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Post by Mountainbiking Fool on May 29, 2019 13:34:00 GMT -5
So one of my projects this summer is to build my acoustic panels. I have noticed a lot of the tutorials on line the panels are 24" X 48". Any reason why I can't make them 16" X 48"?
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Post by davidl81 on May 29, 2019 14:15:37 GMT -5
So one of my projects this summer is to build my acoustic panels. I have noticed a lot of the tutorials on line the panels are 24" X 48". Any reason why I can't make them 16" X 48"? I would think it would be a matter of them being a little less effective since you would be reducing the total surface area by 33%. They would still be a lot better than nothing though. |
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Post by creimes on May 29, 2019 16:21:04 GMT -5
You can make them any size you like, you can cut Roxul SafeNsound with a knife to make your panels whatever size you like.
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Post by DYohn on May 29, 2019 18:53:13 GMT -5
It's because 24 X 48 is a standard size for rigid foam insulation. If you hsve the means to cut it down there's no reason why you can'd do that. But beware it can be pretty nasty stuff when you cut it.
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Post by creimes on May 29, 2019 20:21:50 GMT -5
It's because 24 X 48 is a standard size for rigid foam insulation. If you hsve the means to cut it down there's no reason why you can'd do that. But beware it can be pretty nasty stuff when you cut it. SafeNsound is much easier, a serrated blade is all you need, the panels you see in my photo are all 31.5 x 49 inches, I use 1 x 4 mdf and have 2 Roxul SafeNSound inuslation batts per panel The ceiling ones hang down 2" from the ceiling and the wall panels have blocks that keep them from the wall about an inch or so.  |
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Post by Mountainbiking Fool on May 30, 2019 7:55:48 GMT -5
It's because 24 X 48 is a standard size for rigid foam insulation. If you hsve the means to cut it down there's no reason why you can'd do that. But beware it can be pretty nasty stuff when you cut it. SafeNsound is much easier, a serrated blade is all you need, the panels you see in my photo are all 31.5 x 49 inches, I use 1 x 4 mdf and have 2 Roxul SafeNSound inuslation batts per panel The ceiling ones hang down 2" from the ceiling and the wall panels have blocks that keep them from the wall about an inch or so. The safe and Sound batts is what I was going to use but they only carry them in store in size 16X48. I can order the 24X48 on line but due to my room layout, I think the 16x48 would work better. |
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Post by creimes on May 30, 2019 8:15:50 GMT -5
SafeNsound is much easier, a serrated blade is all you need, the panels you see in my photo are all 31.5 x 49 inches, I use 1 x 4 mdf and have 2 Roxul SafeNSound inuslation batts per panel The ceiling ones hang down 2" from the ceiling and the wall panels have blocks that keep them from the wall about an inch or so. The safe and Sound batts is what I was going to use but they only carry them in store in size 16X48. I can order the 24X48 on line but due to my room layout, I think the 16x48 would work better. Yeah the 16x48 are the ones I used, each batt is like 15 inches if I remember correctly because when used for in your wall yous studs are 16" center to center, and I went cheap with basic cheapo sheets from Walmart, if I ever do it again I may go with something different to wrap them in, one of the best improvements in my room was $140 worth of DIY acoustic panels  Chad |
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Post by Mountainbiking Fool on May 30, 2019 13:00:35 GMT -5
The safe and Sound batts is what I was going to use but they only carry them in store in size 16X48. I can order the 24X48 on line but due to my room layout, I think the 16x48 would work better. Yeah the 16x48 are the ones I used, each batt is like 15 inches if I remember correctly because when used for in your wall yous studs are 16" center to center, and I went cheap with basic cheapo sheets from Walmart, if I ever do it again I may go with something different to wrap them in, one of the best improvements in my room was $140 worth of DIY acoustic panels Chad Yes, that is the size I am going to use. Have not decided on the fabric yet. Did you leave an air gap behind the panel and the wall or did you mount it directly to the wall? |
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Post by donh50 on May 30, 2019 13:17:37 GMT -5
Any velocity absorber (i.e. most any panel you can buy or build save the membrane versions) will work better if spaced off the wall. The rule of thumb is to space roughly the thickness of the panel but even a couple of inches will help.
