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Post by gweedoargus on Jan 21, 2019 0:19:59 GMT -5
Returned 2 erc 3 units after my erc 2 died. Both erc 3 we're loud and skipped constantly. Bought a roksan and no issues. After almost 7 years of owning emotiva, I have come to the conclusion that it is entry level at best in terms of sound quality and worse in reliability. Marantz and NAD are definitely better in reliability and just as good sound wise. Take it for what is worth. I still own a xsp gen 2 but will be moving on. The price is right, but not for long..
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Post by teaman on Jan 21, 2019 1:13:28 GMT -5
Returned 2 erc 3 units after my erc 2 died. Both erc 3 we're loud and skipped constantly. Bought a roksan and no issues. After almost 7 years of owning emotiva, I have come to the conclusion that it is entry level at best in terms of sound quality and worse in reliability. Marantz and NAD are definitely better in reliability and just as good sound wise. Take it for what is worth. I still own a xsp gen 2 but will be moving on. The price is right, but not for long.. Sorry your players didn't turn out very reliable. I own a ton of Sherbourn and Emotiva gear and so far only an ERC-2 needed service. I know I am not alone with finding Emotiva gear reliable but I will add that I no longer look at Emotiva the way I did five years ago. Unfortunately for me I am no longer feeling confident with the direction that Emotiva is taking with many of their products. In the earlier years through my experiences with Emotiva I found a good balance of quality gear at affordable prices. I'm not sure that is still the case, bringing production or assembly back stateside did nothing to improve the products in my eyes, only add burden to the overhead. There are plenty of sub-par offerings from NAD, Marantz, Denon and others as well so I'm not sure how much happier you will be going forward. Just the same, enjoy your journey moving forward and I hope you find what you are looking for in a product. |
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Post by Soup on Jan 22, 2019 7:27:53 GMT -5
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Post by gweedoargus on Jan 22, 2019 18:44:19 GMT -5
I've owned Denon, NAD and Marantz. All were good, but I've decided to take the leap financially and invest in Pass Labs. Just received my XA 25 amp today, replacing an xpa 2 gen 1. Obviously, a different league in price and performance. I've been buying different gear for 25 years all around the same price range. It has been enjoyable, but now I need something more. Just listening to the Pass Labs XA25 driving my BW 804 D3s for 1 hour today was mind blowing. With the xpa 2, there were harsh highs and distortion. I'm selling my xpa 2 gen 1, USP 1 and Xsp 1 Gen 2.
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Post by DavidR on Jan 22, 2019 19:10:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you mean by "loud" but my ERC-3 will skip on some CDs (less than a handful) and always in the same place. One of the CDs I cleaned the 5Hi7 out of the surface and the skip went away. Those few CDs do not skip in my Grant Fidelity vacuum tube CDP.
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Post by gweedoargus on Jan 22, 2019 20:54:29 GMT -5
The motor noise was loud. When there were breaks or quieter moments, the hiss of the CD spinning was prevalent. I had an erc 2 which never skipped and had no motor noise. I bought the erc 3 after it died and all of a sudden many if not all of my CDs were skipping at random times. I would listen to the same CD over and over and the it would skip at different times. Sometime it wouldn't skip at all, but that was rare. Had the same experience with both erc 3 that I received. The second erc 3 was better at the beginning. The motor noise was quieter, but over time as the motor became louder, the more it skipped. My roksan k3 has no issues. Neil Young unplugged skipped randomly on erc 3 and it does not skip once on the Roksan.
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Post by teaman on Jan 22, 2019 20:59:42 GMT -5
I own two ERC-3 and have never had any issues with skipping. There is substantial motor noise though with the one, thankfully I seldom play music lightly enough to hear it. Overall I feel the ERC-3 sounds good as far as musical reproduction but it was not a well thought out machine
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Post by gweedoargus on Jan 22, 2019 21:13:28 GMT -5
I agree the sound quality is good and much better than the erc 2 which was a little bright. Also, when the erc 3 skipped, the motor made alot of noise. Almost a grinding noise. It was unbearable at times.
