motsu
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Post by motsu on Nov 29, 2020 2:26:47 GMT -5
Hey there, back when i first got my XMC-1 there was a feature request thread, I don't see one for the XMC-2 with a few searches, so i thought i would establish one. If this already exists, feel free to link me and ill rm this 
My setup is pretty basic, I have a nvidia shield as the input to my xmc-2. Currently, when i turn the shield off, it will turn off the XMC-2, but the processor doesn't forward along the power off command to the TV. This was the same behavior with the XMC-1, so theres no regression, but it would be nice if all my devices turned on and off with one remote.
I could see some complication if there are multiple devices connected (say, a shield and a game console), where one device turning off that you aren't actively using would cause the display to turn off as well, but i think it would be fairly intuitive if only the active device turning off passed along the power off to the display.
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also, so im not making multiple threads, it would also be amazing if you could select an input button to use audio from one hdmi port, but the video from another. I don't know if this is a limitation of the hdmi switching on the XMC, but currently when changing the audio input to use, you only have the option of the current display HDMI, as well as the various other analogue / digital inputs on the back. I have to keep my game console connected directly to the TV so that i can have the XMC playing audio from my shield, and then switch the input on the TV to the game console with the volume set at 0. It would be amazing if i could assign an input button on the remote so that it passed the video from the game console HDMI port, but used the audio from the shield's HDMI port.
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Post by benjam on Nov 29, 2020 6:40:20 GMT -5
On my wishlist will be:
1. DTS-X Pro support
2. Auro 3D support
3. more flexibility of changes after Dirac measuremnts. (changing of distance and PEQ like the Monolith HTP-1)
1&2 are my biggest wishes for a christmas update ;-)
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Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 29, 2020 12:32:54 GMT -5
Reliability, reliability, reliability.
1. No connection mishaps.
2. Reliable network Firmware Update. Any form of bricking is a complete failure.
Features? I’d actually be willing to forego a current feature in order to get more reliability: On Screen Menu Displays. Just be a pure pass through HDMI switch, extracting the Audio.
Casey
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Post by kanichkhun on Nov 30, 2020 0:59:05 GMT -5
1. DTS-X Pro support
2. Auro 3D support (demands or not, I still hoping it should be supported, I want to use it for upmixing concert/music.)
3. more flexibility of changes after Dirac measurement.
4. small storage internally set for emergency reset (incase bricking from firmware update or similar sort)
5. server update support instead of USB.
6. a complete refresh of menu would be nice but solve existing bugs first
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Post by markc on Nov 30, 2020 4:09:35 GMT -5
On my wishlist will be: 3. more flexibility of changes after Dirac measuremnts. (changing of distance and PEQ like the Monolith HTP-1) Changing distance after running Dirac is not there for a reason - it won't result in improved anything. Dirac filter creation has compensating for the actual at-microphone measured delays of sound reaching it from the various speakers and the reflections of those speakers. Impulse response and time alignment of every speaker is part of the filter generation. You will not be able to do a better job than the Dirac filter creation software has done for you! If you move a speaker manually, you need to remeasure. Same with adding PEQ onto Dirac. You won't be able to improve anything better than what is decided for you by Dirac. Sure, you can add "colouration" to the sound to make it a less good fit to a target curve, but I guess you could use the Tone controls for that too! |
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Post by BigE on Nov 30, 2020 13:56:27 GMT -5
1. DTS-x support.
2. Re-mapping of speakers such that I can keep 3 subs & 6 atmos by giving up 2 wides.
Xbox One S gives message
Your audio receiver must support DTS X for home theater to use this setting. Check your manufacturer's instructions for more info. OBObcf0949)
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Post by doc1963 on Nov 30, 2020 14:28:37 GMT -5
1. DTS-x support. 2. Re-mapping of speakers such that I can keep 3 subs & 6 atmos by giving up 2 wides. Xbox One S gives message Your audio receiver must support DTS X for home theater to use this setting. Check your manufacturer's instructions for more info. OBObcf0949) Maybe I'm not understanding, but all three of the Gen3 processors already do support DTS:X. DTS:X "Pro" has not yet been implemented, but " Pro" only adds expansion beyond 11 channels within the core and expands Neural X upmixing. Otherwise, it's the same DTS:X. Do you have your Xbox plugged directly into your processor or to your TV with audio back to the processor using ARC...? If the latter, your TV may not support DTS (even on "pass-through"). Some of them now don't. |
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Post by benjam on Nov 30, 2020 15:38:12 GMT -5
On my wishlist will be: 3. more flexibility of changes after Dirac measuremnts. (changing of distance and PEQ like the Monolith HTP-1) Changing distance after running Dirac is not there for a reason - it won't result in improved anything. Dirac filter creation has compensating for the actual at-microphone measured delays of sound reaching it from the various speakers and the reflections of those speakers. Impulse response and time alignment of every speaker is part of the filter generation. You will not be able to do a better job than the Dirac filter creation software has done for you! If you move a speaker manually, you need to remeasure. Same with adding PEQ onto Dirac. You won't be able to improve anything better than what is decided for you by Dirac. Sure, you can add "colouration" to the sound to make it a less good fit to a target curve, but I guess you could use the Tone controls for that too! |
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Post by benjam on Nov 30, 2020 15:41:53 GMT -5
I would use this feature for my DBA because Dirac can‘t setup a DBA.
