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Post by selind40 on Nov 1, 2019 16:59:32 GMT -5
So....after dealing with this damn things turn on issues since buying it ( 2nd owner )......I finally had enough yesterday after attempting to get it to turn on, over 50 cycles of the power button.....she wouldn't come to life. Made a video of the madness attempting to get it to turn on, but some words and phrases uttered can not be shared on here   . So......for a flat rate of 300 bones, the big "E" promises to fix it and make me smile again. I wonder if I made the right call.....as opposed to poking around under the hood myself first?!?. For under $250 shipped I could have bought Creimes Sherbourn instead....hmmmmm. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 1, 2019 17:53:23 GMT -5
Obviously you have tried changing the fuses?
Cheers
Gary
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Post by selind40 on Nov 1, 2019 18:23:37 GMT -5
Obviously you have tried changing the fuses? Cheers Gary Well....no. My thinking was, if fuses were blown it wouldn't even try to come to life. I'd get a click...relay type noises, blue lights, followed by click, relay noises and back to amber light.....I'm thinking it was something beyond a fuse. If it wasn't, I hope the big "E" lies to me on the repair sheet and says a flux capacitor & fender gasket were at fault......then the 300 bones sounds reasonable. In the meantime, my 2 little Parasound Zpre pre-amps don't sound too bad.  |
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 2, 2019 0:48:12 GMT -5
Obviously you have tried changing the fuses? Well....no. My thinking was, if fuses were blown it wouldn't even try to come to life. I'd get a click...relay type noises, blue lights, followed by click, relay noises and back to amber light.....I'm thinking it was something beyond a fuse. If it wasn't, I hope the big "E" lies to me on the repair sheet and says a flux capacitor & fender gasket were at fault......then the 300 bones sounds reasonable. In the meantime, my 2 little Parasound Zpre pre-amps don't sound too bad.    Ahhh no, there are 2 slow blow fuses to protect the amplifier circuitry. The power supply can still power up the lights etc. I’d strongly suggest popping the cover off and checking them, take 5 minutes and might save you 3 hundy, Cheers Gary |
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Post by selind40 on Nov 2, 2019 9:02:01 GMT -5
Well....no. My thinking was, if fuses were blown it wouldn't even try to come to life. I'd get a click...relay type noises, blue lights, followed by click, relay noises and back to amber light.....I'm thinking it was something beyond a fuse. If it wasn't, I hope the big "E" lies to me on the repair sheet and says a flux capacitor & fender gasket were at fault......then the 300 bones sounds reasonable. In the meantime, my 2 little Parasound Zpre pre-amps don't sound too bad. Ahhh no, there are 2 slow blow fuses to protect the amplifier circuitry. The power supply can still power up the lights etc. I’d strongly suggest popping the cover off and checking them, take 5 minutes and might save you 3 hundy, Cheers Gary Too late.....it's in an UPS van on it's way to Franklin. TN. I've wasted money on dumb stuff before........I've got an ex-wife. |
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Post by selind40 on Nov 12, 2019 17:45:11 GMT -5
Sooooo.....just heard back from the big " E "......it seems they had to replace C5,13,14,17,18 caps on the power supply they found defective and causing the issues. Hopefully this will be a fix that will last longer than the 120 days they offer in warranty for this work.... $300 bucks flat rate...no idea how much those cap's cost to replace, but feel glad it wasn't just a fuse as Gary Cook pointed out. We shall see. In the meantime, the UMC-1 I grabbed from pdaddy has been a nice pick-up filling in. |
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Post by boomzilla on Nov 13, 2019 8:48:11 GMT -5
Hi'ya, cutie.  A moll like you should already know about da XSP-1... Whaddaya? I gotta tell ya about it? Arrite then - Ya know better dan'ta lissen too close to anything dat I say... Da machine is a class act, not like me or da likes a youse. Balanced inputs and outputs, phono stage, 'n tone controls. Way too rich a feature set for any wise guy. Matter'a fact, I used none of 'em. None of 'em, I tell'ya. Now what I did use, yeah, in addition to you, moll, was da bass management and da remote input switchin'. Dat sub does just what it's supposed to, I tell ya - An' nuttin' but! Both da low pass and da hi-pass can be varied an' dat match, well ya just can't tell where it happens. Dat's what ya get when ya buy da good stuff! Whiskey or stereo, dat good stuff's easy ta