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Post by dsonyay on May 11, 2019 11:52:51 GMT -5
My next project...
This thing is simply amazing. I had an album I'd given up on...and now it sounds literally brand new. Not a speck of dirt left after a short cleaning.
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Post by dsonyay on May 11, 2019 11:53:44 GMT -5
I have no association with Vinyl Stacker company. Or the ultrasonic cleaner
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Post by routlaw on May 11, 2019 16:13:48 GMT -5
They have been around for quite awhile in various stages. Over the last few years there has also been a long ongoing thread on the VPI forums regarding record cleaning especially with the Ultra sonic technique. Apparently its the best method going as I understand it. This kit is considerably cheaper albeit a bit of DIY, than the uber expensive models available online that cost upwards of $4K.
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Post by dsonyay on May 11, 2019 18:16:41 GMT -5
My friend out here spent 550 total for the US cleaner and the Vinyl Stacker unit.. but he could have made his own apparatus for far less. I was really floored by how perfect an old album could come out. I mean, I could not listen to it it was so noisy.. and I had given up cleaning it. I probably spin cleaned it 10 times, soaked it in water, hand scrubbed it.. nothing would help til an ultrasound cleaning.
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Post by Loop 7 on May 11, 2019 19:26:45 GMT -5
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Post by 405x5 on May 11, 2019 20:52:46 GMT -5
Do they make a Digital Download cleaner?
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Post by 405x5 on May 11, 2019 21:05:41 GMT -5
If they do they could call it the:
Oxyclean Oxymoron
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Post by Loop 7 on May 12, 2019 17:09:32 GMT -5
dsonyay --- apologies for potentially railroading this thread but I had some thoughts. Vinyl is interesting and unique because the product received by the consumer is essentially dirty and requires effort for the best sound. On the other hand, it seems like many pressing plants are making tremendous strides toward producing cleaner records and improving overall pressing techniques. These advancements coupled with innovations in record cleaning, turntables, tonearms, carts and phono amps has me believing vinyl sales will only grow indefinitely. CDs may have a revival at some point but I doubt like LPs.
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Post by routlaw on May 12, 2019 17:15:32 GMT -5
This is very true, most of the records being made today are on an order magnitude superior to the ones produced in the "golden era" of vinyl. The mastering and recording are better, pressings and on and on. However one of the nasties of vinyl is static electricity and that alone will cause dust and debris to enter into the grooves thus the need to clean even brand new albums. It not only cleans but at least temporarily eliminates the static charge for a period of time. Its not for everyone and I'll be the first to admit it can by a royal PITA to deal with vinyl.
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Post by dsonyay on May 12, 2019 17:29:50 GMT -5
Yes.. the static charge is the worst.
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Post by dsonyay on May 12, 2019 17:34:12 GMT -5
dsonyay --- apologies for potentially railroading this thread but I had some thoughts. Vinyl is interesting and unique because the product received by the consumer is essentially dirty and requires effort for the best sound. On the other hand, it seems like many pressing plants are making tremendous strides toward producing cleaner records and improving overall pressing techniques. These advancements coupled with innovations in record cleaning, turntables, tonearms, carts and phono amps has me believing vinyl sales will only grow indefinitely. CDs may have a revival at some point but I doubt like LPs. Yeah.. you know what, I bet CDs come back again.. theres gonna be people thinking back to the days of how clean sounding cds were and miss having that same physical connection the LP crowd has. LoL. I dont mind CDs at all .. I only wish they'd pack the CD into the same 12in sleeve as the vinyl. Hahahaha |
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Post by dsonyay on May 12, 2019 17:42:04 GMT -5
I never liked the packaging of CDs.. tje literature was too small.. it was nice having all the extra space to store them, but it was terrible to look through the liner notes
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 12, 2019 17:48:25 GMT -5
My next project... This thing is simply amazing. I had an album I'd given up on...and now it sounds literally brand new. Not a speck of dirt left after a short cleaning. So does this video show the unit they are selling for about $260? (sans the water pool) |
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Post by dsonyay on May 12, 2019 19:07:12 GMT -5
Yes.. ultrasonic cleaner can be had for about 100 on up. The unit Vinyl stacker sells is about 260. But there are sites on YouTube that have DIY projects to make your own LP holder and rotator. Very easy
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Post by Loop 7 on May 12, 2019 19:17:12 GMT -5
That's a lot less money than the $4,500 ultrasonic recommended by Stereophile.
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Post by Loop 7 on May 12, 2019 19:44:45 GMT -5
I can't decide if this is junk science or valid...
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Post by routlaw on May 12, 2019 19:45:17 GMT -5
Worse still from what I understand from reputable sources these uber expensive US cleaners break down fairly often, and do not perform as well as the home made kits.
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Post by dsonyay on May 12, 2019 19:54:32 GMT -5
I can't decide if this is junk science or valid... Definitely not JS.. Ive had a few cleaned by my friend's set up and am stunned. I've never experienced this level of clean . We're talking cleaner than brand new. The homemade rigs are just as good. If a tank craps out after a year or two.. buy another. |
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Post by dsonyay on May 12, 2019 19:55:07 GMT -5
Worse still from what I understand from reputable sources these uber expensive US cleaners break down fairly often, and do not perform as well as the home made kits. Yes.. this is why the DIY crowd is so happy |
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Post by Loop 7 on May 12, 2019 20:20:03 GMT -5
dsonyay I should have clarified. I'm 100% on board with ultrasonic but was questioning this guy's application of the surfactant to test for residuals. I do like how he is outspoken regarding the prices of the commercial units. I believe his very well designed unit is $870 (versus $4,500).
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