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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 16, 2019 14:06:16 GMT -5
I ran across a Sonos PZ90 at an estate sale this morning (with remote & wireless). The good news - Roon sees it (immediately) as a destination & can use it as an endpoint. The bad news (unless I'm missing something) is that all I can do with it is either 1) use its inferior internal DAC to output stereo analog audio on RCA connectors or 2) use its digital coaxial output to feed my DAC.
Is there any advantage in using the Sonos to convert from Ethernet to SP/DIF coaxial over letting the Oppo do the same thing?
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Post by vcautokid on Nov 16, 2019 14:17:50 GMT -5
Nope. No foul either. About a wash really. I trust both Sonos and Oppo very much. Sonos has allot more presence in the homes I put together though. It works. Is it the best? Depends on what you want. I would hold course with the oppo if that has been great for you. Maybe apply the Sonos elsewhere if that makes any sense? You can't lose really no matter what really.
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Post by klinemj on Nov 16, 2019 15:09:11 GMT -5
I ran across a Sonos PZ90 at an estate sale this morning (with remote & wireless). The good news - Roon sees it (immediately) as a destination & can use it as an endpoint. The bad news (unless I'm missing something) is that all I can do with it is either 1) use its inferior internal DAC to output stereo analog audio on RCA connectors or 2) use its digital coaxial output to feed my DAC. Is there any advantage in using the Sonos to convert from Ethernet to SP/DIF coaxial over letting the Oppo do the same thing? Boomzilla As a long time Sonos user, the main advantage for Sonos is that it makes audio for "around the house with multiple rooms" easy for the common person. Even the interface is easy to use. But. the internal DACs are just "ok" - nothing I would ever use in critical listening, but if I'm floating in the pool listening to my outdoor speakers - it's fine. For the ones with amps built in - same story..."ok" amps, but nothing special. But, for when I'm listening to music in my kitchen as I cook - it's fine. And, of course, it's all limited to CD quality only. If I had to do it all over again, I'd skip Sonos and use a bunch of R-Pi's with HAT DACs and maybe even HAT amps (or a small, inexpensive external amp) for my around the house music. With Roon as the controller, they do the same thing as Sonos but for a lot cheaper (unless I found a bunch of estate sale Sonos!). By the way...you called it a "PZ90" here and your "recent purchases" post...isn't it a "ZP90"? The product is a "zone player", hence the "ZP", not "PZ". Mark |
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Post by donh50 on Nov 16, 2019 15:30:29 GMT -5
I have a bunch of SONOS players, have for years, and love them for playing music around the house. For the stereos I have Connects (a newer renaming of the ZP90) and use the optical or coax output so am not using the internal DACs. THe DACs have been criticized in a number of reviews for being "OK" but not great. They don't do hi-res but the vast majority of my music is on CDs and when I want play an SACD I pop it in the Oppo.
That said I see no advantage in getting the ZP90 to replace what you already have with your Oppo unless you like the SONOS interface better.
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 16, 2019 16:44:42 GMT -5
Yeah - it is a ZP not a PZ. I think that for my use, the Oppo may be the superior tool - I think it'll do 96/24 and the Sonos won't. OTOH, for the vast majority of my music library (44/16 CD-standard), the Sonos offers the option of not leaving my Oppo powered on 24/7 and therefore probably extending its service life. But again, I could probably do that by using the TOSLINK optical output from my AirPort Express...
All in all, 90% of the Sonos functionality is of no use to me. But I may keep the Sonos box as a Roon destination. Maybe I can sell the remote and iPod/iPhone/iPad interface to recoup some of the cost...
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Post by klinemj on Nov 16, 2019 16:52:24 GMT -5
Yeah - it is a ZP not a PZ. I think that for my use, the Oppo may be the superior tool - I think it'll do 96/24 and the Sonos won't. OTOH, for the vast majority of my music library (44/16 CD-standard), the Sonos offers the option of not leaving my Oppo powered on 24/7 and therefore probably extending its service life. But again, I could probably do that by using the TOSLINK optical output from my AirPort Express... All in all, 90% of the Sonos functionality is of no use to me. But I may keep the Sonos box as a Roon destination. Maybe I can sell the remote and iPod/iPhone/iPad interface to recoup some of the cost... Might as well sell the remote. They stopped selling those years ago, IIRC. Now, you can control Sonos from apps on any phone, PC, or Mac. But, a working ZP90 for $90 is a great deal. You could likely resell it for a lot more...like over $200. Mark |
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 16, 2019 17:39:27 GMT -5
Nah - the ones going on eBay seem to be about $140 ($160 with shipping) - and there are a BUNCH for sale.
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