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Post by ekpen on Mar 21, 2022 11:41:42 GMT -5
any link to make of 8k cables ? George You can find the Cable Matters 3-pack HERE. If you’d prefer a short cable that’s also HDMI “Ultra” certified, I’d recommend the Zeskit Lite. I use these on all of my source devices. They are thin, flexible and put a lot less stress upon your HDMI ports. They do cost a little more than the Cable Matters cables, but still priced quite reasonably for a “certified” cable. You can find the Zeskit Lite HEREFWIW, although I don’t have any personal experience with their HDMI offerings, I have used other Cable Matters products. Their XLR and network cables are high quality and very cost effective. Personally, even though I would prefer that a manufacturer have their cables “certified”, I don’t think that you can go wrong with either. thanks. George |
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Post by marcl on Mar 21, 2022 12:02:32 GMT -5
I didn't get a chance to run anything through REW last night and could only do a quiet listening test between User EQ and my new Dirac calibration. User EQ was definitely much less hot on the bass (the Dirac EQ has a +6 db Harman Curve). I'm going to try to do more testing this weekend. Well, I think I figured out what had happened with my subs running so hot. I'm still a little confused about some of the things I experienced such as a large peak at 30 hz that I do not believe was there before. I believe this is what happened: Had system calibrated with Dirac last year. Not sure if I ever measured with REW to actually confirm what Dirac did but it sounded good so I left it. Got pretty drunk the other weekend and turned my gain on my sub amps up higher than normal while in a state where my memory is foggy  Now when I'm listening this past week I'm like wait, why are the subs so hot? Lol well then I measure with REW and they are 30 dBs hot! Ok, that's crazy....then I also remember, if I'm not mistaken in REW you should measure your channel 4 with a signal of -40 dbfs instead of -30 dbfs because of the 10 dB boost the LFE channel gets. Does that sound right? So basically it was a combination of my mistakes and misunderstandings I think...the levels still seemed a bit high for how I had the gain set on the amp (only at half power) but they are pretty powerful amps (SpeakerPower SP2-8000HT). I did a full factory reset of my XMC-2 and ran an all new Dirac calibration with the gain turned down to the 9 o clock position and it seems to be working fine now. When I measure in REW with a 10dB harman curve I see a 20 dB boost in the low end, assuming this is because I measured the LFE channel and it applied the 10 dB to the sub. Yes, if you send signal from REW to the processor from channel 4, the processor adds the 10db. I leave it alone, usually, because it's loud but doesn't clip. Have to suggest the breathalizer option to the REW feature list.  |
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Post by ElectricKoolAid on Mar 21, 2022 14:51:56 GMT -5
Well, I think I figured out what had happened with my subs running so hot. I'm still a little confused about some of the things I experienced such as a large peak at 30 hz that I do not believe was there before. I believe this is what happened: Had system calibrated with Dirac last year. Not sure if I ever measured with REW to actually confirm what Dirac did but it sounded good so I left it. Got pretty drunk the other weekend and turned my gain on my sub amps up higher than normal while in a state where my memory is foggy Now when I'm listening this past week I'm like wait, why are the subs so hot? Lol well then I measure with REW and they are 30 dBs hot! Ok, that's crazy....then I also remember, if I'm not mistaken in REW you should measure your channel 4 with a signal of -40 dbfs instead of -30 dbfs because of the 10 dB boost the LFE channel gets. Does that sound right? So basically it was a combination of my mistakes and misunderstandings I think...the levels still seemed a bit high for how I had the gain set on the amp (only at half power) but they are pretty powerful amps (SpeakerPower SP2-8000HT). I did a full factory reset of my XMC-2 and ran an all new Dirac calibration with the gain turned down to the 9 o clock position and it seems to be working fine now. When I measure in REW with a 10dB harman curve I see a 20 dB boost in the low end, assuming this is because I measured the LFE channel and it applied the 10 dB to the sub. Yes, if you send signal from REW to the processor from channel 4, the processor adds the 10db. I leave it alone, usually, because it's loud but doesn't clip. Have to suggest the breathalizer option to the REW feature list.  Yeah I think after 9 PM on Friday night my rack should require a breathalyzer so that I can't open it and crank the sub up and then wonder why it's loud the next week haha |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 22, 2022 9:58:03 GMT -5
As far as waiting for a firmware update goes, I must admit I am getting close to the end of my rope. I do not understand why Emo cannot give us some idea as to what to expect in regards to when an update will be released. I don't mean an exact date. Maybe which quarter of this year or the next. Something!!
