cawgijoe
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Post by cawgijoe on May 26, 2020 6:57:42 GMT -5
As you probably know I am not at all a fan of Apple anything....
(I also wouldn't like doing anything that requires detailed anything on a touch screen...) However, there are other things in the Apple ecosystem besides besides expensive phones, expensive laptops, and expensive tablets. For example, if she doesn't need something portable for video editing, you could look at a Mac Mini... They're actually comparable in price to a high-end desktop PC... and the latest models include quite powerful processors...
I find this very interesting.
I am a fan of Apple and it's products. They talk to and get along well. They are well built products using higher quality materials than other manufacturers. The software for the most part works well and is updated regularly as required. Even though I love tech, I am not an engineer.
My wife is an engineer. She is not a fan of Mac computers. She has an iphone and is ok with it. She does like her Apple Watch. She says that the reason she doesn't like Macs is that it's much harder to "tinker" with the operating system like you can with a PC. That's the "engineer" in her.
I've known many technical folks, EE's, Software Engineers, who are in the PC camp....so it's not surprising to me that Keith is not an Apple fan. |
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Post by 405x5 on May 26, 2020 7:27:31 GMT -5
Windows or Mac? I don’t care anymore and could live with either these days (I do actually).....
The early days of Windows left a bad taste to get over but that’s an old story.
Bill
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 26, 2020 12:49:49 GMT -5
As you probably know I am not at all a fan of Apple anything....
(I also wouldn't like doing anything that requires detailed anything on a touch screen...) However, there are other things in the Apple ecosystem besides besides expensive phones, expensive laptops, and expensive tablets. For example, if she doesn't need something portable for video editing, you could look at a Mac Mini... They're actually comparable in price to a high-end desktop PC... and the latest models include quite powerful processors...
I find this very interesting. I am a fan of Apple and it's products. They talk to and get along well. They are well built products using higher quality materials than other manufacturers. The software for the most part works well and is updated regularly as required. Even though I love tech, I am not an engineer. My wife is an engineer. She is not a fan of Mac computers. She has an iphone and is ok with it. She does like her Apple Watch. She says that the reason she doesn't like Macs is that it's much harder to "tinker" with the operating system like you can with a PC. That's the "engineer" in her. I've known many technical folks, EE's, Software Engineers, who are in the PC camp....so it's not surprising to me that Keith is not an Apple fan. I on the other hand worked a lot with Linux (which is Unix based), and find macOS (also Unix based) very useful and powerful at the command prompt. I was also comfortable with the Windows command prompt, but my point is that it’s probably not ‘harder to tinker’ with a Mac, she is just less familiar with its workings so there is a new learning curve. I’m not sure where Keith’s comments about touch screens comes from, as Macs still work with a keyboard and mouse, just like a PC. However I agree with him on the choice of a Mac mini, I have three, and though two of them are 8 years old they still work perfectly, run the latest macOS Catalina, and don’t refuse updates. I think we all agree Apple products are more expensive, |
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Post by garbulky on May 26, 2020 14:30:00 GMT -5
I found this interesting thing "Apple continuity" www.apple.com/macos/continuity/Basically if the app supports it, then people can pick up their work between devices autoamtically. Now if imovie can do this that would be what I need. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 26, 2020 15:03:19 GMT -5
I found this interesting thing "Apple continuity" www.apple.com/macos/continuity/Basically if the app supports it, then people can pick up their work between devices autoamtically. Now if imovie can do this that would be what I need. The Handoff function works well between apps like Notes, Pages, Numbers, Safari where the capabilities of the apps are similar between iOS and macOS. However, Apps like GarageBand and iMovie are much more powerful (greater capabilities) on macOS. So while you can transfer files (say through iCloud) between iOS/iMovie and macOS/iMovie, you still have to open and close the files, and possibly even import/export depending on what you’re doing. I suppose they could have a ‘crippled’ mode of iMovie macOS that would allow the handoff, but I don’t think that’s possible now, though I know they’re working to make all the apps more alike between the platforms, I know I wouldn’t like a GarageBand or iMovie on macOS crippled. I’ll try to do an iPad iMovie edit and see what it takes to pick it up on the Mac. I normally take video on the iPhone or iPad, then do all my editing on the Mac, except for simple videos, which I might do all on the iPad. |
