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Post by krauley on Nov 17, 2020 19:10:32 GMT -5
live.dirac.com/download/ Latest version: 3.0.11 read changelog Previous versions Improved usability Refreshed, modern user interface that features a simplified setup procedure Enhanced Phase Correction algorithm for improved stereo reproduction Supported Platforms: Windows 10, MacOS Mojave, MacOS Catalina Supported Brands: ARCAM, AudioControl, Bryston, Focal, Emotiva, JBL, JBL Synthesis, Lexicon, miniDSP, NAD, StormAudio and Monoprice
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Post by hsamwel on Nov 18, 2020 11:39:34 GMT -5
I could swear by it that Dirac 3.0.11 with the new filter calculations do sound better..
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Post by krauley on Nov 18, 2020 11:43:05 GMT -5
I could swear by it that Dirac 3.0.11 with the new filter calculations do sound better.. I still waiting for the next Emo firmware on my XMC-2 until i do any more dirac runs
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Post by marcl on Nov 18, 2020 12:50:11 GMT -5
I could swear by it that Dirac 3.0.11 with the new filter calculations do sound better.. Never fails ... always the day AFTER I do a calibration. But I'll download and let it recalculate the filters. Very sparse release notes this time.
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Post by rhale64 on Nov 18, 2020 13:12:31 GMT -5
I am trying to wait on Emo and another firmware. But if more people do the update and have positive things to say I will certainly go ahead and do it ahead of time. I love how mine sounds now. Can't imagine stereo being any better. But if it is I am all in.
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Post by hsamwel on Nov 18, 2020 15:55:06 GMT -5
I felt voices, instruments and placement of them was even clearer.
One thing though.. Could be mistaken but it seems to be βmoreβ bass than ever.. Not bad bass, just more! With some music and movies I now feel Harman 4db is almost too much. If that is even possible?
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Post by hsamwel on Nov 18, 2020 15:59:18 GMT -5
I could swear by it that Dirac 3.0.11 with the new filter calculations do sound better.. I still waiting for the next Emo firmware on my XMC-2 until i do any more dirac runs I took my saved 3.0.9 measurements, did a recalculate. Then sent the new filters to my RMC-1. No need for new measurements if nothing in the room has changed.
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Post by marcl on Nov 18, 2020 16:24:06 GMT -5
I still waiting for the next Emo firmware on my XMC-2 until i do any more dirac runs I took my saved 3.0.9 measurements, did a recalculate. Then sent the new filters to my RMC-1. No need for new measurements if nothing in the room has changed. I had done a full set of measurements with 3.0.9. I opened the project again with 3.0.11 and let it recalculate. Then I did another set of measurements. They were essentially identical, maybe with a slight difference in the subwoofer channel. Sounds excellent!
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Post by richter250 on Nov 18, 2020 19:43:56 GMT -5
So... with Dirac 3.0.11... Do we need to do new measurements if nothing has changed in the setup or just recalculate the filters? What do you guys think?
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Post by rhale64 on Nov 18, 2020 19:59:32 GMT -5
So... with Dirac 3.0.11... Do we need to do new measurements if nothing has changed in the setup or just recalculate the filters? What do you guys think? Apparently recalculate is all we need to do. I can do that tomorrow. Think I may give it a go.
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Post by LCSeminole on Nov 18, 2020 20:08:35 GMT -5
So... with Dirac 3.0.11... Do we need to do new measurements if nothing has changed in the setup or just recalculate the filters? What do you guys think? I'll recalculate and load it. Since I've loaded the last two re-calculation filter sets from v3.0.9 and v3.0.5, I'll compare the v3.0.11 calculated filters and see if I can hear any differences.
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Post by zealott on Nov 19, 2020 2:39:31 GMT -5
Hi, I have a dedicates HT room with XMC-2 and XPA-1βs and XPA-5, B&W802D for fronts. I previously had XMC-1 with Dirac that gave really good sound. With XMC-2 and Dirac Live, I struggle with a sound that is off-center. Room and speakers are measured precisely, all levels are 0 and gives a good centered sound uncalibrated. Single point runs in center position consistently centers favoring the right speaker, and I have to reduse the right speaker level by 4dB to get it somehow centered again. All measurements with 2.0 setup and EMM-1 mic with calibration file downloaded. I have tried changing speaker placement and also moved the mic forward, backwards. Any ideas or tips? So, after a couple of support discussion with Emotiva and Dirac directly, I figured this out. It turns out that the EMM-1 mic that was supplied with my XMC-2 recorded some high frequency stuff that messed up the impulse data. I borrowed a UMIK-1 and behold, all is fine. I ordered my own UMIK-1 now.
