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Post by Perpendicular on Sept 18, 2019 19:21:35 GMT -5
I wonder if Compression is in play. That’s why Amazon’s Prime Music HD volume is lower in comparison to the other streaming services. 🤔
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Post by Gary Cook on Sept 18, 2019 20:03:55 GMT -5
If Amazon, Apple and Spotify go lossless, the market for cds and cd players will evaporate. Sell yours while there’s still a market for this outdated format. And as far as devices go, just get a mac mini. No way. ATT fiber internet was down in my neighborhood for 2 days. I enjoyed my listening session without interruption Exactly, therein lies the problem, we had no internet at the inner city apartment for 1.5 days this week, so no Apple Music or Spotify or OMG Netflix  My daughter was freaking out, until I came to the rescue with a box of her favourite CD's and BD's. The ones that she told me to throw out when she moved out  Streaming is all very well until the proverbial hits the fan and that's when you realise that there is no substitute for physical media that you own, forever. Cheers Gary |
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Post by sahmen on Sept 18, 2019 20:10:43 GMT -5
The desktop App shows tracks from Amazon Music HD playing in "UltraHD" format. When I click on the "Ultra HD Audio" tab, this is the readout I get: Ultra HD Audio Track Quality: 24 bit / 96 kHz Device Capability: 24 bit / 96 kHz Currently playing at: 16 bit / 44.1 kHz ***I do not know why my track is playing at 16 bit/44.1 kHz, when the capability of my device (MacBook Pro) matches the "Track quality" requirements. The Q & A page offers the following explanations of the conditions for getting Ultra HD music to play on one's device correctly, and all my "devices" satisfy all the required specs, so I do not think any compression bottleneck is in play here.... Still puzzled...  "What data speed does my internet connection need to be to listen to Amazon Music HD?We recommend a steady internet connection of 1.5 to 2 Mbps for HD streaming and 5 to 10 Mbps for Ultra HD streaming – typically available in LTE signals. For data usage purposes, note that HD audio typically consumes up to 5.5 MB of data per minute, and Ultra HD audio up to 12 MB of data per minute (when listening at the highest sample rates).
How do I know the audio quality of content I am listening to?When listening to music on Amazon Music HD, you can tap/click on the SD/HD/Ultra HD badge on the Now Playing screen and view the following streaming details - Track quality - The highest-quality file available for that track in the Amazon Music HD catalog. Device capability - The highest-quality audio that your device operating system reports that it is capable of. Currently playing at - The quality of the source file of the currently playing track. For streaming, the current source file quality may change due to varying network conditions. Your choice of speakers, headphones, and listening conditions also impacts overall sound quality." Still can't tell why the volume sounds this underwhelming:  |
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Post by Gary Cook on Sept 18, 2019 20:12:23 GMT -5
I wonder if Compression is in play. That’s why Amazon’s Prime Music HD volume is lower in comparison to the other streaming services. 🤔 Another thing to consider, by steaming our music we turn the quality of what we hear over to someone else. If, for example, they decide that compression is necessary at busy times then we have no control over the quality of what we listen to. If they have poor infrastructure geographically in our area then there is nothing that we can do about it. Risks, inherent whenever we pass control over to someone else. Cheers Gary |
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Post by klinemj on Sept 18, 2019 20:21:45 GMT -5
Interesting comments on the volume being so low.
From my point of view, I won't be interested in it until I can play it via Roon, and it doesn't look like there's ability to play via Roon yet. I looked and I found a LOT of threads on it, but I don't see any communication from Roon saying there's even a plan. But, there have been a lot of recent posts asking about for it to be included. Has anyone else seen anything firm from Roon about it?
Mark
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Post by audiogeek on Sept 18, 2019 21:05:44 GMT -5
I also like physical media. I like to push a button and music plays without any computers slowing, delaying, interrupting my enjoyment of the music. I know... I’m old school and in the minority.
