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Post by foggy1956 on May 5, 2019 15:52:20 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I ripped all my DVDs a few years ago, and I think it was a waste of time. Each disk took a fair amount of time, they take up a LOT of space, and I almost never use the ripped versions. I've found it's a lot easier just to put all the discs into binders and look for the one I want. I have 4 large binders - DVD music/concerts, BluRay and 4K music/concerts, DVD movies, and BluRay/4K movies. Totally disagree, all my movies are ripped to a NAS and viewed through jriver without ever having to get off the couch. |
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Post by doc1963 on May 5, 2019 15:59:59 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I ripped all my DVDs a few years ago, and I think it was a waste of time. Each disk took a fair amount of time, they take up a LOT of space, and I almost never use the ripped versions. I've found it's a lot easier just to put all the discs into binders and look for the one I want. I have 4 large binders - DVD music/concerts, BluRay and 4K music/concerts, DVD movies, and BluRay/4K movies. That is true... I can rip a Blu-ray disc in about 20 minutes and the resulting file is about 27-30 gigs depending upon the length of the movie. Luckily, I have 24 terabytes of NAS storage and can easily add more “if” I ever need to (which is doubtful). For this reason alone, I highly recommend redeeming those digital copy codes and using a content streaming provider of your choice to view them. It’s still your movie, you still own the original, but no work to do and no massive amount storage or hardware is required on your end in order to view them. And yes, you can always do what you do, but that’s not always convenient for someone (like me) who lives in a 3 story townhome, never knows what he wants to watch and, when once decided, realizes that the binders are 3 floors down...  |
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Post by klinemj on May 5, 2019 16:16:56 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I ripped all my DVDs a few years ago, and I think it was a waste of time. Each disk took a fair amount of time, they take up a LOT of space, and I almost never use the ripped versions. I've found it's a lot easier just to put all the discs into binders and look for the one I want. I have 4 large binders - DVD music/concerts, BluRay and 4K music/concerts, DVD movies, and BluRay/4K movies. That is true... I can rip a Blu-ray disc in about 20 minutes and the resulting file is about 27-30 gigs depending upon the length of the movie. Luckily, I have 24 terabytes of NAS storage and can easily add more “if” I ever need to (which is doubtful). For this reason alone, I highly recommend redeeming those digital copy codes and using a content streaming provider of your choice to view them. It’s still your movie, you still own the original, but no work to do and no massive amount storage or hardware is required on your end in order to view them. And yes, you can always do what you do, but that’s not always convenient for someone (like me) who lives in a 3 story townhome, never knows what he wants to watch and, when once decided, realizes that the binders are 3 floors down... The 3 stories is part of my issue. The other is the same issue I was having with CD's that led me to rip them...I have a wife, son, and daughter who take them from where they are and move them somewhere else. And nobody knows where they left it...3rd floor, 2nd floor near the TV or in one of the bedrooms, or 1st floor where the theater is. I've found that when this happens, I punt and watch something else. Mark |
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Post by Bonzo on May 5, 2019 17:37:04 GMT -5
That is true... I can rip a Blu-ray disc in about 20 minutes and the resulting file is about 27-30 gigs depending upon the length of the movie. Luckily, I have 24 terabytes of NAS storage and can easily add more “if” I ever need to (which is doubtful). For this reason alone, I highly recommend redeeming those digital copy codes and using a content streaming provider of your choice to view them. It’s still your movie, you still own the original, but no work to do and no massive amount storage or hardware is required on your end in order to view them. And yes, you can always do what you do, but that’s not always convenient for someone (like me) who lives in a 3 story townhome, never knows what he wants to watch and, when once decided, realizes that the binders are 3 floors down... The 3 stories is part of my issue. The other is the same issue I was having with CD's that led me to rip them...I have a wife, son, and daughter who take them from where they are and move them somewhere else. And nobody knows where they left it...3rd floor, 2nd floor near the TV or in one of the bedrooms, or 1st floor where the theater is. I've found that when this happens, I punt and watch something else. Mark So that smokin' hot daughter of yours has faults after all. 