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Post by garbulky on May 26, 2020 16:56:54 GMT -5
I found this interesting thing "Apple continuity" www.apple.com/macos/continuity/Basically if the app supports it, then people can pick up their work between devices autoamtically. Now if imovie can do this that would be what I need. The Handoff function works well between apps like Notes, Pages, Numbers, Safari where the capabilities of the apps are similar between iOS and macOS. However, Apps like GarageBand and iMovie are much more powerful (greater capabilities) on macOS. So while you can transfer files (say through iCloud) between iOS/iMovie and macOS/iMovie, you still have to open and close the files, and possibly even import/export depending on what you’re doing. I suppose they could have a ‘crippled’ mode of iMovie macOS that would allow the handoff, but I don’t think that’s possible now, though I know they’re working to make all the apps more alike between the platforms, I know I wouldn’t like a GarageBand or iMovie on macOS crippled. I’ll try to do an iPad iMovie edit and see what it takes to pick it up on the Mac. I normally take video on the iPhone or iPad, then do all my editing on the Mac, except for simple videos, which I might do all on the iPad. That would be amazing! Thanks! |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 26, 2020 18:20:48 GMT -5
The Handoff function works well between apps like Notes, Pages, Numbers, Safari where the capabilities of the apps are similar between iOS and macOS. However, Apps like GarageBand and iMovie are much more powerful (greater capabilities) on macOS. So while you can transfer files (say through iCloud) between iOS/iMovie and macOS/iMovie, you still have to open and close the files, and possibly even import/export depending on what you’re doing. I suppose they could have a ‘crippled’ mode of iMovie macOS that would allow the handoff, but I don’t think that’s possible now, though I know they’re working to make all the apps more alike between the platforms, I know I wouldn’t like a GarageBand or iMovie on macOS crippled. I’ll try to do an iPad iMovie edit and see what it takes to pick it up on the Mac. I normally take video on the iPhone or iPad, then do all my editing on the Mac, except for simple videos, which I might do all on the iPad. That would be amazing! Thanks! Ok, first here’s what a normal ‘Handoff’ looks like between like apps on iPad and Mac. 1. Safari: I’m hanging in the Lounge on my iPad reading a post from Garbulky 😎  My Mac detects my iPad is nearby and offers a Handoff icon in the ‘Dock’ (bottom row left side)  I click on the Handoff icon and Safari opens to the same place so I can finish and reply.  2. Pages: I’m writing / editing a document in pages ... well same as above, i can go to Mac, click the Handoff icon and start editing the same way, I have pictures but only get 5 per post. (Hand off also works the other way, if I’m working on my Mac and an iPad is nearby, the iPad offers a Handoff.) 3. iMovie, I’m editing a movie on my iPad, my Mac does not offer a Handoff icon.  If I want to edit on the Mac (not just view), I must. A. Export the project (a project allows you to continue editing) B. Choose either Airdrop, or iCloud to make it available on the Mac C. Open the project with iMovie on the Mac. Here’s the Export and Airdrop screen from iMovie on iPad.  Edit: Here's an Apple support page on moving iMovie between Mobile and Mac support.apple.com/en-us/HT210411Here's another with just the few steps you need help.apple.com/imovie/ipad/2.2.9/#/kna4501dba9 |
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Post by copperpipe on May 27, 2020 15:18:50 GMT -5
Somehow I missed this glorious thread and it got wrapped up before I had a chance to weigh into the fray. No matter. Will just say this; I've gotten whiplash from all the times Windows has moved settings around in their, uh, "control panel". Some of it is fully revamped, some of it (ipv4 config for example) has dialog boxes that have been there since 1998 or earlier. They still have forms/windows that don't resize, they are locked at some really small size due to history of running on old/small monitors. They have one style/theme for half of windows, and a few other styles mixed in on stuff they haven't updated since windows 95.
Lets face it; the windows UI is absolute chaos at this point (I'd love to use stronger words). Nobody new to computers and seeing windows for the first time would think it's intuitive, clean, consistent, and easy to use. I've used all variants of windows and started computer life on dos 6.22.
Microsoft... is that some sort of toilet paper?
