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Post by mick on Apr 16, 2019 10:10:51 GMT -5
XMC-2 announcement: The existing upgrade Atmos board to the XMC-1 that was previously announced isn't happening. Having two separate OS paths with the different chips were going to be far too expensive and time consuming for the engineering team. Instead, we will offer an upgrade path to a brand new XMC-2 unit with a trade in program. For any person who owns an XMC-1 with the V3 board, you can upgrade to a brand new XMC-2 for $650. If you have an XMC-1 without the V3 board, it will be $1,050 to upgrade. Basically getting a brand new unit for the price of what the Atmos board upgrade was going to be. We will have an official announcement hitting the site soon but wanted to give you the heads up first. So any possibility of an upgrade path to an RMC-1L for something like $1,650 plus XMC-1 with V3 board? I like your thinking geebo, i think the RMC-1L's will be very popular, more so than the RMC-1 |
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Post by ÈlTwo on Apr 16, 2019 10:37:23 GMT -5
XMC-2 announcement: The existing upgrade Atmos board to the XMC-1 that was previously announced isn't happening. Having two separate OS paths with the different chips were going to be far too expensive and time consuming for the engineering team. Instead, we will offer an upgrade path to a brand new XMC-2 unit with a trade in program. For any person who owns an XMC-1 with the V3 board, you can upgrade to a brand new XMC-2 for $650. If you have an XMC-1 without the V3 board, it will be $1,050 to upgrade. Basically getting a brand new unit for the price of what the Atmos board upgrade was going to be. We will have an official announcement hitting the site soon but wanted to give you the heads up first. So any possibility of an upgrade path to an RMC-1L for something like $1,650 plus XMC-1 with V3 board? Interesting idea. What are the full specs and differences (other than fully differential) of the two models? Nick?  |
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Post by klinemj on Apr 16, 2019 10:43:10 GMT -5
I really love the Emotiva Home Theater demo setup. The arrays in the ceiling are quite cool, and using a C1 for Front Height and the T1's and T0's at the sides...wow.
If I were building a new home, I'd build a room ready for that system!
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Post by klinemj on Apr 16, 2019 10:48:34 GMT -5
So any possibility of an upgrade path to an RMC-1L for something like $1,650 plus XMC-1 with V3 board? Interesting idea. What are the full specs and differences (other than fully differential) of the two models? Nick? I don't know about spec differences, but things that appear evident from the photos and other info shared...the XMC-2 has a single information screen on the front panel vs. RMC-1/1L having 2. And, XMC-2 appears to have a standard knob on the front/right side vs. the funky multifunction "rotate/bend up-down-left-right/push" knob of the RMC-1/1L (I am actually not a fan of the type of knob on the RMC-1/1L...I find them harder to use). Other than that and the limited fully differential on the XMC-2, I don't know of other differences in parts/specs. Mark |
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Post by doc1963 on Apr 16, 2019 11:09:50 GMT -5
XMC-2 announcement: The existing upgrade Atmos board to the XMC-1 that was previously announced isn't happening. Having two separate OS paths with the different chips were going to be far too expensive and time consuming for the engineering team. Instead, we will offer an upgrade path to a brand new XMC-2 unit with a trade in program. For any person who owns an XMC-1 with the V3 board, you can upgrade to a brand new XMC-2 for $650. If you have an XMC-1 without the V3 board, it will be $1,050 to upgrade. Basically getting a brand new unit for the price of what the Atmos board upgrade was going to be. We will have an official announcement hitting the site soon but wanted to give you the heads up first. So any possibility of an upgrade path to an RMC-1L for something like $1,650 plus XMC-1 with V3 board? I like this..!!! This would be my preferred upgrade path if they choose to entertain the idea. |
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Post by mick on Apr 16, 2019 11:21:13 GMT -5