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Post by tcoble3 on Nov 19, 2020 12:57:23 GMT -5
It's been a while since I originally ran Dirac Live, so before I dive back in to make some adjustments I wanted to do a quick reality check on a couple of items. Apologies, I readily admit that these are rookie questions:
1. I originally applied the 6dB Harman curve, but would now like to remove it. Is there a simple way to do so that doesn't involve re-running all 17 sweeps?
2. My current Dirac-generated settings are ideal for movies, but not so great for music. I know I can set up a separate preset/mode for music listening (L/R front, possibly subs), but am unclear as to how that's best done. Again, can I use my original measurements or will I need to run a new set of sweeps on just the speakers that I want to include in the new preset?
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Post by geebo on Nov 19, 2020 13:13:36 GMT -5
It's been a while since I originally ran Dirac Live, so before I dive back in to make some adjustments I wanted to do a quick reality check on a couple of items. Apologies, I readily admit that these are rookie questions: 1. I originally applied the 6dB Harman curve, but would now like to remove it. Is there a simple way to do so that doesn't involve re-running all 17 sweeps? 2. My current Dirac-generated settings are ideal for movies, but not so great for music. I know I can set up a separate preset/mode for music listening (L/R front, possibly subs), but am unclear as to how that's best done. Again, can I use my original measurements or will I need to run a new set of sweeps on just the speakers that I want to include in the new preset? No need to rerun measurements. Just load up your last saved project and change the target curves to whatever you like for music and load it into a slot. Then do it again and modify the targets for movies and load into a different slot.
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Post by tcoble3 on Nov 19, 2020 21:18:23 GMT -5
No need to rerun measurements. Just load up your last saved project and change the target curves to whatever you like for music and load it into a slot. Then do it again and modify the targets for movies and load into a different slot. Fantastic! Thank you. Follow-up question: I've got the second target set up and saved to a different slot. (Thanks for helping me get that far.) Since I use a specific source/input for listening to music (in this case, HDMI 5), I've been assuming that I'd configure HDMI 5 to switch to Preset 2, and then associate that preset with the desired Dirac curve/slot. (Per the XMC-2 user manual: "Each Input on the XMC-2 can be configured to use either of the two Presets, or the results of the Dirac Live Automatic Room Correction.") But when I configure HDMI 5 to use Preset 2, the Dirac menu option displays as "Not Available". Do I have to do something differently from within Dirac Live to make it available to Preset 2? Is there a better way than using the Presets to set up a single HDMI input to use a different Dirac curve/slot? And on a related note, is there any way to do a "Save As" of the Preset 1 settings (distances, levels, etc.) to copy them over to Preset 2 as a starting point? Thanks again.
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Post by geebo on Nov 19, 2020 22:13:25 GMT -5
Follow-up question: I've got the second target set up and saved to a different slot. (Thanks for helping me get that far.) Since I use a specific source/input for listening to music (in this case, HDMI 5), I've been assuming that I'd configure HDMI 5 to switch to Preset 2, and then associate that preset with the desired Dirac curve/slot. (Per the XMC-2 user manual: "Each Input on the XMC-2 can be configured to use either of the two Presets, or the results of the Dirac Live Automatic Room Correction.") But when I configure HDMI 5 to use Preset 2, the Dirac menu option displays as "Not Available". Do I have to do something differently from within Dirac Live to make it available to Preset 2? Is there a better way than using the Presets to set up a single HDMI input to use a different Dirac curve/slot? And on a related note, is there any way to do a "Save As" of the Preset 1 settings (distances, levels, etc.) to copy them over to Preset 2 as a starting point? Thanks again. To select a Dirac filter set for either preset you need to go into "Equalization", not "Dirac" in the speaker preset menu. "Dirac" is only for CREATING filters. To load a project into a different preset than it was created for, the second preset has to have the same speaker configuration as the first. Otherwise you'll have to run the measurement process for the second preset. Dirac will only work with the preset that's active when you enable Dirac but if both presets have the same speaker configuration then you can load a saved project into either preset. Just make sure the one you want to work with is active when you enable Dirac.
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Post by ttocs on Nov 19, 2020 22:26:10 GMT -5
And on a related note, is there any way to do a "Save As" of the Preset 1 settings (distances, levels, etc.) to copy them over to Preset 2 as a starting point? Thanks again. The direct answer is no. The clarification is that Dirac ignores Distance in the processor. When a Dirac Slot is active, Distance will not even show up as a selection. Processor Speaker Levels should be left at 0.0dB in the processor. These WILL have an effect but not the same as when User is the active Slot. Dirac levels everything and ignores any level set previous to running Dirac. So if the level for a channel is set to -12dB and a Dirac Filter Slot is active, then that channel will be -12dB less volume.
