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Post by creimes on Oct 20, 2020 20:06:38 GMT -5
Even though I really really enjoyed my T1's I felt like it was time for a change so the T1's are sold and I'm highly considering the new 700 series from Jon over at Chane Music & Cinema, looking heavily at the 753 for L&R and the 752 for my center, the few people that have them so far really like them(like that matters) but the 753 are a 3 way full range tower using three 8" Scan Speak woofers, a 6.5" paper cone midrange and 18-Sound Compression Driver with a pure Titanium diaphragm, proprietary hybrid radial phase plug, custom damped rear chamber, inside of a custom cast aluminum non-diffraction Horn.
Order is in with Chane, I'll be receiving three of the 753 towers via LTL shipping
You can read Jon's post HEREA review of the 752 HERESpecs are as follows taken form Jon's post on the Chane Forum: Model 752 2-way, large three driver left-center-right (LCR) speaker with MTM driver arrayAcoustical type – double sealed 8” midbass Treble system – 1” exit compression driver, 34mm titanium diaphragm with ellipsoidal suspension, edgewound aluminum coil on Nomex coil former, and proprietary phase plug. 60 x 40 degree constant coverage aluminum horn (rotates for horizontal or vertical use) Acoustical alignment – shallow -12dB/octave attenuation below 50Hz for excellent in-room bass as well as good subwoofer integration Frequency response – 50Hz – 22.5kHz +/- 3dB Impedance – Nominal 8 ohms, 7 ohms min. Sensitivity – 90 dB (2.83v/1w) Power – 240w peak program Peak output – 112dB Group delay, bass – >10ms Crossover – time-aligned, quasi zero phase Dimensions – 250(w) x 375(d) x 710mm or approximately 10 x 14.75 x 28 inches Model 753 3-way, large five driver main tower speakerConfiguration – triple sealed 8” bass, single 6.5” high-energy midrange Treble system – 1” exit compression driver, 34mm titanium diaphragm with ellipsoidal suspension, edgewound aluminum coil on Nomex coil former, and proprietary phase plug. 60 x 40 degree constant coverage aluminum horn Acoustical alignment – shallow -12dB/octave attenuation below 45Hz Frequency response – 45Hz – 22.5kHz +/- 3dB Impedance – Nominal 6 ohms, 5 ohms min. Sensitivity – 92.5 dB (2.83v) Sensitivity – 91 dB (1w) Power – 260w peak program Group delay, bass – >10ms Crossover – time-aligned, linear phase Dimensions – 250(w) x 375(d) x 1200mm or approximately 10 x 14.75 x 47.25 inches, not including base Model 740s 2-way, two driver surround/effects, utility speaker and satellite with onwall provisions (arrives in second phase)Configuration – single 6.5" bass, tuned port Treble system – 1” exit compression driver, 37mm polyimide diaphragm and suspension, Nomex coil former, 4.75” round constant coverage aluminum horn Frequency response – 80Hz – 20kHz +/- 3dB Impedance – 4 ohms nominal. Sensitivity – 92 dB (2.83v) Power – 180w peak program Group delay, bass – >4ms Crossover – time-aligned, quasi zero phase Dimensions – 205(w) x 190(d) x 330(h)mm or approximately 8.1 x 7.5 x 13 inches Some pics also from his post:   |
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Post by ttocs on Oct 21, 2020 15:05:01 GMT -5
They look very similar to the 30 year old Boston Acoustics I've got, except the Chanes have an third 8" woofer and a much different tweeter. Very nice!
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Post by teaman on Oct 21, 2020 15:37:28 GMT -5
I thought you didn't like horn speakers? Both pairs you linked as possible candidates are nice, I too am intrigued to hear the Tektons. My buddy recently bought the Polycell 15 speakers and runs a pair of bridged XPA-2 into them. He loves them.
Tim
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Post by creimes on Oct 21, 2020 17:24:01 GMT -5
I thought you didn't like horn speakers? Both pairs you linked as possible candidates are nice, I too am intrigued to hear the Tektons. My buddy recently bought the Polycell 15 speakers and runs a pair of bridged XPA-2 into them. He loves them. Tim I've heard the Klipsch bottom line at my wife's cousins about 4 years back and wasn't a fan, I hear the RF7 III's are in a different league though and from the review of the 752 he says they sound nothing like the lower end klipsch towers, I actually really enjoy the T1 tweeter and the Chane A5rx-c I had before, well the whole speaker not just the tweeter haha, from what I have read these are more like a JTR horn or the Elusive from DIY Sound Group. I would like to try something like the new Chane 700 series as it should be very dynamic and doesn't have the shoutyness some describe of some horns. With the Tektons there are so many choices it must be room and listening habits dependent, but big heavy speakers coming into Canada won't be cheap, those Chane's are a pretty nice deal but I can't say what he is selling them for as they are not officially released yet but you can message him and buy them, I am one for liking dynamics and effortless sound so I am very interested in those 753 towers haha, I'm not sure where Ivor has gone to but he had the Elusive 1099 if I remember correctly and last time I talked with him still had the Titan speakers from DIY Sound Group, he really liked them but I have never had a chance to get to Calgary to hear them and it seems DIY Sound Group is always out of stock on most of their stuff plus I'm lazy to build them haha. Chad |
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Post by creimes on Oct 21, 2020 17:33:17 GMT -5
I thought you didn't like horn speakers? Both pairs you linked as possible candidates are nice, I too am intrigued to hear the Tektons. My buddy recently bought the Polycell 15 speakers and runs a pair of bridged XPA-2 into them. He loves them. Tim
This is taken from the thread, Jon talking about the horn design and sound:"A note about treble and dispersion because whenever we talk about horns and treble we should consider if we're dispersing treble energy broadly and uniformly.
