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Post by LuisV on Nov 3, 2020 6:30:08 GMT -5
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Post by creimes on Nov 3, 2020 9:41:18 GMT -5
They look nice but out of my price range, built in Canada but I would have to pay US prices haha, prices here in Canada are $4999 and $8499 ouch, I like how they went with the look from their STR series, but at those prices no XLR inputs sheesh  Chad |
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Post by LuisV on Nov 3, 2020 9:58:22 GMT -5
Same here... I like the new more modern design. For HT most inputs will be HDMI and since it has streaming built in (Roon support coming), they probably figured why add XLR input; however, for the price I understand your point. Personally, for a HT processor, if it was Roon ready and or had the 3 major audio streaming services built in, all I would want / need is 2 HDMI inputs and an ethernet connection... the rest is wasted space and cost.
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Post by rbk123 on Nov 3, 2020 10:21:44 GMT -5
$7k. Ouch.
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Post by cawgijoe on Nov 3, 2020 10:26:32 GMT -5
Beyond my humble reach.
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 3, 2020 10:32:14 GMT -5
7 Grand whilst the Motion Picture industry is hamstrung......? Pardon me while I wait.
Bill
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Post by LuisV on Nov 3, 2020 11:03:37 GMT -5
$3,499 retail for the AVM 70; slightly higher than the XMC-2, but I'm sure the AVM 70 will be discounted after release. But yes... $7k, not for me. |
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Post by LuisV on Nov 3, 2020 11:04:41 GMT -5
7 Grand whilst the Motion Picture industry is hamstrung......? Pardon me while I wait. Bill Ha... same here, but AVM 70 @ $3,499 is simply another option for those, like me, looking for a new processor for a new build. |
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 3, 2020 11:21:01 GMT -5
7 Grand whilst the Motion Picture industry is hamstrung......? Pardon me while I wait. Bill Ha... same here, but AVM 70 @ $3,499 is simply another option for those, like me, looking for a new processor for a new build. Understood. Right now, nothin gets swapped out in my system unless I have an equipment failure. |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 3, 2020 12:09:51 GMT -5
And still no XLR Analog Input.
So far only the Emotiva new generation of Processors and the Mcintosh MX170 have an XLR Analog Input(s) ... and the McIntosh is a “bit” pricier ... :-)
Casey
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Post by megash0n on Nov 3, 2020 14:15:48 GMT -5
And still no XLR Analog Input. So far only the Emotiva new generation of Processors and the Mcintosh MX170 have an XLR Analog Input(s) ... and the McIntosh is a “bit” pricier ... :-) Casey I believe they are looking forward. They have built in Roon which they feel would be a replacement for the need to have analog. Not saying whether this is debatable or not... I personally couldn't care less as I have zero need for anything analog nor would I want it. But, if they are providing newer technologies that could replace the need for it, it makes sense to me. |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 3, 2020 15:39:45 GMT -5
I believe they are looking forward. They have built in Roon which they feel would be a replacement for the need to have analog. For me, I don't view having a processor be Roon Ready to be a big positive. I use Roon for 2 channel, and I've yet to find a processor which sounds as good as my external (Roon Ready) DAC (which goes XLR in to my XMC-1 running in reference stereo). Net, unless this thing's 2 channel sound is as good as my external DAC run XLR-in to my pre-pro...I'd still want the XLR inputs. And, I doubt its 2-channel sound is as good as what I currently have. You don't seem like much of a 2-channel guy to me, so it doesn't surprise me you wouldn't be very interested in XLR inputs for it. Mark |
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Post by megash0n on Nov 3, 2020 15:58:46 GMT -5
I believe they are looking forward. They have built in Roon which they feel would be a replacement for the need to have analog. For me, I don't view having a processor be Roon Ready to be a big positive. I use Roon for 2 channel, and I've yet to find a processor which sounds as good as my external (Roon Ready) DAC (which goes XLR in to my XMC-1 running in reference stereo). Net, unless this thing's 2 channel sound is as good as my external DAC run XLR-in to my pre-pro...I'd still want the XLR inputs. And, I doubt its 2-channel sound is as good as what I currently have. You don't seem like much of a 2-channel guy to me, so it doesn't surprise me you wouldn't be very interested in XLR inputs for it. Mark You are correct good sir. While I do enjoy listening to music, and often do so, I just