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Post by DavidR on Jan 22, 2019 22:16:42 GMT -5
I find the motor noise varies with the CDs. I think many CDs are not truly flat and perfectly round. Those CDs are louder. I can only hear the noise if kneeling by the system rack. I never noticed a relation to motor noise and the few CDs that have skipped.
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Post by badsarge on Jan 25, 2019 22:42:14 GMT -5
I find the motor noise varies with the CDs. I think many CDs are not truly flat and perfectly round. Those CDs are louder. I can only hear the noise if kneeling by the system rack. I never noticed a relation to motor noise and the few CDs that have skipped. I concur, after burning approx 600 CDs to my new BlueSound Vault 2i, I must express my amusement concerning the variations in burn time, drive noise and CD recognition. During the ripping process, I heard several distinct spinning/whirring/vibrating noises. High pitched, grumbling and somewhat confused clunking noises were produced at unpredictable intervals. As of yet, there were only 3 CDs catalogued as UNKNOWN. I opted to review one of my initial CD purchases, Howard Jones "Dream into Action" circa 1985 (Don't judge me  )After 34 years, Metadata has been preserved,sound quality is ahem, STELLAR if not "current". I'll admit, I quickly shuffled to some Gary Clark Jr, Gov't Mule and Pink Floyd. Across the spectrum and decades, in a near field environment, utilizing a pair of Audio Engine A2+ speakers, I can detect no discernible loss of sound quality concerning the ONEs and ZEROEs, some recording studios created superior products, many artists were recorded at amazingly different Db levels, but the plastic spinning discs are NOT created equal. Should there be an accepted/regulated standard? Do the variances in disc weight/roundness impact drive life? Should I feel guilty for reveling in such first world problems??  |
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Post by mfeust on Jan 26, 2019 11:20:46 GMT -5
Returned 2 erc 3 units after my erc 2 died. Both erc 3 we're loud and skipped constantly. Bought a roksan and no issues. After almost 7 years of owning emotiva, I have come to the conclusion that it is entry level at best in terms of sound quality and worse in reliability. Marantz and NAD are definitely better in reliability and just as good sound wise. Take it for what is worth. I still own a xsp gen 2 but will be moving on. The price is right, but not for long.. First sorry for your experiences with your ERC 3. There is a classic bumper sticker that says Schitt Happens. Some people don't even need one and some people need one on both the front bumper and the rear bumper.  |
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Post by dboozerjr on Feb 24, 2021 13:33:27 GMT -5
I too had a noisy and sometimes skipping erc 3. I bought a used unit and some disc were terrible and some not so bad. Now the terrible ones are barely audible and ok disc are silent. I have alot of exp. Building pcs and working on electronics so i took mine apart and notice some a few of the 4 screws holding the plastic frame of the transport were tightened all the way so the springs underneath were not able to do their job. Long story short my erc 3 is now quiet and sounds amazing. Thought i would share this because it bothered me for a month or so before i opened it up to check things out. Hopefully it will help others.
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Post by 405x5 on Feb 24, 2021 14:54:49 GMT -5
Thread’s TWO YEARS.....and two months old.
MAYBE 🤔.....by now they fixed it
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Post by teaman on Feb 24, 2021 16:15:50 GMT -5
Thread’s TWO YEARS.....and two months old. MAYBE 🤔.....by now they fixed it Seeing that Emotiva is now on the ERC-4, I'm guessing a few things have changed |
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Post by miata57 on Feb 24, 2021 18:52:55 GMT -5
I think their quality control is weak. I have had issues with 3 of their CD players and the T1 speakers
Moving forward, I am now looking elsewhere
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)After 34 years, Metadata has been preserved,sound quality is ahem, STELLAR if not "current". I'll admit, I quickly shuffled to some Gary Clark Jr, Gov't Mule and Pink Floyd. 