😉😁😋 I've book marked this thread as I'm interested how to do all this. Will need a new computer this coming year (no more windows 7 support - F U C K E R S), so I might want to make sure what ever I get can do a lot, and be able to add a ton of memory. I'm NOT a computer geek, so its all a bit Greek to me. Maybe someday.... |
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Post by klinemj on May 5, 2019 19:07:52 GMT -5
The 3 stories is part of my issue. The other is the same issue I was having with CD's that led me to rip them...I have a wife, son, and daughter who take them from where they are and move them somewhere else. And nobody knows where they left it...3rd floor, 2nd floor near the TV or in one of the bedrooms, or 1st floor where the theater is. I've found that when this happens, I punt and watch something else. Mark So that smokin' hot daughter of yours has faults after all. 😉😁😋 I've book marked this thread as I'm interested how to do all this. Will need a new computer this coming year (no more windows 7 support - F U C K E R S), so I might want to make sure what ever I get can do a lot, and be able to add a ton of memory. I'm NOT a computer geek, so its all a bit Greek to me. Maybe someday.... When it's time for a new computer, the good folks at Microcenter can either provide a really nice one or steer you to the parts to build one. It's pretty easy...plug and play! Mark |
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Post by tom9933 on May 5, 2019 19:19:07 GMT -5
Microcenter do you live in Ohio??? I'm north of Dayton... When it's time for a new computer, the good folks at Microcenter can either provide a really nice one or steer you to the parts to build one. It's pretty easy...plug and play! Mark |
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Post by brubacca on May 5, 2019 19:32:59 GMT -5
MicroCenter has several locations. There is one outside of Philadelphia in St. Davids PA.
Hey, I went to The University of Dayton, but haven't been back in the area since reunion weekend 1998!
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Post by LuisV on May 5, 2019 19:57:50 GMT -5
You pretty much lost me on a lot of that! FYI, from what I have read, one + of Plex is that it automatically figures out what format to use for each device you play back to. I might be wrong, but that's what I am wanting. Mark There’s many lower cost NAS appliances that cannot support Plex Server due to CPU limitations and, of those that can, many more that are not powerful enough to support the “on the fly” transcoding required for client devices that cannot decode the Blu-ray native encoding. In those cases, transcoding the original rip using an application like Handbrake is required. The transcoded files are then stored on your NAS. Hope that helps...  Exactly why I built my own NAS; my previous 4 bay Synology just wasn't up to the task. In regards to Plex transcoded streams, make sure the client is set to original format video wise, if the client can't deal with the audio within the stream, the Plex server will transcode the audio for that client. You want the client to be able to "Direct Play" the stream as transcoding is performed by the server and depending on what is hosting the Plex server, it can be the bottle neck. If you have extra funds and your NAS can handle a video card, look into the Nvidia Quadro as this GPU will be able to transcode more streams than most users will need and the CPU will hum along and when needed, transcode the audio. |
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Post by klinemj on May 5, 2019 20:02:49 GMT -5
Microcenter do you live in Ohio??? I'm north of Dayton... When it's time for a new computer, the good folks at Microcenter can either provide a really nice one or steer you to the parts to build one. It's pretty easy...plug and play! Mark Yep - I'm about 30 minutes from the Sharonville store. I live due south of Oxford along the Ohio/Indiana border. Bonzo also is not far from the store. Mark |
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Post by klinemj on May 5, 2019 21:35:03 GMT -5
Also, the PC I am thinking of using as my Plex server is one I built from MicroCenter parts as a gaming PC for my son. I think it will suffice...need to check its specs, but it's the hot rod in the house.
