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Post by gentlejax on Aug 21, 2020 14:03:02 GMT -5
looking for something used and not so pretty or pretty cheap that I can see about modifying...a pt-100 would be perfect
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Post by teaman on Aug 21, 2020 14:28:39 GMT -5
Personally I'd go with a Sherbourn PT-7020A or something. Excellent sounding pre/pros that run less than $200 in most cases. Full XLR inputs and outputs too. At least to me, way better build quality than the new Emo. Plus balanced inputs sound amazing!
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Post by garbulky on Aug 21, 2020 15:41:37 GMT -5
Personally I'd go with a Sherbourn PT-7020A or something. Excellent sounding pre/pros that run less than $200 in most cases. Full XLR inputs and outputs too. At least to me, way better build quality than the new Emo. Plus balanced inputs sound amazing! What's the difference between the 7020A and the 7020C?
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Post by teaman on Aug 21, 2020 16:35:18 GMT -5
Personally I'd go with a Sherbourn PT-7020A or something. Excellent sounding pre/pros that run less than $200 in most cases. Full XLR inputs and outputs too. At least to me, way better build quality than the new Emo. Plus balanced inputs sound amazing! What's the difference between the 7020A and the 7020C? Hey Gar, the C4 basically offers the additional, non functional Control 4 option. The C4 model is also a lot larger than the A model. I think outside of that, the models are nearly identical. The 7030 is a step up from what I hear, but has a cheaper plastic remote, where these beasts have the metal clubs...which double to fend off intruders. Going Full XLR from my ERC-2 and ERC-3 into this Sherbourn, then on to my XPA-1's sounds amazing! Tim
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Post by creimes on Aug 21, 2020 17:12:02 GMT -5
I remember about 4 years back when Emotiva sold some NIB 7020C4 they "Found" for $189 on their Ebay store, I bought 4 haha, some for buddies and one for me and for some stupid ass reason I ended up selling it at some point, why did I not just box it up and keep it is beyond me, seriously $189 for a brand new 7020C4 what a ridiculous deal that was.
Chad
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Post by vcautokid on Aug 21, 2020 23:38:37 GMT -5
An interesting choice. Are you planning multi-channel audio in the future? Is it Stereo only? Do you need the built in power amplifier stage? The TA-100. Or are just looking at a straight ahead 2 channel Stereo Preamplifier. You are kind of considering 3 different purposes of use. Processor Preamplifier you pay for video switching and passthrough, and multiple audio formats. Dolby Digital Dts etc. Do you need those features yes/no? That would be the MC-700. If you don't need all those channels and video switching and audio formats and is 2 channel only why pay for the extra cost of the MC-700? Already have a good 2 channel power amplifier? A PT-100 is a fine 2 channel Stereo Preamplifier. Or if you need a 2 channel Preamplifier and Amplifier in one. Buy the TA-100 integrated amplifier and you are good to go. Not very clear what the current gear compliment is and or your intent. So just guessing here.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 22, 2020 14:17:35 GMT -5
What's the difference between the 7020A and the 7020C? Hey Gar, the C4 basically offers the additional, non functional Control 4 option. The C4 model is also a lot larger than the A model. I think outside of that, the models are nearly identical. The 7030 is a step up from what I hear, but has a cheaper plastic remote, where these beasts have the metal clubs...which double to fend off intruders. Going Full XLR from my ERC-2 and ERC-3 into this Sherbourn, then on to my XPA-1's sounds amazing! Tim Wow had no idea these had XLR outputs on them?! Can't believe their sell out price. What a deal. Do you know if they have fully balanced circuitry?
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Post by garbulky on Aug 22, 2020 15:11:32 GMT -5
looking for something used and not so pretty or pretty cheap that I can see about modifying...a pt-100 would be perfect I would call the PT-100 a DAC/preamp and the TA-100 a stereo dac/reamp with integrated amp. Processors more traditionally refer to multichannel dac/preamps that don't have amps on them. I'm not sure exactly why they are called processors. I'm guessing it's because they decode multichannel codecs like Dolby and DTS.
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Post by teaman on Aug 23, 2020 15:19:26 GMT -5
Hey Gar, the C4 basically offers the additional, non functional Control 4 option. The C4 model is also a lot larger than the A model. I think outside of that, the models are nearly identical. The 7030 is a step up from what I hear, but has a cheaper plastic remote, where these beasts have the metal clubs...which double to fend off intruders. Going Full XLR from my ERC-2 and ERC-3 into this Sherbourn, then on to my XPA-1's sounds amazing! Tim Wow had no idea these had XLR outputs on them?! Can't believe their sell out price. What a deal. Do you know if they have fully balanced circuitry? www.ecoustics.com/products/sherbourn-pt-7020c4-home-theater-preamplifierprocessor/
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Post by mathwizard on Aug 24, 2020 14:23:33 GMT -5
I have a UMC-200 in excellent condition for $300 plus shipping i you are interested.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 24, 2020 20:43:09 GMT -5
From the website, it looks like these are fully balanced?! "balanced XLR inputs and outputs"
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Post by teaman on Aug 25, 2020 15:43:14 GMT -5
From the website, it looks like these are fully balanced?! "balanced XLR inputs and outputs" I believe so Gar, all I can say is they are amazing sounding pre/pros. Whether you are using them as a two channel preamp or surround HT processor, the chip set in here are amazing.
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Post by creimes on Aug 25, 2020 22:17:08 GMT -5
From the website, it looks like these are fully balanced?! "balanced XLR inputs and outputs" I believe so Gar, all I can say is they are amazing sounding pre/pros. Whether you are using them as a two channel preamp or surround HT processor, the chip set in here are amazing. Yeah but how would you know, do you actually even own one
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Post by garbulky on Aug 25, 2020 22:27:16 GMT -5
I believe so Gar, all I can say is they are amazing sounding pre/pros. Whether you are using them as a two channel preamp or surround HT processor, the chip set in here are amazing. Yeah but how would you know, do you actually even own one He definitely does not own.... one
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 26, 2020 8:04:01 GMT -5
Lots of folks base audio "goodness" on specifications rather than audition. I'm not one of them. SOME things I've bought that had good specs also sounded good - the Audio-gd HE-1 preamplifier is an example. But I've also been burned on things with amazing specs that sounded really bad - a prime example would be the 1970's Technics stereo receiver with 0.00001% THD (achieved with BRUTAL amounts of negative feedback) that sounded as brittle as glass. So be careful with measurements - they can be REALLY deceitful.
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Post by gentlejax on Aug 26, 2020 8:18:25 GMT -5
I think I will look for a sherbourn for cheap good backup to the pt-100 I am using.
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