Interesting idea. What are the full specs and differences (other than fully differential) of the two models? Nick? I don't know about spec differences, but things that appear evident from the photos and other info shared...the XMC-2 has a single information screen on the front panel vs. RMC-1/1L having 2. And, XMC-2 appears to have a standard knob on the front/right side vs. the funky multifunction "rotate/bend up-down-left-right/push" knob of the RMC-1/1L (I am actually not a fan of the type of knob on the RMC-1/1L...I find them harder to use). Other than that and the limited fully differential on the XMC-2, I don't know of other differences in parts/specs. Mark From the video, the RMC-1 and RMC-1L are identical except for the added modular's on the RMC-1 which can go up to 28 channels, for me i think 16 channel on the RMC-1L is more than enough. good price as well $4k What month is summer in the USA? |
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Post by tchaik on Apr 16, 2019 11:40:21 GMT -5
I don't know about spec differences, but things that appear evident from the photos and other info shared...the XMC-2 has a single information screen on the front panel vs. RMC-1/1L having 2. And, XMC-2 appears to have a standard knob on the front/right side vs. the funky multifunction "rotate/bend up-down-left-right/push" knob of the RMC-1/1L (I am actually not a fan of the type of knob on the RMC-1/1L...I find them harder to use). Other than that and the limited fully differential on the XMC-2, I don't know of other differences in parts/specs. Mark From the video, the RMC-1 and RMC-1L are identical except for the added modular's on the RMC-1 which can go up to 28 channels, for me i think 16 channel on the RMC-1L is more than enough. good price as well $4k What month is summer in the USA? June 21 to sept 21 is summer. |
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Post by klinemj on Apr 16, 2019 12:38:42 GMT -5
I don't know about spec differences, but things that appear evident from the photos and other info shared...the XMC-2 has a single information screen on the front panel vs. RMC-1/1L having 2. And, XMC-2 appears to have a standard knob on the front/right side vs. the funky multifunction "rotate/bend up-down-left-right/push" knob of the RMC-1/1L (I am actually not a fan of the type of knob on the RMC-1/1L...I find them harder to use). Other than that and the limited fully differential on the XMC-2, I don't know of other differences in parts/specs. Mark From the video, the RMC-1 and RMC-1L are identical except for the added modular's on the RMC-1 which can go up to 28 channels, for me i think 16 channel on the RMC-1L is more than enough. good price as well $4k What month is summer in the USA? One other thing with the RMC-1 vs 1L...it's the add-on modules that enable the RMC-1 to add extra channels. But, if one doesn't want the added channels, the expansion bays can be used for other things...like the thin client streamer, a phono module, etc. I was glad to hear the thin client streamer mentioned. Sounds like they still plan that. I hope they also plan a stand-alone unit it its own little box as they have talked in the past. So, the ability to expand for channels + more is unique to the RMC-1. Mark |
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Post by tchaik on Apr 16, 2019 13:02:32 GMT -5
From the video, the RMC-1 and RMC-1L are identical except for the added modular's on the RMC-1 which can go up to 28 channels, for me i think 16 channel on the RMC-1L is more than enough. good price as well $4k What month is summer in the USA? One other thing with the RMC-1 vs 1L...it's the add-on modules that enable the RMC-1 to add extra channels. But, if one doesn't want the added channels, the expansion bays can be used for other things...like the thin client streamer, a phono module, etc. I was glad to hear the thin client streamer mentioned. Sounds like they still plan that. I hope they also plan a stand-alone unit it its own little box as they have talked in the past. So, the ability to expand for channels + more is unique to the RMC-1. Mark what if your not a thin client like me? |
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Post by cwt on Apr 16, 2019 13:30:34 GMT -5