tell. So what's it sound like? Better'n you, moll, dat's for sure, dis baby ain't got no whiney mudder-in-law sound to it. What it DOES sound like, though, aint so easy to say. Like a bought-off witness, it just don't make much noise. Dem cenner images, dey juss don't shift and beyond dat, dere ain't no easy way to describe da sound. I got no ten dollar words like image, spatiality, or soundstage for dis one. It's got dose, sure, but it don't seem to like add or subtrak nuttin dat I can tell. Maybe dose "golden ears" can tell some diff, but ta me, it juss sounds like da source. An' nuttin is what da good ones are SUPPOSED to sound like. If it were like addin' or takin' sumpin' away, THEN I'd be obligated to rough it up a bit - no, moll, we aint doin' that just now, but dere aint nuttin dat I can hear. No hiss, no hum, an' no noise of any kind - jus' like I like you, moll. Quiet is a good thing for wiseguy nerves. When it plays, what I hear's absolute music to my ears - good when da source's good and not so good otherwise. Who'm I ta knock a good thing? I tell'ya, moll, this one's a keeper, just like you. Now don' go all weepy on me now - Ya know that sentiment stuff juss aint for da likes of me... I us'ta be big, strong, and stupid, but I ain't big & strong anymore. Even so, I know a good thing when I hear it. Emotiva done good again.  |
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Post by selind40 on Nov 13, 2019 9:06:59 GMT -5
Not sure what just happened there...or who Moll is, but I feel like I'm at a speakeasy smoking a no filter Chesterfield with a few fingers of scotch on the rocks...... |
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Post by KeithL on Nov 13, 2019 9:48:38 GMT -5
I guess you must be too young to remember real original "gansgster language".
There's probably some more detailed and technical description but...
A "moll" is sort of a a female assistant... who carries your guns, your cigars, and your hand grenades for you. Think the gangster's equivalent of a superhero's sidekick.
And, no, in the old days you didn't hear of female gansgters or male molls...
Not sure what just happened there...or who Moll is, but I feel like I'm at a speakeasy smoking a no filter Chesterfield with a few fingers of scotch on the rocks...... |
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Post by KeithL on Nov 13, 2019 9:50:29 GMT -5
Very cute... and right over a lot of people's heads. (I like the picture too.)  Hi'ya, cutie. A moll like you should already know about da XSP-1... Whaddaya? I gotta tell ya about it? Arrite then - Ya know better dan'ta lissen too close to anything dat I say... Da machine is a class act, not like me or da likes a youse. Balanced inputs and outputs, phono stage, 'n tone controls. Way too rich a feature set for any wise guy. Matter'a fact, I used none of 'em. None of 'em, I tell'ya. Now what I did use, yeah, in addition to you, moll, was da bass management and da remote input switchin'. Dat sub does just what it's supposed to, I tell ya - An' nuttin' but! Both da low pass and da hi-pass can be varied an' dat match, well ya just can't tell where it happens. Dat's what ya get when ya buy da good stuff! Whiskey or stereo, dat good stuff's easy ta tell. So what's it sound like? Better'n you, moll, dat's for sure, dis baby ain't got no whiney mudder-in-law sound to it. What it DOES sound like, though, aint so easy to say. Like a bought-off witness, it just don't make much noise. Dem cenner images, dey juss don't shift and beyond dat, dere ain't no easy way to describe da sound. I got no ten dollar words like image, spatiality, or soundstage for dis one. It's got dose, sure, but it don't seem to like add or subtrak nuttin dat I can tell. Maybe dose "golden ears" can tell some diff, but ta me, it juss sounds like da source. An' nuttin is what da good ones are SUPPOSED to sound like. If it were like addin' or takin' sumpin' away, THEN I'd be obligated to rough it up a bit - no, moll, we aint doin' that just now, but dere aint nuttin dat I can hear. No hiss, no hum, an' no noise of any kind - jus' like I like you, moll. Quiet is a good thing for wiseguy nerves. When it plays, what I hear's absolute music to my ears - good when da source's good and not so good otherwise. Who'm I ta knock a good thing? I tell'ya, moll, this one's a keeper, just like you. Now don' go all weepy on me now - Ya know that sentiment stuff juss aint for da likes of me... I us'ta be big, strong, and stupid, but I ain't big & strong anymore. Even so, I know a good thing when I hear it. Emotiva done good again. |
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Post by selind40 on Nov 13, 2019 9:54:19 GMT -5
I guess you must be too young to remember real original "gansgster language".