HTH - Don
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Post by creimes on May 30, 2019 14:12:21 GMT -5
Yeah the 16x48 are the ones I used, each batt is like 15 inches if I remember correctly because when used for in your wall yous studs are 16" center to center, and I went cheap with basic cheapo sheets from Walmart, if I ever do it again I may go with something different to wrap them in, one of the best improvements in my room was $140 worth of DIY acoustic panels Chad Yes, that is the size I am going to use. Have not decided on the fabric yet. Did you leave an air gap behind the panel and the wall or did you mount it directly to the wall? The wall ones are only about an inch off the wall, they are right behind my couch so I couldn't go to much, the ceiling hang 2 inches from the ceiling. Chad |
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Post by knucklehead on May 30, 2019 18:27:43 GMT -5
Looks like the acoustic experts are all here! I'm considering using these Auralex panels in my vinyl setup. What's the consensus on these? I like the looks, which is why I'm considering them. Thanks! |
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Post by Bonzo on May 30, 2019 18:45:38 GMT -5
While at the hifi stores the last few weeks, my wife saw these. She really likes the look, but doesn't really fit in our space, especially since they don't just sell one at a time. Not cheap, but these guys make some nice looking stuff. Vicoustics. www.vicoustic.com/product/wavewood |
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Post by creimes on May 30, 2019 18:49:20 GMT -5
Looks like the acoustic experts are all here! I'm considering using these Auralex panels in my vinyl setup. What's the consensus on these? I like the looks, which is why I'm considering them. Thanks! Those won't absorb as much as they would diffuse, though diffusion is great as well, I actually want to build some I just don't know where to put them and my wife already thinks I belong in the loony bin haha, the DIY safensound panels are great for reflection points. |
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Post by creimes on May 30, 2019 18:51:38 GMT -5
While at the hifi stores the last few weeks, my wife saw these. She really likes the look, but doesn't really fit in our space, especially since they don't just sell one at a time. Not cheap, but these guys make some nice looking stuff. Vicoustics. www.vicoustic.com/product/wavewoodDo the larger slots absorb the louder db's and the smaller slots the quieter db's   all kidding aside they do look nice but I bet most of us cannot afford them haha, unless we built them ourselves that is  |
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Post by Bonzo on May 30, 2019 18:59:46 GMT -5
While at the hifi stores the last few weeks, my wife saw these. She really likes the look, but doesn't really fit in our space, especially since they don't just sell one at a time. Not cheap, but these guys make some nice looking stuff. Vicoustics. www.vicoustic.com/product/wavewoodDo the larger slots absorb the louder db's and the smaller slots the quieter db's all kidding aside they do look nice but I bet most of us cannot afford them haha, unless we built them ourselves that is Check the rest of their site...some cool options. Not Emotiva pricing, but not stupid Wilson Audio expensive either. It was something like $700 or $800 for 6 panels. I just don't have space for 6 panels. Yep, someone with wood skills could make them for cheaper. The walls in the Late Night With Jimmy Fallon studio have something similar to the one with all holes. |
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Post by Bonzo on May 30, 2019 19:04:31 GMT -5
I think these are the sort of panels Boomzilla could use, with the wood, that would look nice. And after he sells those watches, could easily afford. 😁 |
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Post by knucklehead on May 30, 2019 19:07:28 GMT -5
Looks like the acoustic experts are all here! I'm considering using these Auralex panels in my vinyl setup. What's the consensus on these? I like the looks, which is why I'm considering them. Thanks! Those won't absorb as much as they would diffuse, though diffusion is great as well, I actually want to build some I just don't know where to put them and my wife already thinks I belong in the loony bin haha, the DIY safensound panels are great for reflection points. I might look into rockwool, or something similar. I plan on having bass traps in three of the four corners. The door won't allow a fourth one. The room is 12x14', not quite square, but close. I'm slowly getting it done. I've been using it for storage. Finally figured out I don't use most of that stuff so I've been selling or throwing, depending on the category. Thanks for the help. |
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Post by donh50 on May 30, 2019 21:30:29 GMT -5
I've used Auralex panels but personally do not care for them... The foam does not absorb as well and the look is just that, a look -- it does not significantly diffuse sound. The foam also tends to dry out and flake off over time (or during installation if you aren't careful). I generally prefer panels using Corning OC-703 or similar, covered so fibers can't escape into the room. There are a number of suppliers like RealTraps, GIK, Ready Acoustics, Acoustic Sciences (TubeTraps), etc. Several of their sites include loads of tutorials and DIY advice if you want to roll your own, and some sell kits as well as finished panels. A variety of styles, sizes, and colors are available. Professional absorbers are available from places like Kinetics Noise Control (I used their IsoMax clips in my media room build to isolate the walls and ceiling), Mason Industries, etc. The Canadian NRC (http://soundpaths.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/#/) and numerous other sites have curves showing the advantage of spacing panels off the wall (and a whole lot more). Diffusion is generally more costly but works well and mid and upper frequencies to break up reflections and SBIR without making the room too "dead". Again, plenty of DIY plans around.
I used Rockwool (6" thick) in my walls. It absorbs well but is a little mesier to work with compared to OC-703 panels.
Triangles of Rockwool or OC-703 stacked in corners make great bass absorbers.
If you go RealTraps tell Ethan "hi".
HTH - Don
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Post by creimes on May 30, 2019 22:37:55 GMT -5
Those won't absorb as much as they would diffuse, though diffusion is great as well, I actually want to build some I just don't know where to put them and my wife already thinks I belong in the loony bin haha, the DIY safensound panels are great for reflection points. I might look into rockwool, or something similar. I plan on having bass traps in three of the four corners. The door won't allow a fourth one. The room is 12x14', not quite square, but close. I'm slowly getting it done. I've been using it for storage. Finally figured out I don't use most of that stuff so I've been selling or throwing, depending on the category. Thanks for the help. That's one of my issues, I would be all over building some corner bass traps but my room doesn't allow it, doors, furniture, etc etc haha |
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Post by adaboy on May 30, 2019 23:14:07 GMT -5
I use all GIK Acoustics panels. Good pricing and I didn't have to build them.
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all kidding aside they do look nice but I bet most of us cannot afford them haha, unless we built them ourselves that is 