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Post by novisnick on Sept 18, 2019 21:56:05 GMT -5
I also like physical media. I like to push a button and music plays without any computers slowing, delaying, interrupting my enjoyment of the music. I know... I’m old school and in the minority. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, .,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,..,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,..,.,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,,.,.,....,.,,.,.Buy a turntable! 🤭 |
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Post by jerrin on Sept 18, 2019 23:44:02 GMT -5
The desktop App shows tracks from Amazon Music HD playing in "UltraHD" format. When I click on the "Ultra HD Audio" tab, this is the readout I get: Ultra HD Audio Track Quality: 24 bit / 96 kHz Device Capability: 24 bit / 96 kHz Currently playing at: 16 bit / 44.1 kHz ***I do not know why my track is playing at 16 bit/44.1 kHz, when the capability of my device (MacBook Pro) matches the "Track quality" requirements. The Q & A page offers the following explanations of the conditions for getting Ultra HD music to play on one's device correctly, and all my "devices" satisfy all the required specs, so I do not think any compression bottleneck is in play here.... Still puzzled... "What data speed does my internet connection need to be to listen to Amazon Music HD?We recommend a steady internet connection of 1.5 to 2 Mbps for HD streaming and 5 to 10 Mbps for Ultra HD streaming – typically available in LTE signals. For data usage purposes, note that HD audio typically consumes up to 5.5 MB of data per minute, and Ultra HD audio up to 12 MB of data per minute (when listening at the highest sample rates).
How do I know the audio quality of content I am listening to?When listening to music on Amazon Music HD, you can tap/click on the SD/HD/Ultra HD badge on the Now Playing screen and view the following streaming details - Track quality - The highest-quality file available for that track in the Amazon Music HD catalog. Device capability - The highest-quality audio that your device operating system reports that it is capable of. Currently playing at - The quality of the source file of the currently playing track. For streaming, the current source file quality may change due to varying network conditions. Your choice of speakers, headphones, and listening conditions also impacts overall sound quality." Still can't tell why the volume sounds this underwhelming: Your problem is likely the same as mine was. In the desktop app, go to preferences--advanced--audio quality (should be set to HD/Ultra HD) Mine was set to standard which allows for 16bit 44.1khz. Sounded much better after the change. |
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Post by audiogeek on Sept 19, 2019 3:14:42 GMT -5
I also like physical media. I like to push a button and music plays without any computers slowing, delaying, interrupting my enjoyment of the music. I know... I’m old school and in the minority. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, .,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,..,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,..,.,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,,.,.,....,.,,.,.Buy a turntable! 🤭I did!! |
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Post by novisnick on Sept 19, 2019 7:43:00 GMT -5
Shame on you!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, .,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,..,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,..,.,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,,.,.,....,.,,.,.Buy a turntable! 🤭 I did!!  |
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Post by pedrocols on Sept 19, 2019 13:49:22 GMT -5
Is ok to lie to me and say you took that picture...😎 |
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Post by novisnick on Sept 19, 2019 14:56:53 GMT -5
Is ok to lie to me and say you took that picture...😎 I wish I had that kind of talent! |
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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 19, 2019 16:32:15 GMT -5
Blue Book lossless quality - no compression - cheaper than Tidal - Why not?
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Post by audiobill on Sept 19, 2019 17:09:53 GMT -5
Please remember that Tidal lossless for vets is $11.99/month.
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Post by novisnick on Sept 19, 2019 17:41:00 GMT -5
To me, without Roon integration it’s useless! A non player.
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Post by Perpendicular on Sept 19, 2019 18:09:44 GMT -5
Please remember that Tidal lossless for vets is $11.99/month. I tried to tell Tidal I’m a Veterinarian to get that pricing. It didn’t work. 🤔 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 18:22:17 GMT -5
I still own LPs, Cassettes, CDs, DVDs and if anyone believes I'm going 100 % cloud... LMAO..No way in hell, not even maybe.
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Post by audiobill on Sept 19, 2019 18:33:36 GMT -5
Please remember that Tidal lossless for vets is $11.99/month. I tried to tell Tidal I’m a Veterinarian to get that pricing. It didn’t work. 🤔 Thank you for your service. |
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Post by Cogito on Sept 19, 2019 20:50:07 GMT -5
I'll stick with my current Tidal subscription for now. At $11.99 with my military discount, it's still a better deal.
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My daughter was freaking out, until I came to the rescue with a box of her favourite CD's and BD's. The ones that she told me to throw out when she moved out 
Streaming is all very well until the proverbial hits the fan and that's when you realise that there is no substitute for physical media that you own, forever.
