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Post by billforesman on Sept 24, 2019 10:49:00 GMT -5
LOVE LOVE the XMC-1, now I'm trying to get it to actually see it show me 192khz/24bit playback? Best I can see is 96khz 24bit by using chromecast from my Emby server. Does anyone know a way I can get it to play the high end output?
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Post by garbulky on Sept 24, 2019 11:27:50 GMT -5
LOVE LOVE the XMC-1, now I'm trying to get it to actually see it show me 192khz/24bit playback? Best I can see is 96khz 24bit by using chromecast from my Emby server. Does anyone know a way I can get it to play the high end output? Which generation chromecast do you ahve? You ahve to have the chromecast audio or the chromecast second gen and later. community.roonlabs.com/t/chromecast-sample-rates/45615/14Looking at the above website it looks like it's Chromecast limiting the file to 96khz not XMC-1. |
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Post by billforesman on Sept 24, 2019 11:29:24 GMT -5
I have the Ultra and the Nvidia Shield. Beither will play beyond 96KHz so what does?
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Post by KeithL on Sept 24, 2019 11:53:53 GMT -5
The XMC-1 can do 24/192 (in Stereo) via USB or its other digital audio inputs. It can also do 24/192k in both Stereo and Surround via HDMI. (The other digital audio inputs can do 24/192 in stereo, but will be limited to lower sample rates in surround due to bandwidth limitations.)
You will find that many high-end disc players, most of which can also play files, can output 24/192k via HDMI. For example, our Oppo players can play 7.1 channel surround sound, at 24/192k, via HDMI, from a file on a USB stick, or a network share.
You will also find that many computers can do so - although that will depend on both the hardware and the particular player program you're using.
In general, at least via HDMI, the XMC-1 will play whatever you feed it, and it is the source that limits you. (Because it requires a lot of bandwidth, which increases the odds you will experience dropouts, you will find that many streaming solutions stop at 24/96, and more than a few top out at 44k or 48k.)
The easiest way to get 24/192k in stereo is to play some music via USB from your computer. There are lots of 24/192k files available for download - and most popular audiophile computer players (like jRiver and FooBar) support 24/192k. (In order to get the best audio quality, and avoid re-sampling, try to select WASAPI output mode in your player.)
LOVE LOVE the XMC-1, now I'm trying to get it to actually see it show me 192khz/24bit playback? Best I can see is 96khz 24bit by using chromecast from my Emby server. Does anyone know a way I can get it to play the high end output? |
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Post by billforesman on Sept 24, 2019 12:08:34 GMT -5
The problem I'm having is that Media servers like Plex and Emby do NOT send 192/24 but rather 48/16. I was hoping to not "sneakernet" my music to the usb port...
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Post by drtrey3 on Sept 24, 2019 12:18:37 GMT -5
Consider the source. 8)
Trey
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Post by dartinbout on Jun 14, 2020 18:47:59 GMT -5
I have a huge number of 24\192 5.1 files to play using a soundcard (with Burson Vivid v6 opamps) that supports this format. I just bought a used XMC-1 because I read, in multiple sources, that this pre\pro accepts analog 24\192 via unbalanced rca. Is this incorrect?
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Post by creimes on Jun 14, 2020 21:56:31 GMT -5
I have a huge number of 24\192 5.1 files to play using a soundcard (with Burson Vivid v6 opamps) that supports this format. I just bought a used XMC-1 because I read, in multiple sources, that this pre\pro accepts analog 24\192 via unbalanced rca. Is this incorrect? The XMC-1 will accept any analog audio as well it is analog, whatever source is converting the 24\192 files will do the digital to analog conversion, my main source in my system is my Mac Mini, I have it connected to my XMC-1 by USB and I use Audirvana as my main player on the Mac, so it send s a digital signal to my XMC-1 via the USB cable and my XMC-1 does the conversion to analog, sounds totally life altering good  Chad |
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Post by KeithL on Jun 15, 2020 0:41:24 GMT -5
As Creimes said... the XMC-1 will play ANY analog audio that you connect to its analog inputs... and it has both balanced and unbalanced analog inputs. (But, yes, the XMC-1 has a full set of 7.1 channel unbalanced analog inputs... which our newer processors do not.)
An analog signal is simply an analog signal... and all analog signals have the same "format". (Analog inputs don't have a "sample rate limit" - they are simply "analog".)
So any component with an analog input will accept an analog signal, whether it started out as 16/44k, or as 24/192k, before your DAC converted it. (Of course, with some it will sound better, for a variety of reasons... and the analog circuitry in the XMC-1 and our newer processors is very good.)
I have a huge number of 24\192 5.1 files to play using a soundcard (with Burson Vivid v6 opamps) that supports this format. I just bought a used XMC-1 because I read, in multiple sources, that this pre\pro accepts analog 24\192 via unbalanced rca. Is this incorrect? |
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Post by sgracing on Jun 15, 2020 6:11:40 GMT -5
So about two years ago i was curious about the display stating only 48khz and 24bit playback with all sources even though the source would be 192khz and 24 bit again all playback modes , stereo, reference stereo, Direct, and all suround modes. I was concerned so i called Lonnie Vaughn and hears what he told me and i quote " the XMC-1 does not do anything above 48khz and 24 bit you can't hear above 48khz anyway"
So I'm not sure how people here are getting above 48khz ....displayed hmmm is my XMC-1 defective or am i doing something wrong.