There's probably some more detailed and technical description but...
A "moll" is sort of a a female assistant... who carries your guns, your cigars, and your hand grenades for you. Think the gangster's equivalent of a superhero's sidekick.
And, no, in the old days you didn't hear of female gansgters or male molls...
Not sure what just happened there...or who Moll is, but I feel like I'm at a speakeasy smoking a no filter Chesterfield with a few fingers of scotch on the rocks...... Sorta figured....it was well written, better than anything I'm reading at work currently.... Hahaha |
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Post by boomzilla on Nov 13, 2019 16:27:16 GMT -5
Sorta figured....it was well written, better than anything I'm reading at work currently.... Hahaha "Damned with faint praise" LOL |
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Post by mfeust on Nov 13, 2019 20:28:18 GMT -5
I guess you must be too young to remember real original "gansgster language". There's probably some more detailed and technical description but...
A "moll" is sort of a a female assistant... who carries your guns, your cigars, and your hand grenades for you. Think the gangster's equivalent of a superhero's sidekick.
And, no, in the old days you didn't hear of female gansgters or male molls...
Not sure what just happened there...or who Moll is, but I feel like I'm at a speakeasy smoking a no filter Chesterfield with a few fingers of scotch on the rocks...... I am glad you posted this. I was worried Boom had a stroke before this post. Mark |
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Post by boomzilla on Nov 13, 2019 23:05:22 GMT -5
I am glad you posted this. I was worried Boom had a stroke before this post. - Mark I pride myself on being unpredictable, innovative, and creative - or, as the majority of the Lounge would describe me - just a big A-hole! "I yam what I yam" - Popeye the Sailor Man |
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Post by audiobill on Nov 16, 2019 6:20:52 GMT -5
A reminder that parts quality, especially capacitors, is so important to a component's quality. Cheap parts may not be the best path to lasting value.
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Post by selind40 on Nov 16, 2019 9:37:57 GMT -5
A reminder that parts quality, especially capacitors, is so important to a component's quality. Cheap parts may not be the best path to lastiing value. Very true......but I have no control over where & how Emotiva sources their capacitors. Hopefully the ones used in the repair are better than the ones it originally came with. |
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Post by audiobill on Nov 16, 2019 11:25:57 GMT -5
Probably so!!
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Post by boomzilla on Nov 16, 2019 13:48:56 GMT -5
Probably not... "Repairs" are made these days by modular substitution. The old idea of an actual "repairman" at a bench with a VOM and a soldering iron is just that - an old idea.
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Post by vcautokid on Nov 16, 2019 14:23:50 GMT -5
Obviously you have tried changing the fuses? Cheers Gary Well....no. My thinking was, if fuses were blown it wouldn't even try to come to life. I'd get a click...relay type noises, blue lights, followed by click, relay noises and back to amber light.....I'm thinking it was something beyond a fuse. If it wasn't, I hope the big "E" lies to me on the repair sheet and says a flux capacitor & fender gasket were at fault......then the 300 bones sounds reasonable. In the meantime, my 2 little Parasound Zpre pre-amps don't sound too bad. You forgot the blinker fluid and Have Blue transformer fluid, and the only Tuesday firmware update. |
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Post by vcautokid on Nov 16, 2019 14:28:12 GMT -5
Probably not... "Repairs" are made these days by modular substitution. The old idea of an actual "repairman" at a bench with a VOM and a soldering iron is just that - an old idea. You said it man. Rare are the guys who this resistor in the buffer stage took out whatevers, and this coupling capacitor wanted a divorce from this -12 volt rail. Swap tronics or toss it out and get another one is all too common. And shite parts inside does no one any good. I replace all my eletrolytics with quality Nichicon Muse and the like. I hate having to touch it again any time soon on the inside. |
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