The issue I had previously of no video when first turning on the tv after everything has been off for several hours or overnight seems to be happening more often. The RMC is set for Video Remains On and I make sure to watch tv before turning everything off. When I turn the tv on again, especially overnight, the video sometimes does not come on. I just push the button on the RMC remote that corresponds with the tv's input and the video comes on. This is with the RMC in Standby mode. This is no big deal for me (although the function should work as it is supposed too) but other family members are not happy when this happens.
This will be my last post complaining about a lack of info concerning a firmware update. I promise.
Regards to all!
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Post by ElectricKoolAid on Mar 22, 2022 10:09:08 GMT -5
As far as waiting for a firmware update goes, I must admit I am getting close to the end of my rope. I do not understand why Emo cannot give us some idea as to what to expect in regards to when an update will be released. I don't mean an exact date. Maybe which quarter of this year or the next. Something!! The issue I had previously of no video when first turning on the tv after everything has been off for several hours or overnight seems to be happening more often. The RMC is set for Video Remains On and I make sure to watch tv before turning everything off. When I turn the tv on again, especially overnight, the video sometimes does not come on. I just push the button on the RMC remote that corresponds with the tv's input and the video comes on. This is with the RMC in Standby mode. This is no big deal for me (although the function should work as it is supposed too) but other family members are not happy when this happens. This will be my last post complaining about a lack of info concerning a firmware update. I promise. Regards to all! I am really hoping that "no input" issue is improved with the next firmware as well. I'd say about 85% of the time when I turn everything on I get a blank screen, either changing HDMI inputs or power cycling will fix this - it's just a bit inconvenient when it's almost every single time. This is with VRO and HDMI CEC enabled (yes I know CEC is a bad word, every other device I've used CEC with though has had no issue....) |
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Post by rhale64 on Mar 22, 2022 10:20:42 GMT -5
As far as waiting for a firmware update goes, I must admit I am getting close to the end of my rope. I do not understand why Emo cannot give us some idea as to what to expect in regards to when an update will be released. I don't mean an exact date. Maybe which quarter of this year or the next. Something!! The issue I had previously of no video when first turning on the tv after everything has been off for several hours or overnight seems to be happening more often. The RMC is set for Video Remains On and I make sure to watch tv before turning everything off. When I turn the tv on again, especially overnight, the video sometimes does not come on. I just push the button on the RMC remote that corresponds with the tv's input and the video comes on. This is with the RMC in Standby mode. This is no big deal for me (although the function should work as it is supposed too) but other family members are not happy when this happens. This will be my last post complaining about a lack of info concerning a firmware update. I promise. Regards to all! I am getting close also. The Anthem AVM 70/90 look very promising. They just got a new update that does alot of what DLBC does. And people there couldn't be happier with them. If I knew an update was definitely coming I would at least have hope. But at this time I am starting to wonder if they have just realized it is not hopeful to implement all the different things they had planned with the upgrade cards on the RMC1. It has to be something that threw a monkey wrench into it. It was right around the corner a loooong time ago. It should have been out by now. It doesn't take this long unless something went very wrong. This is just my opinion. But it seems pretty accurate to me. Emotiva is being really tight lipped. And even the beta testers are also. |
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Post by cawgijoe on Mar 22, 2022 10:56:06 GMT -5
As far as waiting for a firmware update goes, I must admit I am getting close to the end of my rope. I do not understand why Emo cannot give us some idea as to what to expect in regards to when an update will be released. I don't mean an exact date. Maybe which quarter of this year or the next. Something!! The issue I had previously of no video when first turning on the tv after everything has been off for several hours or overnight seems to be happening more often. The RMC is set for Video Remains On and I make sure to watch tv before turning everything off. When I turn the tv on again, especially overnight, the video sometimes does not come on. I just push the button on the RMC remote that corresponds with the tv's input and the video comes on. This is with the RMC in Standby mode. This is no big deal for me (although the function should work as it is