Too much emphasis is paid to technical treble dispersion and not enough to real treble sound. The first is the technical, specified, predicted, or theoretical dispersion usually based on some combination of figures, plotted speaker output, and the assumptions drawn from them.
The second, however, is the general sense the listener gets when actually listening to a speaker, regardless of what that specification may be. I know that's subjective, but from experience I also think that any multi-way speaker's sense of presence, brightness, dimension, and focus is much less influenced by what we think is treble directivity in space, and far more influenced by how the treble is acoustically integrated into the rest of the speaker.
For good tweeters the speaker's crossover network and filters count more than anything else. In fact, where overall speaker sound goes, the crossover is most of the story. This is the largely hidden aspect behind a good loudspeaker, not special drivers or apparent technology or even objective measured response.
Assuming the treble system isn't deficient, it's the speaker's other behaviors that tells the ear if we have adequate treble “dispersion”. And since speakers can suffer the parts-in-a-box sound syndrome, a speaker with solid engineering and good tuning deep in the design and upstream of the drivers has every opportunity, in the popular vernacular, to “blow it away.” As with the A Series, this feature sets the 700 Series sound.
Before we made any boxes we'd designed the 700 series's horn treble system; we knew how we were going to electro-acoustically integrate it to get the desired effect. The sense of focus and dimension in these models is the result of a deliberate design type and choice that produced the design and parts list. These speakers sound more enveloping and natural than some will expect from affordable speakers with horns in them.
But for reference, let's address those directivity patterns in the abstract anyway. These numbers still matter and I want readers to have a good perspective of them.
The technical treble dispersion window in these models is just about perfect for the typical mid-sized, mixed-use living space, and at least that good for the larger dedicated theater room. The 753 places the center of the treble horn 1125mm from the floor, not including the included attachable feet. This is about 44 inches, good for a seated listener in each of the two front rows of a home theater space.
Using the specs for our horn, we find that the usable vertical treble angle meets a standard low 8' ceiling at not quite twelve feet away, which is roughly overhead the main listening position in an average home listening space. If you have ears on the ceiling at 12 feet from the speaker, you're on the edge of this speaker's rated vertical treble dispersion window. That's not a very restricted treble window.
Since we don't have ears on the ceiling, even if we stand at 10' or more we're still in a useful treble window. Here a speaker's crossover functions can deviate its response as much or more than the horn will. Virtually any vertical, asymmetrical stack of drivers with a passive crossover will deviate from a flat response as we sweep through the vertical arc. While our horn has a tighter rated dispersion angle and window, it has a more constant behavior within them.
The horn treble system also controls the treble window down to a lower frequency where it better matches the midrange's narrowing dispersion. Like the midrange driver, horn treble systems engage fewer close room boundaries like side walls and ceilings. If you've ever heard a good horn and a good horn implementation, you've already witnessed this effect. Done well they image more naturally – more like headphones more than average, conventional speakers. A good horn can sound less congested, flavored, colored, or limited, while it may also sound more direct, connected, dynamic, and reference-like.
That's it on treble systems in the new Chane 700 series. They're pro-grade, they're well designed, their dispersion is excellent, and the overall effect they have is all for the better. They liberate the entire speaker's output while on average lowering its distortion. In the case of these models, only this caliber of treble system can do that job." |
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Post by teaman on Oct 22, 2020 9:56:45 GMT -5
Yeah, the upper Reference Premier line is far advanced compared to the Reference line of Klipsch. Move to the Heritage series of speakers and you move up another notch. To me, I would only want Heritage at this point. Three way with horn loaded titanium mid and tweeter. Heritage also offers much nicer furniture quality cabinets.
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Post by brutiarti on Oct 22, 2020 11:18:12 GMT -5
T2s??
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Post by creimes on Oct 22, 2020 13:03:04 GMT -5
Looking for something different all together, that's why the new Chane 700 series have peaked my interest, I'm a poor audio guy so no Dali speakers for me  Chad
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Post by brutiarti on Oct 23, 2020 15:24:30 GMT -5
Looking for something different all together, that's why the new Chane 700 series have peaked my interest, I'm a poor audio guy so no Dali speakers for me Chad Lol. You can always get the Ikon line, very good sounding. |
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Post by creimes on Oct 23, 2020 22:15:53 GMT -5
Looking for something different all together, that's why the new Chane 700 series have peaked my interest, I'm a poor audio guy so no Dali speakers for me Chad Lol. You can always get the Ikon line, very good sounding. There are so many choices out there one's head can spin haha, I'm excited to try out the 700 series from Chane, something different I'm not used to. Chad |
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Post by creimes on Jan 12, 2021 1:28:18 GMT -5
After a shipping mix up and getting two 753 and one 752 I have received the third 753 to complete my LCR of 753's and the sound is stunning, they play big and do not disappoint as they sound very refined as well. Also still awaiting the outriggers as they are back ordered but supposed to be next month.  And one of the two speakers with one of my Airmotiv 5s for a fun size comparison  |
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Post by mattiedsc on Jul 13, 2021 14:23:55 GMT -5
How are you liking them after having them for 6 months now?
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Post by creimes on Jul 14, 2021 10:54:57 GMT -5
How are you liking them after having them for 6 months now? Still very much so, every time I listen I have a smile on my face, I have no plans on letting these go, plus they are very big so it wouldn't be an easy task |
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