Interesting idea. What are the full specs and differences (other than fully differential) of the two models? Nick? The interesting thing gleaned from Dans video was the comment the design topology and circuit technology was the same between the XMC2 and RMC1/L . If that's precise that would include things like ASRC dejitter clocking and a high quality volume control for the signal path . Apart from maybe lesser adc/dacs and restricted dual diff channels the common architecture from the basic interchangeable design bodes well for the XMC2 .. Those are the things scaled back not the signal path design  Its a harder choice now the XMC2 is 9.1.6 also and not many punters run all dual differential power amps ; but the important LCR/SUB are well chosen  |
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Post by creimes on Apr 16, 2019 13:50:18 GMT -5
My good buddy here who has the XMC-1 2.0 HDMI is ready to upgrade, he got very excited when I told him the news  |
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Post by donh50 on Apr 16, 2019 14:12:29 GMT -5
It'd be nice if the website had a good comparison table showing similarities and differences among the various processors. I'm sooo confused and it's hard to wade through umpty-ump pages to figure it out. I need to look at the XMC-2/RMC-1L trade -- but would not trade until the bugs are out of the new units, or at least until they are reasonably functional and stable. I still have to toggle inputs several times a week to get sound and power cycle my XMC-1 about every other week roughly a year after installing the v3 board. Hoping the new components, designed from the ground up, won't have these sort of issues. Also hoping for the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, and the Big Rock Candy Mountain. The HC-1 is interesting; my new speakers are a much harder load than my old Maggies and I've considered a monoblock or seven on the floor behind them. Would run XLRs all around and ditch the long speaker cables. Maybe... Maybe just the front three since all my 20A outlets are along the front wall. Does not matter how much you think about when building, always forget something... |
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Post by davidl81 on Apr 16, 2019 15:23:32 GMT -5
It'd be nice if the website had a good comparison table showing similarities and differences among the various processors. I'm sooo confused and it's hard to wade through umpty-ump pages to figure it out. I need to look at the XMC-2/RMC-1L trade -- but would not trade until the bugs are out of the new units, or at least until they are reasonably functional and stable. I still have to toggle inputs several times a week to get sound and power cycle my XMC-1 about every other week roughly a year after installing the v3 board. Hoping the new components, designed from the ground up, won't have these sort of issues. Also hoping for the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, and the Big Rock Candy Mountain. The HC-1 is interesting; my new speakers are a much harder load than my old Maggies and I've considered a monoblock or seven on the floor behind them. Would run XLRs all around and ditch the long speaker cables. Maybe... Maybe just the front three since all my 20A outlets are along the front wall. Does not matter how much you think about when building, always forget something... I would think it will be a few months at least till the RMC-1L and the XMC-2 are available for sale. At that point I'm sure we will have more information as far as the exact differences between the three units. Last week we all though the XMC-2 was going to be a 7.1.4 unit, so things change fairly quickly until the units go into full production. |
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Post by tchaik on Apr 16, 2019 15:37:04 GMT -5
even thought the fundamental internal architecture is the same between the XMC-2 and the RMC-1L, and even though the XMC-1 does not have 12 out of 16 channels fully differential, and even though I don't have the set up on the surrounds to even take advantage of the other 12 channels being fully differential, and even though lonnie said I probably would never hear the difference if my surrounds were hooked up to an amp that was fully differential......... I still plan on buying the RMC-1L. why you ask? I absolutely love the looks of the RMC-1L and the fact that the front panel has 2 oled screens and the back RCA hardware is of the quality of the XSP-1. therefore I am just stupid enough to pay an xtra $1000 for nothing more than cosmetics and overall cache.......
yup.... that's me..........