supposed too) but other family members are not happy when this happens. This will be my last post complaining about a lack of info concerning a firmware update. I promise. Regards to all! I don't understand this issue. I use VRO and have never lost video on turn on. We use two different remotes....my wife tends to use the Directv remote which is programmed to turn on the HR44 and the TV. That always works. I tend to use the Harmony One which turns the TV on along with the Emotiva XPA-5 amp. Granted I have to occasionally use the "help" function on the One since sometimes the amp won't come on with the one button push, but this is not unusual as the same thing happens with my other Harmony 665 on a separate system. The TV has always shown video when it's turned on. I don't use ARC/CEC. So, I'm wondering what the issue is and why mine is working fine, will a firmware update really address this issue? |
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Post by foggy1956 on Mar 22, 2022 11:33:10 GMT -5
As far as waiting for a firmware update goes, I must admit I am getting close to the end of my rope. I do not understand why Emo cannot give us some idea as to what to expect in regards to when an update will be released. I don't mean an exact date. Maybe which quarter of this year or the next. Something!! The issue I had previously of no video when first turning on the tv after everything has been off for several hours or overnight seems to be happening more often. The RMC is set for Video Remains On and I make sure to watch tv before turning everything off. When I turn the tv on again, especially overnight, the video sometimes does not come on. I just push the button on the RMC remote that corresponds with the tv's input and the video comes on. This is with the RMC in Standby mode. This is no big deal for me (although the function should work as it is supposed too) but other family members are not happy when this happens. This will be my last post complaining about a lack of info concerning a firmware update. I promise. Regards to all! I don't understand this issue. I use VRO and have never lost video on turn on. We use two different remotes....my wife tends to use the Directv remote which is programmed to turn on the HR44 and the TV. That always works. I tend to use the Harmony One which turns the TV on along with the Emotiva XPA-5 amp. Granted I have to occasionally use the "help" function on the One since sometimes the amp won't come on with the one button push, but this is not unusual as the same thing happens with my other Harmony 665 on a separate system. The TV has always shown video when it's turned on. I don't use ARC/CEC. So, I'm wondering what the issue is and why mine is working fine, will a firmware update really address this issue? I have the issue with a firecube occasionally, no arc/cec and VRO also. |
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Post by cawgijoe on Mar 22, 2022 12:08:29 GMT -5
I don't understand this issue. I use VRO and have never lost video on turn on. We use two different remotes....my wife tends to use the Directv remote which is programmed to turn on the HR44 and the TV. That always works. I tend to use the Harmony One which turns the TV on along with the Emotiva XPA-5 amp. Granted I have to occasionally use the "help" function on the One since sometimes the amp won't come on with the one button push, but this is not unusual as the same thing happens with my other Harmony 665 on a separate system. The TV has always shown video when it's turned on. I don't use ARC/CEC. So, I'm wondering what the issue is and why mine is working fine, will a firmware update really address this issue? I have the issue with a firecube occasionally, no arc/cec and VRO also. I'll add that this does not occur with the Apple TV4K either, but I also have it set to default to Directv on turn-on. |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 22, 2022 13:31:56 GMT -5
As far as waiting for a firmware update goes, I must admit I am getting close to the end of my rope. I do not understand why Emo cannot give us some idea as to what to expect in regards to when an update will be released. I don't mean an exact date. Maybe which quarter of this year or the next. Something!! The issue I had previously of no video when first turning on the tv after everything has been off for several hours or overnight seems to be happening more often. The RMC is set for Video Remains On and I make sure to watch tv before turning everything off. When I turn the tv on again, especially overnight, the video sometimes does not come on. I just push the button on the RMC remote that corresponds with the tv's input and the video comes on. This is with the RMC in Standby mode. This is no big deal for me (although the function should work as it is supposed too) but other family members are not happy when this happens. This will be my last post complaining about a lack of info concerning a firmware update. I promise. Regards to all! I don't understand this issue. I use VRO and have never lost video on turn on. We use two different remotes....my wife tends to use the Directv remote which is programmed to turn on the HR44 and the TV. That