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Post by hsamwel on Nov 20, 2020 0:47:27 GMT -5
It's been a while since I originally ran Dirac Live, so before I dive back in to make some adjustments I wanted to do a quick reality check on a couple of items. Apologies, I readily admit that these are rookie questions: 1. I originally applied the 6dB Harman curve, but would now like to remove it. Is there a simple way to do so that doesn't involve re-running all 17 sweeps? 2. My current Dirac-generated settings are ideal for movies, but not so great for music. I know I can set up a separate preset/mode for music listening (L/R front, possibly subs), but am unclear as to how that's best done. Again, can I use my original measurements or will I need to run a new set of sweeps on just the speakers that I want to include in the new preset? 1. Just reload your project and apply another target curve. You will have to do some adjustments to the curtains and high/low end drop off of course. 2. Thereβs no difference in how Dirac handles stereo or multi channel. You will get the same sound either way. Unless you use different curves of course.
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Post by marcl on Nov 20, 2020 7:32:13 GMT -5
All the pieces are correct, but maybe I can run down the whole process concisely for anyone who hasn't followed the whole thread. Problem: You have a set of Dirac filters loaded in Preset 1. You would like to make those filters available in Preset 2, but with a different set of target curves than in Preset 1. You would like Preset 1 to be associated with one input (i.e. Video sources) and Preset 2 associated with another input for music sources. 1 - As ttocs says, Dirac ignores Distance settings completely. Level settings are ignored by Dirac, but they are applied to the Preset when in use. You can't directly copy all of Preset 1 settings (including Dirac filters) to Preset 2. 2 - Set up Preset 2 exactly like Preset 1 ... for Speaker Size only! Ignore Distance, and set all Levels to 0.0. Be sure you have all the same speakers configured in Preset 2 as with Preset 1, even if you don't intend to use them all (more on this later). 3 - In Preset 2, Enable Dirac, and open the Dirac app on your PC. Go to Load Project, and load the project for Preset 1 that you had previously saved. Go to Save Project As, and save the project with a name that you will use for Preset 2. 4 - You now have a copy of the Preset 1 Dirac Project loaded, but you are now working on Preset 2. Modify your Target Curves and finish filter design. Go to Export Filters, pick a Slot associated with Preset 2, and save filters. Filters will now be saved to Preset 2 in the processor. Save the project. 5 - Disable Dirac in the processor. You will see that the current Slot selected in Equalization in Preset 2 is the Dirac filter set that you just loaded. 6 - Configure your inputs to default to the appropriate Preset for video and music. 7 - If you want the speaker configuration for Preset 2 to include fewer speakers than in Preset 1 (e.g. maybe no subwoofer for Preset 2), you can now go to Speaker Size in Preset 2 and disable any speaker you don't want to use. Just remember, if you want to go back later and make changes to the Dirac Slot in Preset 2, you must re-enable the speakers so they are identical to Preset 1. p.s. When you set up the different Target Curves for music in Preset 2, Dirac will save them with the project. You should also save these Target Curves themselves in addition to having saved the Target Curves for Preset 1. The somewhat cumbersome part is, Dirac does not give you a way to load all Target Curves at once. You have to load them individually for each Speaker Group. Next time you do a Dirac calibration with new measurements (presumably starting with Preset 1), when you load that set of measurements to use for Preset 2, you will have to reload the Preset 2 Target Curves. p.p.s. This is exactly how I do Dirac calibrations every time. I happen to use the same Target Curves for both Presets, so whenever I do a new Dirac calibration I start with Preset 1, download filters, disable Dirac, go to Preset 2, enable Dirac, load the just-saved project, download filters to Preset 2. I use Preset 1 for Video with Center Sub=LFE. I use Preset 2 for Music with Center Sub=None. My ATV4K and OPPO BD player HDMI inputs which I use for video default to Preset 1. My PC HDMI input from which I play music defaults to Preset 2. If I play a CD/SACD on the OPPO player I manually switch to Preset 2. p.p.p.s. To the question of copying Preset 1 to Preset 2, there is a way to do this ... for everything EXCEPT the Dirac filters ... and only if you're comfortable using an XML text editor (like EditPad Lite). Go to Settings>Advanced and Backup Settings to a USB stick. Open the avrUserLocal file, find the section with Preset 1 configuration, copy and paste it into the Preset 2 section. Restore Settings from the USB stick.
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Post by motogp34 on Nov 20, 2020 22:55:18 GMT -5
Emotiva Dirac vid says, Master volume at -37.5db and Mic volume at +10.1db. Is this correct ? And the green lines don't show up on my version ??
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