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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 28, 2021 8:48:45 GMT -5
Yeah I saw the Tekton speakers not crazy about the look though. The sound justifies the look in my system, by a long shot. |
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Post by LuisV on Feb 28, 2021 9:47:22 GMT -5
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Post by LuisV on Feb 28, 2021 9:50:15 GMT -5
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Post by LuisV on Feb 28, 2021 10:05:27 GMT -5
Nice but an outrageous pricetag. The 70's design didn't cost this much.. Thanks though! Floor standing vs stand mounted... in the end, they take up the same floor space. Visually... it all depends on preference and what looks better to buyer. Cost vs performance, that's a totally different discussion. The "vintage" style / design, as you can see isn't dead, I think the focus shifted towards sleeker and furniture grade looking speakers that blend and therefore look better within a living / family room. Nothing wrong with the design... it's purely supply vs demand and staying in business. |
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Post by 405x5 on Feb 28, 2021 10:55:08 GMT -5
Speaker size was always a rather primitive thing for me until recent years.
“Bigger has to be better” and to a large extent (no pun intended) it always seemed to be true, if you wanted to get as close in your home to a live performance as possible.
High end Sub. Sat systems of the 21st century have very handily blown much of that right out of the water.
I have relocation plans slated for the not too distant future. Looking forward to this concept in my “next space” where I can be enveloped and yet move everything easily out of the way for the painters to get in there.
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Post by DYohn on Feb 28, 2021 11:13:52 GMT -5
Nice but an outrageous pricetag. The 70's design didn't cost this much.. Thanks though! Oh? Yes they did. Don't forget to adjust for inflation (and I am not talking about the cheap white van or K-Mart speakers, I am talking about those worth owning.) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 11:56:17 GMT -5
Beginning to think it a conspiracy to make people scale down and settle for less. First the prices are outrageous for speakers with large woofers. $2000.00 per speaker and that the lowest price! Then availability now you have to search other countries to get the 70's style speaker with elaborate costs. That's why I made this thread hoping maybe Emotiva would make a pair of 70 style speakers for us who like them. Forget the 6 1\2 speakers or towers.. Give me a 12-15" woofer with a nice cabinet.. I would pay $1000.00 - $1200.00 for a pair but no more than that.. I think it's kinda particular how most speakers today are tested w/ a 1000hz test tone for sensitivity by publications. That might [in my mind] effectively neutralize the playing field between small book shelfs and big old nasty full range 3-4 way towers. Only the speakers for example in a full range tower that play at 1000hz are emitting sound when pitted up against a small book shelf playing the same 1000hz tone. Don't know whether it is a conspiracy or all that just saying that might make a book shelf appear to shine against massive 4 ways. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 12:39:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 12:49:12 GMT -5
Yeah I saw the Tekton speakers not crazy about the look though. The sound justifies the look in my system, by a long shot. The look does draw attention not that that's the desirable trait of the Tekton. If anything the design conveys, "not conventional". Just this last week we had other guests over and like so many before them they gravitate towards the speakers where they can see through the grills at the MTM array. They point and say I've never seen anything like that. Last guy stood 12 feet in front of my Ulfberhts and dual 4-10s. As I began to increase the volume he chuckled and said something in which I couldn't hear putting his hand over his chest. If I interpret the body language he said oh my gosh and I can feel the music through my body and chest. That was only a quarter volume demonstration where he experienced round 120 SPL. I just love Tekton's MTM array despite the unconventional looks. Only regret I have is not going for the Piano finish in the Light Gray. |
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 28, 2021 12:53:20 GMT -5
I can understand bookshelf speakers if you are indee going to put them on a shelf or some place that doesn't take up floor space. If you are setting them on stands, why not go with towers for the enhanced sonic capabilities?