If I have the possibility to change distances and the PEQ I would not need an external DSP ;-)
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Post by megash0n on Nov 30, 2020 17:32:57 GMT -5
1. DTS-x support. 2. Re-mapping of speakers such that I can keep 3 subs & 6 atmos by giving up 2 wides. Xbox One S gives message Your audio receiver must support DTS X for home theater to use this setting. Check your manufacturer's instructions for more info. OBObcf0949) Maybe I'm not understanding, but all three of the Gen3 processors already do support DTS:X. DTS:X "Pro" has not yet been implemented, but " Pro" only adds expansion beyond 11 channels within the core and expands Neural X upmixing. Otherwise, it's the same DTS:X. Do you have your Xbox plugged directly into your processor or to your TV with audio back to the processor using ARC...? If the latter, your TV may not support DTS (even on "pass-through"). Some of them now don't. I just tested this myself using a Xbox One X plugged directly into a RMC-1. I get the same error. " Your receiver doesn't support DTS:X for home theater " |
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Post by doc1963 on Nov 30, 2020 18:01:11 GMT -5
Maybe I'm not understanding, but all three of the Gen3 processors already do support DTS:X. DTS:X "Pro" has not yet been implemented, but " Pro" only adds expansion beyond 11 channels within the core and expands Neural X upmixing. Otherwise, it's the same DTS:X. Do you have your Xbox plugged directly into your processor or to your TV with audio back to the processor using ARC...? If the latter, your TV may not support DTS (even on "pass-through"). Some of them now don't. I just tested this myself using a Xbox One X plugged directly into a RMC-1. I get the same error. " Your receiver doesn't support DTS:X for home theater " Then I’m not sure what the Xbox is looking for. I have several Blu-Rays that contain DTS:X audio tracks that play without problem through both of my disc players. Ripped content also plays fine via Plex on my Nvidia Shield. So with those three devices passing DTS:X through to my RMC-1L (and my RMC-1L successfully decoding it), I would point the finger at the Xbox. Maybe a configuration misstep or an app that needs to be loaded (like with Atmos). |
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Post by megash0n on Nov 30, 2020 18:29:13 GMT -5
I just tested this myself using a Xbox One X plugged directly into a RMC-1. I get the same error. " Your receiver doesn't support DTS:X for home theater " Then I’m not sure what the Xbox is looking for. I have several Blu-Rays that contain DTS:X audio tracks that play without problem through both of my disc players. Ripped content also plays fine via Plex on my Nvidia Shield. So with those three devices passing DTS:X through to my RMC-1L (and my RMC-1L successfully decoding it), I would point the finger at the Xbox. Maybe a configuration misstep or an app that needs to be loaded (like with Atmos). I agree that it seems to work with everything else. No clue what the issue is. I was just reporting that I receive the same error. |
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Post by kanichkhun on Dec 2, 2020 5:14:24 GMT -5
so i guess we've to reflect this to emotiva and microsoft perhaps? that the xbox is not capturing it correctly or gen3 didn't send out proper acknowledgement.
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Post by cwt on Dec 2, 2020 7:23:25 GMT -5
so i guess we've to reflect this to emotiva and microsoft perhaps? that the xbox is not capturing it correctly or emotiva didn't send out proper acknowledgement. Dont have a xbox 1s but a quick google shows it has trouble sending out a straight encoded codec bitstream without having to remux subsidiary sounds with a lpcm conversion .. answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/xba_console/bitstream-setting-why-forced-to-choose-dts-or/81129277-1570-4cc3-b1d4-d67a65e9fd2fI would have much more trust in a player that is designed to switch on auto to the correct bitstream ; also wonder how things go with atmos metadata which has to be piggybacked on the bitstream not on any converted lpcm  |
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NicS
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Post by NicS on Dec 2, 2020 15:39:28 GMT -5
Ability to run dual subwoofers in stereo. That would be great. Dual mono just doesn't sound as integrated.
