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Post by Hair Nick on Aug 27, 2020 13:55:21 GMT -5
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Post by rbk123 on Aug 28, 2020 8:04:19 GMT -5
Looks very impressive for the price. Very nice.
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Post by gus4emo on Aug 28, 2020 11:19:22 GMT -5
Hi Nick, great looking and specs....question, how to connect it to an older stereo receiver which only has speaker level outputs, I see the sub has those inputs but no high level outputs, would an rca to speaker adapter be needed? |
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Post by martindktm on Aug 29, 2020 5:49:51 GMT -5
Hi Nick, great looking and specs....question, how to connect it to an older stereo receiver which only has speaker level outputs, I see the sub has those inputs but no high level outputs, would an rca to speaker adapter be needed?
Looks like it has high level input from the pictures..
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Post by garbulky on Aug 29, 2020 7:05:45 GMT -5
Hair Nick So...is the SE12 a step above the basx line but a little below the RS line? Or are they the same as the RS line? How does the SErelate to the S subwoofer?
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Post by gus4emo on Aug 29, 2020 7:41:28 GMT -5
Hi Nick, great looking and specs....question, how to connect it to an older stereo receiver which only has speaker level outputs, I see the sub has those inputs but no high level outputs, would an rca to speaker adapter be needed?
Looks like it has high level input from the pictures..
But high level outputs... |
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Post by unsound on Aug 29, 2020 15:09:44 GMT -5
Not sure exactly what you want, but you could connect your preamp to the sub and then route the high-pass output to your stereo receiver to power the speakers. Given that you have a stereo receiver you may not have a preamp, in which case you could connect the source to the sub. But, you would have volume control issues.
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Post by gus4emo on Aug 30, 2020 10:43:02 GMT -5
Hi Nick, great looking and specs....question, how to connect it to an older stereo receiver which only has speaker level outputs, I see the sub has those inputs but no high level outputs, would an rca to speaker adapter be needed? Helloooooo... |
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Post by vcautokid on Aug 30, 2020 10:45:49 GMT -5
Looks like a good 'un. Money is right too! What else do you need??
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Post by gus4emo on Aug 31, 2020 11:11:24 GMT -5
Not sure exactly what you want, but you could connect your preamp to the sub and then route the high-pass output to your stereo receiver to power the speakers. Given that you have a stereo receiver you may not have a preamp, in which case you could connect the source to the sub. But, you would have volume control issues. There are many subs with speaker level in/out, for those with older receivers, I see the ins, but it has rca outs, so rca to speaker adapter would be needed.... |
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Post by ttocs on Aug 31, 2020 11:37:09 GMT -5
Not sure exactly what you want, but you could connect your preamp to the sub and then route the high-pass output to your stereo receiver to power the speakers. Given that you have a stereo receiver you may not have a preamp, in which case you could connect the source to the sub. But, you would have volume control issues. There are many subs with speaker level in/out, for those with older receivers, I see the ins, but it has rca outs, so rca to speaker adapter would be needed.... Not meant to be amplified outs direct to other speakers. See pages 15 and 18 in the manual showing output to a external power amp/speakers. |
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Post by gus4emo on Aug 31, 2020 13:38:16 GMT -5
There are many subs with speaker level in/out, for those with older receivers, I see the ins, but it has rca outs, so rca to speaker adapter would be needed.... Not meant to be amplified outs direct to other speakers. See pages 15 and 18 in the manual showing output to a external power amp/speakers. So why speaker ins and no speaker outs? |
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Post by pedrocols on Aug 31, 2020 13:46:29 GMT -5
Not meant to be amplified outs direct to other speakers. See pages 15 and 18 in the manual showing output to a external power amp/speakers. So why speaker ins and no speaker outs? Maybe just like with REL subwoofers so they can get the same line level signal than the main speakers? |
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Post by ttocs on Aug 31, 2020 14:43:48 GMT -5
Not meant to be amplified outs direct to other speakers. See pages 15 and 18 in the manual showing output to a external power amp/speakers. So why speaker ins and no speaker outs? There are no speaker outs because the subwoofer has no amplifier for other speakers. The one channel built-in amplifier is for the "heavy duty long throw downward firing powered driver". The sub also has a passive radiator that is not powered. So, You can use the "High Level" inputs which are loosely referred to as "speaker level" inputs which are wired to the speaker outputs of an amplifier or receiver. Or, You can use the "Stereo Line Level" inputs from the Line Level Outputs of a preamp. Then, if you want to, you may use the "Line Level Outputs" to connect to an amplifier that powers other speakers. Further, if this subwoofer is like my Rel and Sumiko subwoofers, you can use the LFE input concurrently with the High Level or Stereo Line Level input. Can't use the High Level and Line Level inputs at the same time. So to clarify, the LFE and High Level can be used simultaneously, or the LFE and Line Level can be used simultaneously. |
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Post by gus4emo on Aug 31, 2020 20:30:05 GMT -5
So why speaker ins and no speaker outs? There are no speaker outs because the subwoofer has no amplifier for other speakers. The one channel built-in amplifier is for the "heavy duty long throw downward firing powered driver". The sub also has a passive radiator that is not powered. So, You can use the "High Level" inputs which are loosely referred to as "speaker level" inputs which are wired to the speaker outputs of an amplifier or receiver. Or, You can use the "Stereo Line Level" inputs from the Line Level Outputs of a preamp. Then, if you want to, you may use the "Line Level Outputs" to connect to an amplifier that powers other speakers. Further, if this subwoofer is like my Rel and Sumiko subwoofers, you can use the LFE input concurrently with the High Level or Stereo Line Level input. Can't use the High Level and Line Level inputs at the same time. So to clarify, the LFE and High Level can be used simultaneously, or the LFE and Line Level can be used simultaneously. Subs with speaker line outs will send the filtered signal that is already amplified by the original receiver... |
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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 2, 2020 5:21:32 GMT -5
A fine product - but I'd like to see a renewed BasX subwoofer line! In fact, if Emotiva wanted to save $$$ on their BasX subs, just omit the plate amp, offer an external crossover, & let users power the subs with better external amps.
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Post by rbk123 on Sept 2, 2020 8:44:52 GMT -5
Subs with speaker line outs will send the filtered signal that is already amplified by the original receiver... Yes, but if that speaker line out (from the sub) goes into a set of speakers, you are now cascading crossovers. Typically it's better to use a splitter to the sub and to the speakers so they get the signal in parallel, but then impedance may change. A DSP addresses both of those challenges. |
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Post by rbk123 on Sept 2, 2020 8:47:22 GMT -5
A fine product - but I'd like to see a renewed BasX subwoofer line! In fact, if Emotiva wanted to save $$$ on their BasX subs, just omit the plate amp, offer an external crossover, & let users power the subs with better external amps. Agree with this. No one makes un-powered subs anymore, which is why people end up DIY'ing and ending up with a better product. |
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Post by gus4emo on Sept 2, 2020 9:02:05 GMT -5
Subs with speaker line outs will send the filtered signal that is already amplified by the original receiver... Yes, but if that speaker line out (from the sub) goes into a set of speakers, you are now cascading crossovers. Typically it's better to use a splitter to the sub and to the speakers so they get the signal in parallel, but then impedance may change. A DSP addresses both of those challenges. But the crossover will send frequencies to where they go, like 80 and up to the speakers, at least that is what other subs do... |
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Post by rbk123 on Sept 2, 2020 9:55:38 GMT -5
Correct, but now that "crossover'ed" signal enters another crossover for the speakers, hence the cascading.
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