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Post by Loop 7 on Apr 5, 2019 16:24:33 GMT -5
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Post by garbulky on Apr 5, 2019 17:37:15 GMT -5
The Aegir has got 10 watts of class A. It has a new topology which "is as good" according to them past 10 watts. But I've heard that before.
I remember that Emotiva's XPA-1 L amp did 35 watts class A @ 8 ohms and 250 watts of power past that at that price.
In fact in Schiit's faq they say : "Why would I pay more for a lower-power amp (compared to Vidar)? Sigh. You saw through our cunning plot! Just buy a Vidar. Or Emotiva."
Lol. Nice looking amp though. Glad to see class A get some love. Too bad it's only 20 watts, not that you can't go places with 20 watts. I've gone places with 5 watts of power and it sounded fantastic. However my beef is that this is not a true monoblock. It's a bridged stereo amp. It's not optimised for 4 ohm loads as a monoblock .
Having said that: they keep trying to get around the fact that this is not a class A amp. It like a class AB amp with a high bias class A. The difference is that they say their "ab" stage is "continuity" and it sounds "as good" as class A. In their previous literature of class A they claimed that you can't call yourself class A unless the entire amp only does class A and that anything else is faking. I'm not that strict. However at 10 watts class A bias, that's not a huge amount of class A power for an amp though it is substantial. The original XPA-1 gen 1 had 10 watts class A power I believe and even they didn't claim it was class A. The XPA-2 gen 2 had 60 watts of class A which was pretty impressive and here Emotiva did claim that it was class A with a transition to class AB past 60 watts.
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Post by Loop 7 on Apr 5, 2019 17:55:49 GMT -5
garbulky - yeah, not much power but those of us with very efficient speakers may benefit. Wondering if the Aegir will be a successful product for them.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 5, 2019 20:00:54 GMT -5
garbulky - yeah, not much power but those of us with very efficient speakers may benefit. Wondering if the Aegir will be a successful product for them. Honestly, no. It's such a niche product. The price is also an issue running at $1600 for a pair of monoblocks. I think also the conundrum that Schiit's flagship monoblocks are significantly less powerful than their cheaper option may vbe confusing. Having said that.....I would LOVE to hear it. I'm not worried about the lack of power at all. It realyl doesn't take much power for most speakers. I love the size of the amp, the "purity" type design. Large 600VA amp, large cxapacitance, fully balanced monoblock. If it sounds as good as it looks, then it might be quite nice.
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Post by Loop 7 on Apr 5, 2019 21:42:12 GMT -5
Personally, if a low power amp is suitable for me, I'm going with a tube amp and not solid state.
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Post by Boomzilla on Apr 6, 2019 4:31:38 GMT -5
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Post by brubacca on Apr 6, 2019 7:01:52 GMT -5
I like Jason's decision tree:
1- Do I have the money to easily buy this product? As in, you’re not giving up food/shelter/transportation/travel/etc in order to purchase it, you’re not going to put it on a card and pay it off over time, you’re not going to use one of those fancy ‘get it now and pay it off later’ services with a silly Web 3.0 name, and you’re not going to plead with your SO to buy it for you. If the answer is no, stop right here. You’re done. Come on. Be real. 2- Am I lacking something this product will do? If you already have an amp, you’re already listening to speakers. Is the amp that bad? Does it really need to be upgraded? Really? Seriously? Again, if the answer is no, it’s probably time to move on.
3- Am I really unhappy with my system? No, really. If you’re content, why look at other products? What if the new product doesn’t work so well with your system? Now you’ve spent money and time and not gotten any better result. Be careful. Maybe it’s best not to change anything. Another no? Maybe best not to poke the bear.
I feel like there are many purchases that happen that this logic can apply too.
Personally I'd really like to try an Aegir, but its not in the cards right now. 20W is plenty for efficient speakers played to reasonable levels.
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Post by sparky14 on May 26, 2022 19:33:23 GMT -5
I just got an Aegir today. I hear it takes about 500 hours to burn in.
Right out of the box, it is spectacular. Had it in my office rig, driving a high pass signal to my Polk Reserve R200s with a 80hz low pass to a powered sub. Really had to turn the sub down, there was plenty from the R200 alone. Not enough power to drive those speakers in a large room, but in a small office it is plenty.
Going to try it in my living room tonight with some Tekton Mini Lore Monitors.
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