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Post by Bonzo on Jan 4, 2019 13:03:40 GMT -5
There are more Emotivas that you can't buy than you can.   Something is wrong in the world the last few days. You and I are seemingly getting long. What gives? Is the end of the world coming?  |
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Post by brubacca on Jan 4, 2019 13:07:39 GMT -5
The next Emotiva Product I am buying is an Emersa product... There are two products that they showed at CES (a couple years ago) that I'm interested in.
Is this a real product that is about to be released or another one that is waiting to see the reaction?
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Post by mgbpuff on Jan 4, 2019 13:12:22 GMT -5
There are more Emotivas that you can't buy than you can. Something is wrong in the world the last few days. You and I are seemingly getting long. What gives? Is the end of the world coming? Like stags coming out of rut!  |
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 4, 2019 16:20:11 GMT -5
Is this a real product that is about to be released or another one that is waiting to see the reaction? They already have the board and the power supply, so it’s really only the new half width case that is required and judging by the pictures their design is complete, including joining bridges. All they should need is fir the cases to arrive from their manufacturer and then the complete product can be assembled in Franklin. My guess would be weeks not months, but let’s see. Cheers Gary |
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Post by audiosyndrome on Jan 4, 2019 18:37:09 GMT -5
Haha the funny part is I had a moment where I looked at this and thought just maybe I should do that. I will update the first post that way. Another way to write what you intended would be something like ...... 1@300 watt amp module and 1@3kw Power Supply, per module, Each amp contains 1 of each....... And 10:1? power of PS to power of amp? I'd than ask what is the dynamic headroom of the amp. 10db MINUS various inefficiencies sounds like WAY too high. Even NAD only managed about 6db at some point. Not to forget that a 15 amp circuit is ONLY good for 1.8kw, from which you subtract 20% for continuous duty. Which loops me back to my original comment about ALL THAT STUFF which most will simply plug into a single circuit. I personally wouldn't plug a pair of these amps into ANYthing less than a 20 amp circuit....shared with nothing else but the amps..... And while you're at it? Get a good 12ga power cord. If the amp is issued with 14ga or smaller, it's just wrong. Who has a single circuit? As a minimum two 20 amp circuits is the way to go. 👍 Russ |
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Post by leonski on Jan 4, 2019 19:18:07 GMT -5
Of course I tend to agree, Russ.
A couple circuits, especially one dedicated to higher power gear is a terrific way to go. I do well with the house circuit and ONE dedicated, but were I a HT guy, that requirement would multiply.
But, that being said? You'd be surprised at the static I got suggesting that More Power AVAILABLE is best. Running some amp requiring a 20 amp circuit (suggested in specs) on a 15 amp circuit WITH a bunch of other stuff, a complete waste.
And while you're 'recharging' all the PS Capacitance (only when supplied voltage exceeds capacitor stored voltage) the line voltage can really SAG. Effecting everything else on the line.
And that same amp with a 14 ga power cord? Sorry.
The good news here is that VeryFew users actually make such demands of their amp. Even ME, with 84db sensitive speakers rarely make such demands.
So many MegaWatt amps out there with a fraction of that actually available based on all the 'restrictions' between amp and the power company. Inadequate power cord? Large demand on too few circuits? (or ONE circuit)?? Inadequate house wiring.
And even perhaps a 100 amp service TO the house when at high demand peaks, a 150 would be more like it. I can't remember now....either the XPA-1 or XPR-1 spec'd a 20 amp service, which FEW actually did.
And now that you mention it? How about an Electrical Service poll?
"How many Total Electrical Circuits Feed your Audio / Video System?"
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 4, 2019 19:32:16 GMT -5
In Australia we have 220/240 volts, with each circuit rated at 15 amps and each power outlet on the circuit rated at 10 amps. So I have 240 x 15 = 3.6 kw available on the circuit that has the TT, XSP-1, XPA-5, BDP, ATV4K and cable box. Plus another 3.6 kw circuit with the TV, XPA-100 and 2 x XPA-1L's on it. Plenty of power Cheers Gary |
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Post by ttocs on Apr 21, 2019 9:36:05 GMT -5
Hair Nick, any news on when these will be available? You were saying at AXPONA that it's just the cases you're waiting on.
Also, I can't recall the price you told me. Was it $699??