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 28, 2021 12:58:13 GMT -5
The sound justifies the look in my system, by a long shot. The look does draw attention not that that's the desirable trait of the Tekton. If anything the design conveys, "not conventional". Just this last week we had other guests over and like so many before them they gravitate towards the speakers where they can see through the grills at the MTM array. They point and say I've never seen anything like that. Last guy stood 12 feet in front of my Ulfberhts and dual 4-10s. As I began to increase the volume he chuckled and said something in which I couldn't hear putting his hand over his chest. If I interpret the body language he said oh my gosh and I can feel the music through my body and chest. That was only a quarter volume demonstration where he experienced round 120 SPL. I just love Tekton's MTM array despite the unconventional looks. Only regret I have is not going for the Piano finish in the Light Gray. I've got the charcoal finish, with the grills on nothing shows through. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 13:01:33 GMT -5
The look does draw attention not that that's the desirable trait of the Tekton. If anything the design conveys, "not conventional". Just this last week we had other guests over and like so many before them they gravitate towards the speakers where they can see through the grills at the MTM array. They point and say I've never seen anything like that. Last guy stood 12 feet in front of my Ulfberhts and dual 4-10s. As I began to increase the volume he chuckled and said something in which I couldn't hear putting his hand over his chest. If I interpret the body language he said oh my gosh and I can feel the music through my body and chest. That was only a quarter volume demonstration where he experienced round 120 SPL. I just love Tekton's MTM array despite the unconventional looks. Only regret I have is not going for the Piano finish in the Light Gray. I've got the charcoal finish, with the grills on nothing shows through. Tis why I went Light Gray Tekton's Benjamin Moore - Silver Half Dollar color. I wished to have contrast so the black speakers were noticeable against the light colored cabinets. I'm not an experienced wood worker but instead of using Epoxy/Resin to get that high gloss finish I was thinking of removing the drivers and spraying the cabinets in clear Lacquer. Perhaps another thread on cabinet finishing but I would enjoy some input from experienced wood workers if anyone be so kind to PM me. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2021 13:04:39 GMT -5
Since talking 80s can't believe nobody posted these. They're half a grand currently:  |
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Post by MusicHead on Feb 28, 2021 21:24:47 GMT -5
Beginning to think it a conspiracy to make people scale down and settle for less. That depends on what you listen to. Most, if not all, well designed speakers with one or two 6.5" woofers are more than adequate for the vast majority of music genres. If you want more extension down low for greater impact with music or music/home theater mixed duty, you are much better off with keeping the speakers with smaller woofer and adding a good quality sub (not the cheapo "one note" variety) Decoupling the reproduction of <80Hz or so frequencies from the mid-bass and up frequencies allows you to find the best spot for imaging and sound stage with your main speakers, while at the same time positioning the sub for best bass quality (non necessarily quantity, although achieving both would be ideal) Even better with two or more subs 😁. Doing that with full-range speakers is nearly impossible, unless you have an acoustically perfect room. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2021 0:18:28 GMT -5
Beginning to think it a conspiracy to make people scale down and settle for less. That depends on what you listen to. Most, if not all, well designed speakers with one or two 6.5" woofers are more than adequate for the vast majority of music genres. If you want more extension down low for greater impact with music or music/home theater mixed duty, you are much better off with keeping the speakers with smaller woofer and adding a good quality sub (not the cheapo "one note" variety) Decoupling the reproduction of <80Hz or so frequencies from the mid-bass and up frequencies allows you to find the best spot for imaging and sound stage with your main speakers, while at the same time positioning the sub for best bass quality (non necessarily quantity, although achieving both would be ideal) Even better with two or more subs 😁. Doing that with full-range speakers is nearly impossible, unless you have an acoustically perfect room. Agree, but it doesn't have to be one or the other. I mean, a lot of people w/ full towers also add a sub. But I'd just like to point out that the mainstream market today sells products as you suggest. Small towers or book shelves which require a sub. What gets me is that reviewers test the little tiny eenie weeny speakers w/ a test tone of 1000hz therefore leveling the playing field. If things haven't changed I noted Stereophile was notorious for sensitivity tests as so. I've been saying this for awhile and sometimes people say in response, well, the larger tower will win every time as if that's a negative. I'm like yah? |
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Post by foggy1956 on Mar 2, 2021 7:57:10 GMT -5
That depends on what you listen to. Most, if not all, well designed speakers with one or two 6.5" woofers are more than adequate for the vast majority of music genres. If you want more extension down low for greater impact with music or music/home theater mixed duty, you are much better off with keeping the speakers with smaller woofer and adding a good quality sub (not the cheapo "one note" variety) Decoupling the reproduction of <80Hz or so frequencies from the mid-bass and up frequencies allows you to find the best spot for imaging and sound stage with your main speakers, while at the same time positioning the sub for best bass quality (non necessarily quantity, although achieving both would be ideal) Even better with two or more subs 😁. Doing that with full-range speakers is nearly impossible, unless you have an acoustically perfect room. Agree, but it doesn't have to be one or the other. I mean, a lot of people w/ full towers also add a sub. But I'd just like to point out that the mainstream market today sells products as you suggest. Small towers or book shelves which require a sub. What gets me is that reviewers test the little tiny eenie weeny speakers w/ a test tone of 1000hz therefore leveling the playing field. If things haven't changed I noted Stereophile was notorious for sensitivity tests as so. I've been saying this for awhile and sometimes people say in response, well, the larger tower will win every time as if that's a negative. I'm like yah? My point exactly, if you're going to set a speaker on a stand why not just reap the benefits of a larger enclosure? |
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Post by 405x5 on Mar 2, 2021 8:53:58 GMT -5
“My point exactly, if you're going to set a speaker on a stand why not just reap the benefits of a larger enclosure?” Precisely! Have those SAME big drivers in the larger enclosure and let them SHINE from the increased internal cab. volume instead of choking them in a little box, then tossing them up on a stand! Bill |
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Post by housetech on Mar 2, 2021 13:01:55 GMT -5
Surround sound with multiple pairs changed the marketing of speakers and designs- form-factor. Subwoofers allowed engineers to concentrate on the frequency range 80hz & up. I also liked the older 3, 4- way designs and owned some I seriously regret selling.
btw, my neighbor put her Cerwin Vega D9 in her will to be given to me. When I re-edged speaker surrounds the woofers for her asked if she would 'trade' them with me. Her answer was an emphatic "NO". She a singer and plays church & choral music with organs that go low.
JBL brought back the L-100s for a 'pittance price' of $4k. I bought the originals for under $500... and 'no' I didn't get the orange. lol
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Post by novisnick on Mar 3, 2021 1:16:29 GMT -5
Not sure but mine may be the only ones owned by a lounge member and are actually from the 80’s. LOL
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