don't care enough to distinguish between a digital or analog input. I'm not at all saying there isn't a difference. I just have a hard time believing a $35 Raspberry Pi with an XLR hat is designed and built as well as a multi-thousand $$$ pre/pro. Again, I'm not saying I'm right. Almost all of this is opinion based anyways. I'm just stating that I understand why someone would eliminate it for certain reasons or another. It's really no different than making the argument about 2 channel today, but tomorrow you're complaining about how you cannot get ARC to work from your TV to the G3P. ARC itself has many limitations. ARC implementation across all TVs is inconsistent. We have this debate about Apple TV and how it send Atmos. We all care about something a little different. Here is one other thought on the matter as well, which may have went into this decision.. I believe they allow all channels to be assigned to "whatever". Virtual routing if you will. I have made a statement in the past asking Emotiva to consider this because it makes a ton of sense. But, I don't think one could have a true analog path with this as one would assume the virtual routing would have to be digital in nature. So, maybe this is why they didn't do the XLR in because it technically wouldn't matter to those "purists". Lastly, if any of this comes off as me minimizing anyone else's goals.. It's not. Just because I don't care about a feature doesn't mean I don't want you to have it. |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 3, 2020 16:38:01 GMT -5
For me, I don't view having a processor be Roon Ready to be a big positive. I use Roon for 2 channel, and I've yet to find a processor which sounds as good as my external (Roon Ready) DAC (which goes XLR in to my XMC-1 running in reference stereo). Net, unless this thing's 2 channel sound is as good as my external DAC run XLR-in to my pre-pro...I'd still want the XLR inputs. And, I doubt its 2-channel sound is as good as what I currently have. You don't seem like much of a 2-channel guy to me, so it doesn't surprise me you wouldn't be very interested in XLR inputs for it. Mark You are correct good sir. While I do enjoy listening to music, and often do so, I just don't care enough to distinguish between a digital or analog input. I'm not at all saying there isn't a difference. I just have a hard time believing a $35 Raspberry Pi with an XLR hat is designed and built as well as a multi-thousand $$$ pre/pro. Again, I'm not saying I'm right. Almost all of this is opinion based anyways. I'm just stating that I understand why someone would eliminate it for certain reasons or another. It's really no different than making the argument about 2 channel today, but tomorrow you're complaining about how you cannot get ARC to work from your TV to the G3P. ARC itself has many limitations. ARC implementation across all TVs is inconsistent. We have this debate about Apple TV and how it send Atmos. We all care about something a little different. Here is one other thought on the matter as well, which may have went into this decision.. I believe they allow all channels to be assigned to "whatever". Virtual routing if you will. I have made a statement in the past asking Emotiva to consider this because it makes a ton of sense. But, I don't think one could have a true analog path with this as one would assume the virtual routing would have to be digital in nature. So, maybe this is why they didn't do the XLR in because it technically wouldn't matter to those "purists". Lastly, if any of this comes off as me minimizing anyone else's goals.. It's not. Just because I don't care about a feature doesn't mean I don't want you to have it. I thought that was the case for you. And - FYI - my main system is not a cheap Pi source...it's a very pricey external DAC but it is fed via Roon (through a very pricey little added device called an UltraRendu...sounds GREAT!). The DAC and the UltraRendu both happen to be Roon Ready, and the UltraRendu taked Roon via ethernet in and feeds my DAC via USV which then feeds my XMC-1 via XLR. I had a DC-1 and the XMC-1's DAC for 2 channel was as good as the DC-1...so I moved the DC-1. Then, I got my LH Labs DAC and it blew away the XMC-1's DAC. So, I moved to that. Then, I tried the ultrarendu, and sound got even better. So, that's where I'm at. I only use Pi-based solutions on my headphone stations. On virtual routings, I do like that feature. Emotiva had that so you could mix any audio input with any video input and create a combo. You could even pair an analog audio input (such as my phono) with a digital video input (such as my cable input). That was nice - being able to listen to my TT while seeing video from the TV. I've asked for that to return, but to no avail. Mark |
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Post by Soup on Nov 4, 2020 5:29:26 GMT -5
Go Anthem! Waiting for the reviews.
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