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Post by klinemj on Nov 13, 2020 21:56:55 GMT -5
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Post by klinemj on Nov 15, 2020 18:42:51 GMT -5
I found a detailed comparison (link at end), and one thing I noticed is that the 1st one is HDMI 2.1 compatible while the 2nd is 2.0b If I recall, the Emotiva G3 processors are 2.0b currently. I assume the XMC-2 would still work fine with the 2.1 version...correct? I kind of like the 1st one better as it's a more recent generation picture processor AND it's a lot cheaper. Here's a link to a detailed comparison of the 2: www.zkelectronics.com/comparetv/lg-86un8570puc/usa/lg-86um8070pua/usa/Mark |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 16, 2020 21:47:49 GMT -5
Input anyone?
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Post by ttocs on Nov 16, 2020 22:35:19 GMT -5
I found a detailed comparison (link at end), and one thing I noticed is that the 1st one is HDMI 2.1 compatible while the 2nd is 2.0b If I recall, the Emotiva G3 processors are 2.0b currently. I assume the XMC-2 would still work fine with the 2.1 version...correct? I kind of like the 1st one better as it's a more recent generation picture processor AND it's a lot cheaper. Here's a link to a detailed comparison of the 2: www.zkelectronics.com/comparetv/lg-86un8570puc/usa/lg-86um8070pua/usa/Mark That comparo site is GREAT! Very detailed. Makes things easy. I too was wondering why the older model was higher priced. I can only see a couple things that "lead me" to believe the older model was a higher model aimed at being more adjustable by professional setup, could be wrong. And sometimes the if the older tv was the top of the heap, the price doesn't get lowered enough to be less expensive than a replacement that might only be lacking a couple features considered to be more exclusive. If it were me, I'd get the newer, less expensive model with the later processor and more features with latest spec. HDMI-2.1, etc, etc. |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 17, 2020 19:45:21 GMT -5
I found a detailed comparison (link at end), and one thing I noticed is that the 1st one is HDMI 2.1 compatible while the 2nd is 2.0b If I recall, the Emotiva G3 processors are 2.0b currently. I assume the XMC-2 would still work fine with the 2.1 version...correct? I kind of like the 1st one better as it's a more recent generation picture processor AND it's a lot cheaper. Here's a link to a detailed comparison of the 2: www.zkelectronics.com/comparetv/lg-86un8570puc/usa/lg-86um8070pua/usa/Mark That comparo site is GREAT! Very detailed. Makes things easy. I too was wondering why the older model was higher priced. I can only see a couple things that "lead me" to believe the older model was a higher model aimed at being more adjustable by professional setup, could be wrong. And sometimes the if the older tv was the top of the heap, the price doesn't get lowered enough to be less expensive than a replacement that might only be lacking a couple features considered to be more exclusive. If it were me, I'd get the newer, less expensive model with the later processor and more features with latest spec. HDMI-2.1, etc, etc. Thanks for the input...any input on how the Gen 3 processors do in passing to an HDMI 2.1 device? Any reason to expect an issue? Mark |
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Post by megash0n on Nov 17, 2020 19:48:44 GMT -5
That comparo site is GREAT! Very detailed. Makes things easy. I too was wondering why the older model was higher priced. I can only see a couple things that "lead me" to believe the older model was a higher model aimed at being more adjustable by professional setup, could be wrong. And sometimes the if the older tv was the top of the heap, the price doesn't get lowered enough to be less expensive than a replacement that might only be lacking a couple features considered to be more exclusive. If it were me, I'd get the newer, less expensive model with the later processor and more features with latest spec. HDMI-2.1, etc, etc. Thanks for the input...any input on how the Gen 3 processors do in passing to an HDMI 2.1 device? Any reason to expect an issue? Mark I'm curious as well. I have an opened Xbox I'm hoping works when I decide to use it |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 17, 2020 20:22:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the input...any input on how the Gen 3 processors do in passing to an HDMI 2.1 device? Any reason to expect an issue? Mark I'm curious as well. I have an opened Xbox I'm hoping works when I decide to use it Why not just try it? Mark |
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Post by megash0n on Nov 17, 2020 20:55:31 GMT -5
I'm curious as well. I have an opened Xbox I'm hoping works when I decide to use it Why not just try it? Mark debating selling it and waiting until the next shipment happens. Maybe make a couple hundred dollars to pay for the next one. Plus, the stepson would like one too. ☺ Just trying to get the most value when there's not a good reason to even have one ATM. |
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Post by ttocs on Nov 17, 2020 21:16:23 GMT -5
That comparo site is GREAT! Very detailed. Makes things easy. I too was wondering why the older model was higher priced. I can only see a couple things that "lead me" to believe the older model was a higher model aimed at being more adjustable by professional setup, could be wrong. And sometimes the if the older tv was the top of the heap, the price doesn't get lowered enough to be less expensive than a replacement that might only be lacking a couple features considered to be more exclusive. If it were me, I'd get the newer, less expensive model with the later processor and more features with latest spec. HDMI-2.1, etc, etc. Thanks for the input...any input on how the Gen 3 processors do in passing to an HDMI 2.1 device? Any reason to expect an issue? Mark I would expect "backwards compatibility" would be in play. |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 17, 2020 21:46:30 GMT -5
Thanks for the input...any input on how the Gen 3 processors do in passing to an HDMI 2.1 device? Any reason to expect an issue? Mark I would expect "backwards compatibility" would be in play. I would also...do you expect that to be a good thing or...not? Mark |
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Post by ttocs on Nov 17, 2020 23:06:24 GMT -5
