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Post by Lsc on Apr 21, 2020 17:50:41 GMT -5
I spoke to a dealer yesterday and looks like I narrowed down my choices. Maybe you guys already know this but this was new information for me. It turns out that my Revel F208/C208 speakers are relatively easy to drive. So between the 4003 and 6003, the 4003 would be all I need to drive my speakers. I was told the Ultima line like the salon2 is a difficult load and those require 6003. The 6003 has more output devices and can handle a difficult load better than the 4003. The dealer is also an Emotiva dealer and so it looks like the DR3 is a strong choice and would have no issues driving my speakers. So that was the lesson I learned. Looks like the 4003 is more than good enough and getting the 6003 would be wasting money. Of course knowing this I may still be leaning towards the 6003 😊. Also while not the best reason, I’ve had Emotiva amps for a while so just wanting to try something different is factoring in my decision. ATI also has a 7 year warranty that gives me peace of mind too (for 2 more years) Just because I'm curious, how much is your dealer asking for the 4003 & 6003 ? My local guy quoted about 10% off. |
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Post by leonski on Apr 21, 2020 19:08:04 GMT -5
I just dumped my answer and have to start OVER! crap. Forte doesn't NEED a lot of power. Good sensitivity. I'd like to give it a try with the AmpCampAmp by DIYAudio / Pass. Single ended Class 'A'. Are you talking about the Forte III? Is the sensitivity on that rated at 99dB like the Forte II? I’ve had the Forte II since like 1994 and used them until 2013 when I got my Revel F208. While the F208 is a much better speaker in terms of accuracy, the dynamics of the Forte II is still unrivaled. I used to switch out the speakers every now and then. And even with the Forte II, they sounded the best with my XPR2. I’m sure it didn’t use a lot of watts but my XPR2 has been my best amp to date (not talking about watts). Stereophile measured and Klipsch spec are a LITTLE off. I'll go with Stereophile. I'd even TRY the Klipsch Forte III with my 30$ chip amp from Parts Express.....It's maybe 4 or 5 decent watts. NO FRILLS. I don't know about the Forte II sensitivity. But I DO know the 'new' version has quite a few changes from the original and the Mark II versions. I need to HEAR 'em.....before making any decision..... |
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Post by Lsc on Apr 21, 2020 19:21:02 GMT -5
Are you talking about the Forte III? Is the sensitivity on that rated at 99dB like the Forte II? I’ve had the Forte II since like 1994 and used them until 2013 when I got my Revel F208. While the F208 is a much better speaker in terms of accuracy, the dynamics of the Forte II is still unrivaled. I used to switch out the speakers every now and then. And even with the Forte II, they sounded the best with my XPR2. I’m sure it didn’t use a lot of watts but my XPR2 has been my best amp to date (not talking about watts). Stereophile measured and Klipsch spec are a LITTLE off. I'll go with Stereophile. I'd even TRY the Klipsch Forte III with my 30$ chip amp from Parts Express.....It's maybe 4 or 5 decent watts. NO FRILLS. I don't know about the Forte II sensitivity. But I DO know the 'new' version has quite a few changes from the original and the Mark II versions. I need to HEAR 'em.....before making any decision..... I’m sure the III is much better and more refined. The sensitivity on the Forte II with the 15” passive radiator was 99dB by Klipsch but a magazine around that time said it was 96dB. |
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Post by leonski on Apr 21, 2020 20:36:17 GMT -5
You made me look! Stereophile gets 95.2db for the Forte III. Claimed is an ambitious 99. Also has a 15" passive radiator on the rear. www.stereophile.com/content/klipsch-forte-iii-loudspeaker-measurementsBecause of the impedance / phase data, Stereophile recommends an amp capable into 4 ohms. And also recommends being carful with tube amps.... As with any purchase of this magnitude, LISTEN FIRST is teh best advice. |
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Post by Lsc on Apr 21, 2020 21:33:47 GMT -5
You made me look! Stereophile gets 95.2db for the Forte III. Claimed is an ambitious 99. Also has a 15" passive radiator on the rear. www.stereophile.com/content/klipsch-forte-iii-loudspeaker-measurementsBecause of the impedance / phase data, Stereophile recommends an amp capable into 4 ohms. And also recommends being careful with tube amps.... As with any purchase of this magnitude, LISTEN FIRST is the best advice. It looks like it has a demanding load then. I'm sure it sounds great but I'm all in with the Revels. The best part of the Revels starting with the Performa3 line is the center channel. It's well thought out and massive enough to make my setup equally capable of music and movies. But the dynamics of the Klipsch Fortes cannot be denied! |
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Post by Lsc on Apr 22, 2020 13:09:19 GMT -5
Looks like the 4005 is not a bad option either. Plus it’ll have a higher resale value.
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Post by leonski on Apr 22, 2020 14:39:29 GMT -5
Like your Revel speakers? Than no reason to change. I've had Maggies for 35 years or so. Bought some used MG1 from a buddy at work.
Never looked back.
But now I'm thinking along a different path. MUCH less amplifier power. Box speakers instead of the space-consuming panels. Ability to play LOUDLY.
Once this Covid thing blows over....6 to 12 months by my 'reckoning', I'll migrate up to Los Angles where a couple Klipsch Heritage dealers may STILL exist.
Maybe I could sell ONE of my Parasound amps and just use the one for the Klipsch? Power would be about right and the amp is capable at 4ohms even into
what might prove to be a weird load at some frequencies.
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Post by Lsc on Apr 22, 2020 14:56:58 GMT -5
Like your Revel speakers? Than no reason to change. I've had Maggies for 35 years or so. Bought some used MG1 from a buddy at work. Never looked back. But now I'm thinking along a different path. MUCH less amplifier power. Box speakers instead of the space-consuming panels. Ability to play LOUDLY. Once this Covid thing blows over....6 to 12 months by my 'reckoning', I'll migrate up to Los Angles where a couple Klipsch Heritage dealers may STILL exist. Maybe I could sell ONE of my Parasound amps and just use the one for the Klipsch? Power would be about right and the amp is capable at 4ohms even into what might prove to be a weird load at some frequencies. My revel speakers I plan on keeping for a while and yes, for me to improve on these it would cost a lot. I also don’t change speakers very often. I like Klipsch. I don’t think I’ll ever sell my Forte II. |
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