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Post by BigE on Dec 2, 2020 22:54:57 GMT -5
Then I’m not sure what the Xbox is looking for. I have several Blu-Rays that contain DTS:X audio tracks that play without problem through both of my disc players. Ripped content also plays fine via Plex on my Nvidia Shield. So with those three devices passing DTS:X through to my RMC-1L (and my RMC-1L successfully decoding it), I would point the finger at the Xbox. Maybe a configuration misstep or an app that needs to be loaded (like with Atmos). I agree that it seems to work with everything else. No clue what the issue is. I was just reporting that I receive the same error. Perhaps I'm confused on what it does. This was recently released and is new in the audio settings portion. Before, I had a choice of Atmos or the normal options, the DTSX for Home theaters is new. I have also been able to get DTS from blu ray pass thru, but this appears to be something different. I don't know if it's an enhancement to DTS codec or simply something provided to Microsoft vis DTS to use for stuff from the box itself. Engadget -DTS:X for home theater comes to Xbox Onefrom Forbes: "The integration of the DTS:X for Home Theater system on the Xbox will create a DTS:X bitstream compatible with all DTS:X AVRs and soundbars. The bitstream will render, too, to the full speaker layout capability of the supported DTS:X AVR or soundbar, and there won’t be any performance difference between movie of gaming content." www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2020/09/14/xbox-one-gets-one-more-great-new-featureand-the-series-x-is-getting-it-too/?sh=758de6d23f46dts.com/sound-unbound/faqSending an email to DTS for further insight. BTW: "FAQ | DTS:X FOR HOME THEATER ON XBOX What is DTS:X for Home Theater? DTS:X is a next-generation, immersive audio format from DTS that brings three-dimensional, cinema-quality sound to your home theater system. Select DTS:X for Home Theater on your Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, or Xbox Series X and download the free DTS Sound Unbound application to get started. Connect your Xbox to a DTS:X sound bar, or upgrade to a multi-channel DTS:X home theater receiver with speakers all around you, and rediscover what it means to be immersed in your entertainment. How do I get DTS:X for Home Theater on my Xbox? DTS:X for Home Theater is a free upgrade on Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, and Xbox Series X. First, connect your Xbox to your DTS:X sound bar or multi-channel home theater receiver. Then, install the DTS Sound Unbound application from the Microsoft Store on your Xbox to get started. Once installed, select DTS:X for Home Theater as your bitstream format in Xbox system audio settings. You’re ready to go!"  |
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Post by megash0n on Dec 3, 2020 17:58:49 GMT -5
I agree that it seems to work with everything else. No clue what the issue is. I was just reporting that I receive the same error. Perhaps I'm confused on what it does. This was recently released and is new in the audio settings portion. Before, I had a choice of Atmos or the normal options, the DTSX for Home theaters is new. I have also been able to get DTS from blu ray pass thru, but this appears to be something different. I don't know if it's an enhancement to DTS codec or simply something provided to Microsoft vis DTS to use for stuff from the box itself. Engadget -DTS:X for home theater comes to Xbox Onefrom Forbes: "The integration of the DTS:X for Home Theater system on the Xbox will create a DTS:X bitstream compatible with all DTS:X AVRs and soundbars. The bitstream will render, too, to the full speaker layout capability of the supported DTS:X AVR or soundbar, and there won’t be any performance difference between movie of gaming content." www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2020/09/14/xbox-one-gets-one-more-great-new-featureand-the-series-x-is-getting-it-too/?sh=758de6d23f46dts.com/sound-unbound/faqSending an email to DTS for further insight. BTW: "FAQ | DTS:X FOR HOME THEATER ON XBOX What is DTS:X for Home Theater? DTS:X is a next-generation, immersive audio format from DTS that brings three-dimensional, cinema-quality sound to your home theater system. Select DTS:X for Home Theater on your Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, or Xbox Series X and download the free DTS Sound Unbound application to get started. Connect your Xbox to a DTS:X sound bar, or upgrade to a multi-channel DTS:X home theater receiver with speakers all around you, and rediscover what it means to be immersed in your entertainment. How do I get DTS:X for Home Theater on my Xbox? DTS:X for Home Theater is a free upgrade on Xbox One S, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, and Xbox Series X. First, connect your Xbox to your DTS:X sound bar or multi-channel home theater receiver. Then, install the DTS Sound Unbound application from the Microsoft Store on your Xbox to get started. Once installed, select DTS:X for Home Theater as your bitstream format in Xbox system audio settings. You’re ready to go!" View AttachmentThanks for the heads up on this. I didn't even bother to check for an app. But, after installing the app, I still get the same issue. For whatever reason, the Xbox will not activate dts:x with the G3P. I'm not finding many posts with anyone else having this issue. |
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motsu
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Post by motsu on Dec 7, 2020 21:31:47 GMT -5
I wanted to clarify on this... my shield was set up to use IR for power, when i thought i initially set it up just for vol +/-. after switching to CEC it is behaving as expected and turning the TV off too... still would like support for different HDMI selections on audio though
My setup is pretty basic, I have a nvidia shield as the input to my xmc-2. Currently, when i turn the shield off, it will turn off the XMC-2, but the processor doesn't forward along the power off command to the TV. This was the same behavior with the XMC-1, so theres no regression, but it would be nice if all my devices turned on and off with one remote.
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fpv
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Post by fpv on Dec 10, 2020 4:47:37 GMT -5
Xmc2
1. DTS-x pro
2. More flexibility in re-mapping of the speakers
3. Auro 3d
4. Update for the app it's more reliable since the remote control is buggy hit or miss
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Post by davidl81 on Dec 10, 2020 12:13:06 GMT -5
Xmc2 1. DTS-x pro 2. More flexibility in re-mapping of the speakers 3. Auro 3d 4. Update for the app it's more reliable since the remote control is buggy hit or miss 5. I see a lot of request for DTS-X pro. Is this more for upmixing of DTS-X tracks? Since I think current DTS-X Pro content is very limited. Although I would also like future support for it. |
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