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Post by davidl81 on Apr 16, 2019 15:45:44 GMT -5
even thought the fundamental internal architecture is the same between the XMC-2 and the RMC-1L, and even though the XMC-1 does not have 12 out of 16 channels fully differential, and even though I don't have the set up on the surrounds to even take advantage of the other 12 channels being fully differential, and even though lonnie said I probably would never hear the difference if my surrounds were hooked up to an amp that was fully differential......... I still plan on buying the RMC-1L. why you ask? I absolutely love the looks of the RMC-1L and the fact that the front panel has 2 oled screens and the back RCA hardware is of the quality of the XSP-1. therefore I am just stupid enough to pay an xtra $1000 for nothing more than cosmetics and overall cache....... yup.... that's me.......... tchaik........... Even worse is myself who is actually think of just getting the RMC-1 (w/ my 40% off card) because the case is the exact same height and width as my XPA amps, so all three boxes would be the same size on the bottom of my media cabinet. I have major issues.  |
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Post by LCSeminole on Apr 16, 2019 17:28:28 GMT -5
even thought the fundamental internal architecture is the same between the XMC-2 and the RMC-1L, and even though the XMC-1 does not have 12 out of 16 channels fully differential, and even though I don't have the set up on the surrounds to even take advantage of the other 12 channels being fully differential, and even though lonnie said I probably would never hear the difference if my surrounds were hooked up to an amp that was fully differential......... I still plan on buying the RMC-1L. why you ask? I absolutely love the looks of the RMC-1L and the fact that the front panel has 2 oled screens and the back RCA hardware is of the quality of the XSP-1. therefore I am just stupid enough to pay an xtra $1000 for nothing more than cosmetics and overall cache....... yup.... that's me.......... tchaik........... I'm right there with you. If I end up with an RMC-1L, I won't offer up any excuses/reasons as to why. I'll just refer everyone to your post! |
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Post by tchaik on Apr 16, 2019 18:57:41 GMT -5
even thought the fundamental internal architecture is the same between the XMC-2 and the RMC-1L, and even though the XMC-1 does not have 12 out of 16 channels fully differential, and even though I don't have the set up on the surrounds to even take advantage of the other 12 channels being fully differential, and even though lonnie said I probably would never hear the difference if my surrounds were hooked up to an amp that was fully differential......... I still plan on buying the RMC-1L. why you ask? I absolutely love the looks of the RMC-1L and the fact that the front panel has 2 oled screens and the back RCA hardware is of the quality of the XSP-1. therefore I am just stupid enough to pay an xtra $1000 for nothing more than cosmetics and overall cache....... yup.... that's me.......... tchaik........... I'm right there with you. If I end up with an RMC-1L, I won't offer up any excuses/reasons as to why. I'll just refer everyone to your post! my buddy chip calls it a sickness....... |
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Post by ttocs on Apr 16, 2019 19:11:05 GMT -5
I'm right there with you. If I end up with an RMC-1L, I won't offer up any excuses/reasons as to why. I'll just refer everyone to your post! my buddy chip calls it a sickness....... Right about now I've got a low fever, and sometime in the next few months - hopefully that soon - it'll get much worse when some just-announced products are available for purchase. |
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Post by creimes on Apr 16, 2019 20:22:12 GMT -5
my buddy chip calls it a sickness....... Right about now I've got a low fever, and sometime in the next few months - hopefully that soon - it'll get much worse when some just-announced products are available for purchase.  |
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Post by cwt on Apr 17, 2019 1:07:23 GMT -5
even thought the fundamental internal architecture is the same between the XMC-2 and the RMC-1L, and even though the XMC-1 does not have 12 out of 16 channels fully differential, and even though I don't have the set up on the surrounds to even take advantage of the other 12 channels being fully differential, and even though lonnie said I probably would never hear the difference if my surrounds were hooked up to an amp that was fully differential......... I still plan on buying the RMC-1L. why you ask? I absolutely love the looks of the RMC-1L and the fact that the front panel has 2 oled screens and the back RCA hardware is of the quality of the XSP-1. therefore I am just stupid enough to pay an xtra $1000 for nothing more than cosmetics and overall cache....... Looks like the dual oled panels appeals to many ; understandable when the alternative is tiny little box icons like the rest out there And even with some comments about the volume control its bigger than the XMC2 one which lends gravitas ; hopefully with some nice friction about it ..Its symmetrical look does look the part too. You know what hit me and is intriguing about all this is the XMR1 AVR has supposedly been in development for a year or more yet not a mention anywhere. I hope it hasn't been shelved as class D is made for multiple channels imho  |
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