS? |
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Post by leonski on Jan 3, 2019 20:12:58 GMT -5
I have the same problem at work. Hence why I would now type it as (1) 300 watt module. and (1) 3kw power supply, if I were discussing this amp. I like the idea by the way. Nice thinking outside the box here. Thumbs up Emotiva. Haha the funny part is I had a moment where I looked at this and thought just maybe I should do that. I will update the first post that way. Another way to write what you intended would be something like ...... 1@300 watt amp module and 1@3kw Power Supply, per module, Each amp contains 1 of each....... And 10:1? power of PS to power of amp? I'd than ask what is the dynamic headroom of the amp. 10db MINUS various inefficiencies sounds like WAY too high. Even NAD only managed about 6db at some point. Not to forget that a 15 amp circuit is ONLY good for 1.8kw, from which you subtract 20% for continuous duty. Which loops me back to my original comment about ALL THAT STUFF which most will simply plug into a single circuit. I personally wouldn't plug a pair of these amps into ANYthing less than a 20 amp circuit....shared with nothing else but the amps..... And while you're at it? Get a good 12ga power cord. If the amp is issued with 14ga or smaller, it's just wrong. |
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Post by sgracing on Jan 3, 2019 20:35:39 GMT -5
Looking for a new set of mono block amps , so is the HC class A/B or D
How much does it weight and what is it's load capacity.. example I have speakers that go down to 2.3 ohm loads
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Post by teaman on Jan 3, 2019 21:09:28 GMT -5
Looking for a new set of mono block amps , so is the HC class A/B or D How much does it weight and what is it's load capacity.. example I have speakers that go down to 2.3 ohm loads Pretty sure anything XPA will be A/B. The PA-1 is D |
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Post by leonski on Jan 4, 2019 1:14:51 GMT -5
New amp uses a SMPS which takes up less space and is somewhat more efficient than a linear.
Amp also is A/B or you'd have heard it was 'other'. But given low weight? Not a 'high bias' design which requires
lots more heat sink.
I'll reserve final judgement on some of above until I hear the full weight of the amp. Even With a switcher, weight to power ratio is important.
And while what SG calls 'load capacity' is important, the one thing we'll NEVER know (probably) is the amps ability to drive difficult, 'reactive' loads. Like some of B&W 800 series speakers, or some Thiel.
Most HT oriented speakers will be OK, regardless of impedance 'dip'.
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Post by vcautokid on Jan 4, 2019 2:42:01 GMT -5
So it is maybe mono together again. I want to hear it. Wow.
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Post by mgbpuff on Jan 4, 2019 9:41:01 GMT -5
There are more Emotivas that you can't buy than you can.
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