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Post by CRASHFIRE on Jun 3, 2020 13:34:24 GMT -5
Let me start with this, I use an iPhone daily, have since the iPhone 1, and have an Apple watch, iPad Pro, and a pair of Homepods. With that, I wasted my money on a iMac a couple years ago. I will never buy another Apple Mac product again. I bought it for photo editing with the hopes of maybe using it for other things. Now all I do with it is stream Netflix or Hulu while I am on my PC. I got the Intel i5 version with 16 gb of ram and the Amd video card. And it came with a really nice "5k" screen. Which by the way, that fancy 5k screen doesn't stream or play 4k movies. Yep, you read that right. Why do I not use it for anything other than watching streams? First, it's an overpriced cheap PC in a fancy shell. The only good thing about it is the screen. For photo editing it can't be beat. For everything else it does, a cheap Dell laptop could do. Most people don't know but the internals used in an iMac or Mac product are the same ones used in PCs. And, generally they are the lower end versions of those products. The Intel i5 chip is near the bottom and the ram is basic as well. Minus the screen, you could build a laptop for the same price or less that with better parts. These things truly are overpriced. Second, I have to reboot the darn thing daily. If I walk away and let it go to sleep, it will not come out of sleep mode. I have to force a shutdown and reboot. When that happens I get a warning about it shut down for whatever reason and ask if I want to send a report to Apple. I click yes it time it happens hoping they find a fix. I have contacted them about it and they have no idea why it is happening. Third, MacOS is a joke. It is not user friendly compared to Windows. I'm not saying I'm solely a Windows man. I have used Ubuntu and Red Hat on many machines in my lifetime. The difference is, I knew what I was getting into with those. MacOS is sold on being this great piece of software while it's not. Navigating around it can be painful. And don't get me started on the new Photos app. That thing is a joke. It does run Adobe Lightroom well.  One last thing, anyone who tells you that these things are virus proof are lying to you. They do get viruses or hacks. The reason you don't see it happening or hear about is because it doesn't happen as often. It's not because MacOC is the Fort Knox of oses, it's because Hackers go after the bigger user base. And we all know that Windows has a dominance over all Oses. So think about it, if you were a hacker, which fish would you fry first, the big one or the little one? With that said, Windows is more secure than it has ever been. I myself have not run any virus software other than the built-in one (Windows Defender) for years. And I have no issues. Also, to help with this, I do not give myself admin rights on my PCs. By doing this, any time anything wants to install on my machine, I have to give it permission. Which is what MacOS does as well. Ok, my fingers are gettin' tired. LOL! I could go on and on. I do want to end it with this, everything above is based on my experiences and has helped me form my own opinion about Macs. At the end of the day though, that's all this is, my opinion. I hold no ill will for anyone who loves Macs. In fact, I am glad you are happy with your purchase. I just don't share the same opinion about them. Anyways, hope you all have a great week. -CRASHFIRE |
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Post by audiobill on Jun 3, 2020 13:41:26 GMT -5
Crashfire, but how do you feel about it?
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Post by garbulky on Jun 3, 2020 14:41:09 GMT -5
That would be amazing! Thanks! Ok, first here’s what a normal ‘Handoff’ looks like between like apps on iPad and Mac. 1. Safari: I’m hanging in the Lounge on my iPad reading a post from Garbulky 😎 View AttachmentMy Mac detects my iPad is nearby and offers a Handoff icon in the ‘Dock’ (bottom row left side) View AttachmentI click on the Handoff icon and Safari opens to the same place so I can finish and reply. View Attachment2. Pages: I’m writing / editing a document in pages ... well same as above, i can go to Mac, click the Handoff icon and start editing the same way, I have pictures but only get 5 per post. (Hand off also works the other way, if I’m working on my Mac and an iPad is nearby, the iPad offers a Handoff.) 3. iMovie, I’m editing a movie on my iPad, my Mac does not offer a Handoff icon. View AttachmentIf I want to edit on the Mac (not just view), I must. A. Export the project (a project allows you to continue editing) B. Choose either Airdrop, or iCloud to make it available on the Mac C. Open the project with iMovie on the Mac. Here’s the Export and Airdrop screen from iMovie on iPad. View AttachmentEdit: Here's an Apple support page on moving iMovie between Mobile and Mac support.apple.com/en-us/HT210411Here's another with just the few steps you need help.apple.com/imovie/ipad/2.2.9/#/kna4501dba9I totally missed this! Thank you VERY MUCH. Seeing it put like that makes it a lot easier to understand the process!! Thanks again |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 3, 2020 15:01:31 GMT -5
Crashfire, but how do you feel about it? One word ... paragraphs |
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Post by KeithL on Jun 3, 2020 21:31:52 GMT -5
A lot of what works, and doesn't work, for you will depend on what you're looking for....