always works. I tend to use the Harmony One which turns the TV on along with the Emotiva XPA-5 amp. Granted I have to occasionally use the "help" function on the One since sometimes the amp won't come on with the one button push, but this is not unusual as the same thing happens with my other Harmony 665 on a separate system. The TV has always shown video when it's turned on. I don't use ARC/CEC. So, I'm wondering what the issue is and why mine is working fine, will a firmware update really address this issue? Don't know where to place the blame, if any, here. The issue is intermittent. I also have never used ARC/CEC. The RMC is in Standby mode when it happens. The Turn On input is HDMI 1 which is the input the tv cable box (Fios) is connected to. If the video does not come on in Standby mode, I can get the video signal by pressing button #1 on the Emo remote. I assure you that when I have turned the tv off, I made sure that the RMC was set to the tv's HDMI input. There is no problem if I power on the RMC. The turn on input is for the tv so everything comes on as it should. It is only when the RMC is in Standby and I use the tv that this occasionally happens. I have put the RMC in Lowest Power and powered down and back up again to see if this would shake out any cobwebs. Will see how that goes. Don't know of course if a firmware update would fix this issue but I believe that new firmware is needed to make sure these processors stay relevant. There are also other issues/processes that could be improved with new firmware. I just believe it would help the units to perform better. Best Regards. |
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Post by cawgijoe on Mar 22, 2022 13:53:21 GMT -5
I don't understand this issue. I use VRO and have never lost video on turn on. We use two different remotes....my wife tends to use the Directv remote which is programmed to turn on the HR44 and the TV. That always works. I tend to use the Harmony One which turns the TV on along with the Emotiva XPA-5 amp. Granted I have to occasionally use the "help" function on the One since sometimes the amp won't come on with the one button push, but this is not unusual as the same thing happens with my other Harmony 665 on a separate system. The TV has always shown video when it's turned on. I don't use ARC/CEC. So, I'm wondering what the issue is and why mine is working fine, will a firmware update really address this issue? Don't know where to place the blame, if any, here. The issue is intermittent. I also have never used ARC/CEC. The RMC is in Standby mode when it happens. The Turn On input is HDMI 1 which is the input the tv cable box (Fios) is connected to. If the video does not come on in Standby mode, I can get the video signal by pressing button #1 on the Emo remote. I assure you that when I have turned the tv off, I made sure that the RMC was set to the tv's HDMI input. There is no problem if I power on the RMC. The turn on input is for the tv so everything comes on as it should. It is only when the RMC is in Standby and I use the tv that this occasionally happens. I have put the RMC in Lowest Power and powered down and back up again to see if this would shake out any cobwebs. Will see how that goes. Don't know of course if a firmware update would fix this issue but I believe that new firmware is needed to make sure these processors stay relevant. There are also other issues/processes that could be improved with new firmware. I just believe it would help the units to perform better. Best Regards. Ok...weird....so the RMC-1 is in VRO...everything is "off"....you hit the FIOS remote....assume the FIOS remote turns the FIOS box on as well as the TV....and the FIOS box comes on, but the TV does not...or does the TV come on and there is no picture? In my system, the Directv remote turns the TV on as well as the HR44 (Directv) box and the picture always comes on. Unfortunately I only have FIOS Internet so I can't test it here. Well, I'm stumped....sorry, I hope somebody else here may have an explanation that makes sense...I'm really curious as to why this is happening....almost like to have to "double-tap" to get video, like the signal needs a boost. Edit: Yes, new firmware is needed to address the bass issues, clicks and pops if you are experiencing any of that, firmware for any new modules, if/when released....just like any other computer based gear that we own, firmware updates are a fact of life. |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 22, 2022 14:31:51 GMT -5
The sequence you describe is correct. The Fios cable box is connected to my RMC-1 via HDMI cable to input 1. The signal is then sent from the RMC to the tv via HDMI cable. No ARC or CEC is running. The tv audio out is connected to a sound bar for audio when no using the RMC audio processing. Since there is no picture, the only way I know that the cable box has come on is when I start getting audio from the sound bar. As soon as I select the appropriate HDMI output the tv's video comes on as it should. I want to stress again that when I turned the tv off the input that was being used or at the very least selected was the one for the tv. The RMC is always in VRO mode.