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Post by garbulky on Jun 15, 2020 10:29:02 GMT -5
So about two years ago i was curious about the display stating only 48khz and 24bit playback with all sources even though the source would be 192khz and 24 bit again all playback modes , stereo, reference stereo, Direct, and all suround modes. I was concerned so i called Lonnie Vaughn and hears what he told me and i quote " the XMC-1 does not do anything above 48khz and 24 bit you can't hear above 48khz anyway" So I'm not sure how people here are getting above 48khz ....displayed hmmm is my XMC-1 defective or am i doing something wrong. I believe with room correction or dirac enabled the dirac limits everything to 48 khz. But that shouldn't be an issue if you don't have those enabled? |
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Post by repeetavx on Jun 15, 2020 10:56:34 GMT -5
Amazon HD has many songs that it streams at 24/192. But you have to hunt for them. When I play the "Blues" station, several songs come up at 24/192.
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Post by davidl81 on Jun 15, 2020 11:00:35 GMT -5
Amazon HD has many songs that it streams at 24/192. But you have to hunt for them. When I play the "Blues" station, several songs come up at 24/192. I have just started using Amazon HD with a Bluesound Node 2i. I will get songs at 24/192. I also get 24/96 and 24/44. The downside to the Blue OS is that when going through the songs on Amazon there is no indication of the bit rate, I just have to depend on the RMC to tell me what it is seeing. I am going through coax connection. |
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Post by dartinbout on Jun 15, 2020 15:04:33 GMT -5
I have thousands 5.1 native 24\192 tracks on my NAS. I play them through J. River out my Auzentech RCA to the XMC-1 without conversion. Now, don't get me wrong, because of the Burson opamps on the soundcard, everything sounds wonderful as they did on old Onkyo and it did on my Sherbourn PT 7030 (until I snapped off three RCA inputs ports). I bought a used XMC-1 to replace it. I'm running RCA's into the XMC-1 5.1 unbalanced inputs and playing it as Analog 7.1 direct. I'm just trying to get the best sound out of the XMC-1. Digital would bypass the opamps and I don't know of a soundcard that outputs 5.1 via HDMI (and still lets me use the opamp. The 48kHz on the display just bugs me.
Am I crazy?
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Post by foggy1956 on Jun 15, 2020 15:17:24 GMT -5
I have thousands 5.1 native 24\192 tracks on my NAS. I play them through J. River out my Auzentech RCA to the XMC-1 without conversion. Now, don't get me wrong, because of the Burson opamps on the soundcard, everything sounds wonderful as they did on old Onkyo and it did on my Sherbourn PT 7030 (until I snapped off three RCA inputs ports). I bought a used XMC-1 to replace it. I'm running RCA's into the XMC-1 5.1 unbalanced inputs and playing it as Analog 7.1 direct. I'm just trying to get the best sound out of the XMC-1. Digital would bypass the opamps and I don't know of a soundcard that outputs 5.1 via HDMI (and still lets me use the opamp. The 48kHz on the display just bugs me. Am I crazy? If you are inputting an analog signal what the xmc-1 shows for a digital signal is irrelevant, so yes you may be crazy🙂 |
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Post by dartinbout on Jun 15, 2020 17:19:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the confirmation. I have no digital connections, at present, going into my (new to me) adopted Emotiva. My ears and soul are very happy. It's my crazy brain trying to ruin it (again). It's running firmware 4.0 16\08\29. Any audio reason to upgrade if all I'm doing is analog?
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Post by dartinbout on Jun 15, 2020 20:32:46 GMT -5
As a way to confirm, I reduced my output to 44.1 and the display still showed 48kHz. Our ears are analog, and like all of our senses, they are way more complex than linear analysis conveys. I'd spin vinyl but where would I store 10k albums?
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Post by Radblue on Jun 20, 2020 11:18:30 GMT -5
Thanks for the confirmation. I have no digital connections, at present, going into my (new to me) adopted Emotiva. My ears and soul are very happy. It's my crazy brain trying to ruin it (again). It's running firmware 4.0 16\08\29. Any audio reason to upgrade if all I'm doing is analog? Yes this is what I also observed, seems 48/24 is the "default" display for bitrate when its an anolog input. Basically the XMC-1 only displays the actual bitrate when you connect digitally to the XMC. This is when you are using the XMC 's DAC to convert to anolog. When you connect to anolog input you are using the DAC in the source device to convert. |
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Post by foggy1956 on Jun 20, 2020 14:00:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the confirmation. I have no digital connections, at present, going into my (new to me) adopted Emotiva. My ears and soul are very happy. It's my crazy brain trying to ruin it (again). It's running firmware 4.0 16\08\29. Any audio reason to upgrade if all I'm doing is analog? Yes this is what I also observed, seems 48/24 is the "default" display for bitrate when its an anolog input. Basically the XMC-1 only displays the actual bitrate when you connect digitally to the XMC. This is when you are using the XMC 's DAC to convert to anolog. When you connect to anolog input you are using the DAC in the source device to convert. This is correct |
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Post by passion4sound on Jul 25, 2023 19:41:35 GMT -5
Sorry to say, but maybe I am a slow study…. I own the first XMC-1 and happy with it. I connected with HDMI a new streamer with a output 24/94 and higher. But it does matter what I play. The display keep saying PCM 2.0… now I am sure that the output is correct. I am wondering I did something wrong in the input setup of the XMC-1?
Please help me out here…
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