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Post by LuisV on May 5, 2019 21:59:01 GMT -5
Plex's rough rule of thumb is a passmark score of 2,000 per stream; file size, compression, file type, etc. can affect actual performance though. Typical gaming GPUs, will provide up to two hardware transcodes; however the Quadro will provide significantly more. www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.phpHere's a good video on the Quadro vs dual Xeons |
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Post by LuisV on May 5, 2019 22:14:15 GMT -5
Forgot to mention; if you haven't heard of Tauttulli, you might want to look into it as it helps monitor Plex. tautulli.com/ |
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Post by Bonzo on May 5, 2019 22:22:32 GMT -5
Microcenter do you live in Ohio??? I'm north of Dayton... Yep - I'm about 30 minutes from the Sharonville store. I live due south of Oxford along the Ohio/Indiana border. Bonzo also is not far from the store. Mark Yep. Was just there Wednesday. About 10 minutes from where I work. |
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Post by geebo on May 6, 2019 6:42:26 GMT -5
I'm looking to get into putting my DVD's and BluRays onto a NAS then streaming them instead of using the disks. Step #1 is getting a drive that will rip them. I'd prefer an external drive as I'm likely to be changing my computers in the house within a year and don't want to put one internal at this point. Any reco's? I was looking at the ASUS BW-16D1X-U. Thoughts on that one or others? Mark I use and like this one. www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Computer/Computer+Drives/BDR-XD05S |
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Post by mgbpuff on May 6, 2019 6:56:41 GMT -5
Except for digital copy, it's all illegal. I put a lot of time into ripping DVDs a few years ago. It took ungodly amounts of my time but I was pleased with the results. However the constant copying destroyed the computer I was using and the separate hard drives that I used were formatted in Linux and don't work with anything except a unique (at the time) Linux controller which doesn't work anymore. I can watch some of the movies on an old Linux based HDMedia player I bought, but only one out of four separate discs work anymore. Therefore I have vowed to never again attempt storage of movies. Now I use Vudu and all my Digital Copy discs are available to watch from just about any source anywhere. This is the way to go!
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Post by klinemj on May 6, 2019 8:37:29 GMT -5
Plex's rough rule of thumb is a passmark score of 2,000 per stream; file size, compression, file type, etc. can affect actual performance though. Typical gaming GPUs, will provide up to two hardware transcodes; however the Quadro will provide significantly more. www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.phpHere's a good video on the Quadro vs dual Xeons So, I watched the first few minutes of the video and while I understood in concept what the guy was saying - basically, I was having to translate a version of nerd I don't fully understand to my version of nerd. With the guy talking faster than I could translate, I didn't understand much. But, I did take away a few things. I was planning to use the PC I built for my son (older i5 chip, 3.4GHz processor w/8 GB of RAM, and an overclocked nvidia GeForce GTC video card and Windows 10). Then, I started seeing the parts about how long the processor might right and the potential wear-out of parts, and got thinking...is this why guys just use the nVidia Shield? I notice you use an nVidia Shield with Plex. That seems like an elegant option given it's got all I need to run Plex, and can also be used as the Plex server - if I am understanding it correctly. If I understand correctly, I could get an nVidia Shield 4K HDR version for about $190 and set it up as a plex server. I could rip my disk collection to an external drive and plug it into the nVidia directly and have the nVidia pull directly from that drive. I could output via HDMI to any of my TV's or my XMC-1 (still on 1.4 HDMI so no 4K). And, via my Plex account, I could also run Plex on (for example) one of my Roku Ultra's and play the videos to other TVs not directly attached to the nVidia. There would be a limit on how many Plex viewers could be using that aspect of the system at one time, but I'm OK with that...it's rare we're all wanting to watch one of our disks at the same time in different locations. Did I get that all correct? If so, that seems like the best way for me to go at this point. Mark |
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Post by LuisV on May 6, 2019 9:35:17 GMT -5
I tried using the Shield as a Plex Server, but it didn't meet my needs, so I run Plex as a docker on my DIY NAS (AMD 1800x, 32GB RAM, 30TB Storage). I too originally felt a single stream would be enough, but then quickly found out that as a family we needed more. For instance, since Plex was my method of streaming OTA content as well as DVR functions, we quickly found out that the Shield wasn't enough as a Plex server. Who was recording one show and watching another? It's a great device, but it has limitations. I can't comment on the Shield's storage capabilities as a Plex server as I used the Shield for a week, before migrating Plex to a Docker. Folks run Plex server on a Pi and are more than happy with the results, I had a different use case and needed something more powerful. You can certainly try the Shield to see if it suits your need, just realize that as you use Plex, you'll start thinking of others ways to take advanate of it and the Shield might run out of HP.