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Post by ttocs on Apr 23, 2019 16:24:19 GMT -5
Also, which XPA amp type is this based on, XPA-Gen3 or XPA-DR?
nevermind. just re-read the first post. but my other questions still apply.
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Post by rbk123 on Jul 3, 2019 17:07:59 GMT -5
Bump - it's now available on the website. Surprised to see no discussion on them.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 3, 2019 19:05:13 GMT -5
Bump - it's now available on the website. Surprised to see no discussion on them. Here’s the link: emotiva.com/collections/x-series/products/hc-1Does anyone remember the Kenwood L-07M? I sold quite a few in the late 70’s. It was a monoblock format similar to this, and intended to be positioned near the speaker. They even came with a long interconnect with a screw on RCA, and it was possibly the first amp I ever saw with a trigger cable. They sounded great (even the Absolute Sound liked them) and paired well with Dahlquist DQ-10’s. This HC-1 has a lot of the same features and double the power, looks pretty cool! Here are the Kenwood L-07M’s  They followed up with a MKII in black  |
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Post by jjkessler on Jul 3, 2019 20:37:24 GMT -5
Wish they had an HC-1DR version. Sort of like an XPA-1DR
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Post by Bonzo on Jul 3, 2019 21:39:51 GMT -5
Wish they had an HC-1DR version. Sort of like an XPA-1DR EXACTLY what I have been thinking about this unit. |
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Post by mgbpuff on Jul 4, 2019 7:39:04 GMT -5
Not for me. This is an amp not designed, but thrown together from what is available. A 13KW ps for a 300W amp? Should have put a properly designed linear ps in this. Monoprice is looking better and better to me lately.
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Post by repeetavx on Jul 4, 2019 10:17:53 GMT -5
Not for me. This is an amp not designed, but thrown together from what is available. A 13KW ps for a 300W amp? Should have put a properly designed linear ps in this. Monoprice is looking better and better to me lately. On the other hand, it's the only amp, currently produced by them, that actually doubles the power into half the load. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 11:18:28 GMT -5
Not for me. This is an amp not designed, but thrown together from what is available. A 13KW ps for a 300W amp? Should have put a properly designed linear ps in this. Monoprice is looking better and better to me lately. Totally disagree Use what you have, to get what you need, to get what you want. Undistorted sound. The existing power supply is 1300w, amp is 300w, you now have more potential power than will be used by the amplifier stage- PERFECT. IT'S THE POWER SUPPLY THAT IS THE WEAK LINK IN MANY POWER AMPS. By over kill in supply power, you just eliminated transient voltage, thus clean power to the amp, thus cleaner sound. |
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Post by SteveH on Jul 4, 2019 11:30:00 GMT -5
Not for me. This is an amp not designed, but thrown together from what is available. A 13KW ps for a 300W amp? Should have put a properly designed linear ps in this. Monoprice is looking better and better to me lately. Totally disagree Use what you have, to get what you need, to get what you want. Undistorted sound. The existing power supply is 1300w, amp is 300w, you now have more potential power than will be used by the amplifier stage- PERFECT. IT'S THE POWER SUPPLY THAT IS THE WEAK LINK IN MANY POWER AMPS. By over kill in supply power, you just eliminated transient voltage, thus clean power to the amp, thus cleaner sound. The same power supply is a very smart move by Emotiva, no need to stock different power supplies and it keeps manufacturing/inventory costs down. You can never go wrong with a power supply that to is too big. Too small would be an issue, but too big is not a problem. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 4, 2019 16:20:36 GMT -5
Tough crowd, some want to almost double the price with a DR-1 blade, others want it cheaper with a smaller PS. I want to see someone bolt 13 of them together for a 7.2.6 system.  |
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Post by repeetavx on Jul 4, 2019 16:50:56 GMT -5
I want to see someone bolt 13 of them together for a 7.2.6 system. Ok, now your just making me excited. Or at least the power center for it would. |
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Post by jjkessler on Jul 4, 2019 17:07:50 GMT -5
Well, if I trade my XMC-1 for an RMC-1L, I’m not sure what advantage I am buying if there isn’t a somewhat smaller fully differential amps for surround sound duty (600 watts not needed). I have a number of XPA-1L today and really like them for surround duty and wish there was a similar, smaller fully differential model to make use of the RMC-1L capability
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