I would expect "backwards compatibility" would be in play. I would also...do you expect that to be a good thing or...not? Mark Well, it's anybody's guess as to how that might affect eARC. I think Keith has said that sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. I've read that since there's a gazillion 2.0a/b devices in the wild, that it's possible to update via firmware to make eARC work on devices currently only supporting ARC. I don't have any confirmation of this statement, however. So, if I were buying a new tv with 2.1 I'd expect to be able for it to function at least as much as any 2.0b tv, and not worse. Assigning "good" or "bad" to a statement would be: It's a good thing if the new tv doesn't function any less than a non-2.1 tv currently does, and it's bad if it does function less than a current non-2.1 tv. In the famous words of Frankenstein on SNL:  |
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Post by LCSeminole on Nov 17, 2020 23:49:32 GMT -5
...any input on how the Gen 3 processors do in passing to an HDMI 2.1 device? Any reason to expect an issue? Mark I've taken a mental note of what a few LG OLED owners have said about how their HDMI 2.1 capable flat panels seem to switch faster with the RMC-1/RMC-1L/XMC-2. The LG OLEDs were the 2019 models C9/E9 and 2020 models BX/CX/GX. If I can find those posts I'll copy them back here. If I'm not mistaken, one of those members was "richb". I only made this post as the LG model you are looking at is also HDMI 2.1 capable so maybe there LED models are similar to their OLED models. I do know that Emotiva has a few LG flat panels in-house that they test their G3P's with. |
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 18, 2020 9:43:34 GMT -5
Here’s the equation:
TV 📺 Blows=Wallet opens. A mathematical solution that never fails
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Post by novisnick on Nov 18, 2020 9:55:51 GMT -5
Here’s the equation: TV 📺 Blows=Wallet opens. A mathematical solution that never fails How far it opens is the question. 🤔 |
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Post by housetech on Nov 18, 2020 12:19:32 GMT -5
I ask the question why folks are still buying projectors today, considering the cost & now size of flat screens. (for non- theater dedicated rooms)
The cost are down significantly and will continue to improve quality. Manufacturers will always design/build for price points, so there are always going to be options.
I just bought a Sony XBR 65X900H and the picture quality is amazing for $1100.
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Post by ttocs on Nov 18, 2020 12:44:03 GMT -5
I ask the question why folks are still buying projectors today, considering the cost & now size of flat screens. (for non- theater dedicated rooms) The cost are down significantly and will continue to improve quality. Manufacturers will always design/build for price points, so there are always going to be options. I just bought a Sony XBR 65X900H and the picture quality is amazing for $1100. There are those of us, especially me, who love a projected image!! All I needed to keep from getting a panel tv was to have a normal amount of windows on the front of my house. The entire front wall, floor to pitched roof (cathedral ceiling) is windows, so daytime viewing is what suffered. I enjoy a projected image so much I lived with darkening the windows for several years, but, alas, I traded a lack of daytime contrast and beautiful imagery at night for reflections in the glass screen 24/7. The panel is bright enough to disregard the reflections most of the time. Right now as I'm writing this I see what's behind me reflected in dark areas of the picture. HDR/DV is better on the panel, so I got THAT goin' for me, which is nice. %3Amax_bytes(150000)%3Astrip_icc()%2F2ickmv-5ba3a5e0c9e77c00253fa177.jpg&f=1&nofb=1) |
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 18, 2020 13:18:23 GMT -5
Here’s the equation: TV 📺 Blows=Wallet opens. A mathematical solution that never fails How far it opens is the question. 🤔Absolutely correct!! I need to refactor the +\- into the equation |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 18, 2020 13:22:50 GMT -5
I ask the question why folks are still buying projectors today, considering the cost & now size of flat screens. (for non- theater dedicated rooms) The cost are down significantly and will continue to improve quality. Manufacturers will always design/build for price points, so there are always going to be options. I just bought a Sony XBR 65X900H and the picture quality is amazing for $1100. The only downside I have heard on TV's vs. projectors is that, with the TV located between the FR/FL speakers - there's a giant glass pane there to reflect sound from the speakers. With my Maggies that send sound out front and back, the TV is an added concern. On the other hand...if there were no TV - there's still a giant wall of drywall back there to reflect sound. So, I'm not sure it's meaningfully different. But, the TV size/cost is getting better. Mark |
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 18, 2020 13:32:14 GMT -5
I ask the question why folks are still buying projectors today, considering the cost & now size of flat screens. (for non- theater dedicated rooms) The cost are down significantly and will continue to improve quality. Manufacturers will always design/build for price points, so there are always going to be options. I just bought a Sony XBR 65X900H and the picture quality is amazing for $1100. The only downside I have heard on TV's vs. projectors is that, with the TV located between the FR/FL speakers - there's a giant glass pane there to reflect sound from the speakers. With my Maggies that send sound out front and back, the TV is an added concern. On the other hand...if there were no TV - there's still a giant wall of drywall back there to reflect sound. So, I'm not sure it's meaningfully different. But, the TV size/cost is getting better. Mark Depends on the setup configuration. In my case, the drivers in the front soundstage are all out beyond all reflective surfaces, but true otherwise the reflections could be potentially impactful. Similarly, a center channel should not be recessed on a ledge for the same reasons. |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 18, 2020 13:37:56 GMT -5
The only downside I have heard on TV's vs. projectors is that, with the TV located between the FR/FL speakers - there's a giant glass pane there to reflect sound from the speakers. With my Maggies that send sound out front and back, the TV is an added concern. On the other hand...if there were no TV - there's still a giant wall of drywall back there to reflect sound. So, I'm not sure it's meaningfully different. But, the TV size/cost is getting better. Mark Depends on the setup configuration. In my case, the drivers in the front soundstage are all out beyond all reflective surfaces, but true otherwise the reflections could be potentially impactful. Similarly, a center channel should not be recessed on a ledge for the same reasons. True...then there's my speakers...Maggies. Front and back firing... Mark |
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