The general rule of "getting in bed" is that "the more bells, whistles, and exclusive features you use, the more trouble you're going to have later, when you need to update, or move to another program". This is true for music players - and for computers in general. For example, if you set up a great library in Roon, or in jRiver, or iTunes, with all the tags, and extra content, and fancy organization options, odds are someday you'll have a problem with an update, and odds are you WON'T be able to use your library with any other program. And, if Roon, or jRiver, or whoever wrote that program, goes out of business in a few years, you're going to have trouble running your old versiont on the new computer you buy five years down the road. However, if all you have are a bunch of folders, with plain old WAV files in them, odds are you'll be able to play them forever.
The same is true for things like wordprocessing files and especially multimedia files. If you create a flashy multimedia presentation, in the latest version of Adobe Premiere or Garage Band, it may look great today, but I wouldn't bet on being able to play it in twenty years. In contrast, that plain text file that I wrote forty years ago in DOS still reads just fine in Word, or on the latest version of Windows or Mac/OS, or in Linux, or even on an Android tablet.
I don't offhand know of any "data type" programs that can selectively verify checksums on only the music portion of a file.
However, there are many programs that enable you to record and verify checksums on entire files. Many file manager programs also offer this function - since it is widely used for all sorts of data files.
Most such programs in Windows work by a command to "create a checksum file"...
One rather old one for Windows is called CDCheck (it is intended for CDs but it works with any group of files).
It can update tags, download and update album art, check your RIPs when you make them, and verify your files against a database later. (I assume that it can also verify the music itself - against that external database - and ignore the tags and extras while doing so.)
I always use AccurateRIP to verify my files when I rip them, and CDCheck to verify them later, so I haven't dug into what Perfectunes can do...
But it sounds awfully handy... especially if you have potentially damaged rips that you want to verify.
REMEMBER...... Programs like AccurateRIP compare the checksum of the tracks you rip against checksums of other rips of the same song or album. Because checksums are specifically very unique... if your checksum agrees with many others then odd are very good that your file is perfect. (If a bunch of other people ripped the same track, from the same CD, they should all have gotten the same checksum for each of those tracks.)
However, if the checksum on one or two tracks doesn't agree, it could be because you have a version of that CD that isn't very common. It is not uncommon to find different editions of a CD where most tracks are identical... but a few are slightly different... and have different checksums.
(So a "good" result virtually guarantees that your files are perfect; but a "bad" result isn't a guarantee that they're bad.)
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Post by audiobill on Jun 4, 2020 4:38:32 GMT -5
I really don't choose to be mired down in the world of checksums, cdcheck and all that.....
Listening time is far too valuable, and, for me, the point of this hobby.
Streaming is a far better solution.....
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 4, 2020 17:00:51 GMT -5
I really don't choose to be mired down in the world of checksums, cdcheck and all that..... Listening time is far too valuable, and, for me, the point of this hobby. Streaming is a far better solution..... Certainly a valid opinion, but it sounds like you never listen without the Internet? |
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Post by audiobill on Jun 4, 2020 17:08:19 GMT -5
Yes, but I let the data gnomes at Qobuz and Tidal and Roon handle the data administration tasks while I relax with a cool beverage.
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One last thing, anyone who tells you that these things are virus proof are lying to you. They do get viruses or hacks. The reason you don't see it happening or hear about is because it doesn't happen as often. It's not because MacOC is the Fort Knox of oses, it's because Hackers go after the bigger user base. And we all know that Windows has a dominance over all Oses. So think about it, if you were a hacker, which fish would you fry first, the big one or the little one? With that said, Windows is more secure than it has ever been. I myself have not run any virus software other than the built-in one (Windows Defender) for years. And I have no issues. Also, to help with this, I do not give myself admin rights on my PCs. By doing this, any time anything wants to install on my machine, I have to give it permission. Which is what MacOS does as well. Ok, my fingers are gettin' tired. LOL! I could go on and on. I do want to end it with this, everything above is based on my experiences and has helped me form my own opinion about Macs. At the end of the day though, that's all this is, my opinion. I hold no ill will for anyone who loves Macs. In fact, I am glad you are happy with your purchase. I just don't share the same opinion about them. Anyways, hope you all have a great week. -CRASHFIRE