So, to put this to bed, since it is an intermittent problem I am not sure that sofware would help or even if there is a hardware problem. Maybe something I am overlooking but I certainly cannot figure that out. Will live with it for now.
Take care.
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Post by LCSeminole on Mar 22, 2022 16:22:56 GMT -5
The sequence you describe is correct. The Fios cable box is connected to my RMC-1 via HDMI cable to input 1. The signal is then sent from the RMC to the tv via HDMI cable. No ARC or CEC is running. The tv audio out is connected to a sound bar for audio when no using the RMC audio processing. Since there is no picture, the only way I know that the cable box has come on is when I start getting audio from the sound bar. As soon as I select the appropriate HDMI output the tv's video comes on as it should. I want to stress again that when I turned the tv off the input that was being used or at the very least selected was the one for the tv. The RMC is always in VRO mode. So, to put this to bed, since it is an intermittent problem I am not sure that sofware would help or even if there is a hardware problem. Maybe something I am overlooking but I certainly cannot figure that out. Will live with it for now. Take care. Have you watched the video I posted in the link below? emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/59750/hdmi-cec-arc-fix-video |
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Post by audiobill on Mar 22, 2022 16:38:32 GMT -5
338 pages on this thread….is that a record?
Don’t know how you guys can do it, some kind of endurance contest, or forever beta testers…?
Maybe Emo needs a new design engineer; the existing guy must be worn out…..either that or none of this is a mature technology.
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Post by Lsc on Mar 22, 2022 17:01:03 GMT -5
338 pages on this thread….is that a record? Don’t know how you guys can do it, some kind of endurance contest, or forever beta testers…? Maybe Emo needs a new design engineer; the existing guy must be worn out…..either that or none of this is a mature technology. And this is post firmware 1.10! 338 pages and we are on fw v2.5. And yes I had volunteered to be a beta tester and am glad to give my time. I plan on being a beta tester until the XMC2 is out of my system which means at least for a few more years. |
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Post by marcl on Mar 22, 2022 17:09:21 GMT -5
I've been a beta tester for photography software for several years. I will just say that not all beta programs are created equal. I wish Emotiva managed releases and user bug reports the way this other company does.
But it was not always so. I first started using DxO software in 2006 and within a few months they released the huge and revolutionary version 5.0 ... which was so broken it took years for them to tear out all the hopelessly mangled functions, maintain the core technology, and recreate the excellent product that they have had for the past several years. So lessons can be learned.
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Post by audiobill on Mar 22, 2022 17:18:34 GMT -5
Maybe add to the product page “world record length user blog” ?
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Post by Lsc on Mar 22, 2022 17:30:26 GMT -5
Maybe add to the product page “world record length user blog” ? Maybe you can add to your signature- “I don’t know why I’m here except to be a troll” 😬 |
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Post by Thunderduck on Mar 22, 2022 19:17:55 GMT -5
The sequence you describe is correct. The Fios cable box is connected to my RMC-1 via HDMI cable to input 1. The signal is then sent from the RMC to the tv via HDMI cable. No ARC or CEC is running. The tv audio out is connected to a sound bar for audio when no using the RMC audio processing. Since there is no picture, the only way I know that the cable box has come on is when I start getting audio from the sound bar. As soon as I select the appropriate HDMI output the tv's video comes on as it should. I want to stress again that when I turned the tv off the input that was being used or at the very least selected was the one for the tv. The RMC is always in VRO mode. So, to put this to bed, since it is an intermittent problem I am not sure that sofware would help or even if there is a hardware problem. Maybe something I am overlooking but I certainly cannot figure that out. Will live with it for now. Take care. Have you watched the video I posted in the link below? emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/59750/hdmi-cec-arc-fix-videoWill take a look but since I do not use either CEC or ARC don't know how much good it will do. Thanks! |
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Post by audiobill on Mar 22, 2022 19:20:01 GMT -5
Maybe add to the product page “world record length user blog” ? Maybe you can add to your signature- “I don’t know why I’m here except to be a troll” 😬 Good idea, I’ll check back in a year or two to see if progress has been made 😉 |
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