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Post by klinemj on May 6, 2019 15:28:21 GMT -5
I tried using the Shield as a Plex Server, but it didn't meet my needs, so I run Plex as a docker on my DIY NAS (AMD 1800x, 32GB RAM, 30TB Storage). I too originally felt a single stream would be enough, but then quickly found out that as a family we needed more. For instance, since Plex was my method of streaming OTA content as well as DVR functions, we quickly found out that the Shield wasn't enough as a Plex server. Who was recording one show and watching another? It's a great device, but it has limitations. I can't comment on the Shield's storage capabilities as a Plex server as I used the Shield for a week, before migrating Plex to a Docker. Folks run Plex server on a Pi and are more than happy with the results, I had a different use case and needed something more powerful. You can certainly try the Shield to see if it suits your need, just realize that as you use Plex, you'll start thinking of others ways to take advanate of it and the Shield might run out of HP. Sorry for the edit... I hit enter too quickly. Thanks - so the only limitation for you was the # of streams? If so, I don't think that will be an issue for us. I have Roku's on every TV in the house, and we use those for most things. I like those because they are not costly and do the job well for basic TV (including things like Netflix and Hulu). And, having the same interface at all TV's is a bonus (esp. for my wife and kids). Our DVR function is via Hulu, so that would be independent of the Shield. If I get the shield, I'd put it Shield down in my theater where the audio pass through would be put to good use when I do watch my physical disks today (which would be on an external drive plugged into the shield). And, each Roku player could access the Plex server via the Plex app on the Roku's. I found a site saying the current shield can do at most 2-3 simultaneous transcodings. At most times now, there are only 3 of us here (son in college), so 2 streams off the digitized DVD/BluRay library at a time would be fine for us (given everything else is through the Roku's). The only drawback I can see to this is that if things remain the same as they are with Emotiva's Atmos/4K situation (streaming is a challenge), the approach of digitizing my media would be an issue. I don't have to worry about that yet (XMC-1 still HDMI 1.4 and no ATMOS). I will eventually switch the theater to 4K and likely Atmos. Hopefully Emotiva gets it sorted out. If not and I really want 4K/Atmos, I may have to look elsewhere for a pre/pro. Am I under-thinking anything? IF not, I'll get an nvidia Shield on order. Mark |
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Post by LuisV on May 6, 2019 19:32:48 GMT -5
You and I think alike... keeping things simple with the same UI for family makes our lives so much easier.
Just an FYI, your son will be able to stream from your Plex server via his phone, laptop, etc. When my daughter was away at school, all I got her was internet access and an Nvidia shield; she was off campus. She also streamed everything as well as content via Plex. She loved the fact that she could download Plex content to her phone and watch while traveling. I so the same; sync content when I travel; sure beats the crappy TVs on planes.
But why would digitizing your media be an issue with the XMC-1? Leave all audio formats in place and let Plex transcode the audio if / when necessary. All of my content is 1080 with all audio formats in place. Besides Atmos and DTS:X, the XMC-1 has been able to play all audio formats from the Shield / Plex combo. At my summer home, I have a Sonos playbar and Shield connected to an LG OLED and so far, I'm not missing 4k content via Plex and it transcodes the audio for me on the fly as the playbar is basically stereo.
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Post by klinemj on May 6, 2019 20:17:54 GMT -5
You and I think alike... keeping things simple with the same UI for family makes our lives so much easier. Just an FYI, your son will be able to stream from your Plex server via his phone, laptop, etc. When my daughter was away at school, all I got her was internet access and an Nvidia shield; she was off campus. She also streamed everything as well as content via Plex. She loved the fact that she could download Plex content to her phone and watch while traveling. I so the same; sync content when I travel; sure beats the crappy TVs on planes. But why would digitizing your media be an issue with the XMC-1? Leave all audio formats in place and let Plex transcode the audio if / when necessary. All of my content is 1080 with all audio formats in place. Besides Atmos and DTS:X, the XMC-1 has been able to play all audio formats from the Shield / Plex combo. At my summer home, I have a Sonos playbar and Shield connected to an LG OLED and so far, I'm not missing 4k content via Plex and it transcodes the audio for me on the fly as the playbar is basically stereo. I'm not expecting that digitizing my media and streaming it to my XMC-1 (with the original HDMI board) will be an issue. I was thinking that if I upgrade to the XMC-2/RMC-1L/RMC-1 that I might get issues...seems like that's the last remaining issue with the RMC-1 and the XMC-1 w/the new HDMI board...still some dropouts and odd noises here and there, mainly with streaming. I do hope they solve that...not just for me but for everyone wrestling with it. Mark |
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