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Post by leonski on Mar 10, 2021 21:22:36 GMT -5
A few weeks back...maybe a little longer, some were getting all wound up about wanting a power meter. Here it is! courtesty of Radio Shack.....of all places. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvMfiRsErcAThis is the PICK OF THE LITTER among these devices. Still won't show REAL power unless you are driving a resistor, but fun, nonetheless. Have fun. I have Zero Idea of 'used' availability......but I suspect a few ARE out there somewher lurking in garage sales or at GoodWill. |
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Post by vcautokid on Mar 10, 2021 22:42:24 GMT -5
Yep I remember that. I almost bought for fun. But decided on something else. Brings back memories though.
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Post by leonski on Mar 11, 2021 0:38:29 GMT -5
A short time ago, half a dozen posters were wanting one. If EMO just made a copy? I'm sure it's not 'proprietary'.......they'd SELL like crazy.
Make the illumination BLUE like You-Know-Who and it's worth a 10% price bump.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 0:42:38 GMT -5
A short time ago, half a dozen posters were wanting one. If EMO just made a copy? I'm sure it's not 'proprietary'.......they'd SELL like crazy. Make the illumination BLUE like You-Know-Who and it's worth a 10% price bump..... Any modern manufactures of similar Vu meters? |
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Post by leonski on Mar 11, 2021 2:45:26 GMT -5
i haven't any idea. I ran across this was looking for information on my Minimus 7 speakers, a classic to this day......Very small 2-way in a cast aluminum enclosure.
I you got one......take it apart and draw a schematic. Problem might be getting METERS but it might also be possible to replace the meters with a pair of LED Ladder displays?
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Post by JKCashin on Mar 11, 2021 8:10:24 GMT -5
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Post by Priapulus on Mar 11, 2021 8:30:45 GMT -5
A few weeks back...maybe a little longer, some were getting all wound up about wanting a power meter. Here it is! courtesty of Radio Shack.....of all places. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvMfiRsErcAThis is the PICK OF THE LITTER among these devices. Still won't show REAL power unless you are driving a resistor, but fun, nonetheless. Have fun. I have Zero Idea of 'used' availability......but I suspect a few ARE out there somewher lurking in garage sales or at GoodWill. This is what I have, self-made, on my test bench. It includes 100w dummy loads, speaker and bnc outputs. The two power meters are kits from Velloman. www.velleman.eu/downloads/0/infosheets/k8098_uk.pdfAttachment Deleted |
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Post by metaldaze on Mar 11, 2021 9:27:03 GMT -5
 +1 I have one of these. I bought NOS it for a fair price a few years ago. Works flawless and it came in the original box with the schematic/block diagram from Realistic. The red LED's are instantaneous power where as the needles are average power. Switched on the back for 4 or 8 ohms. And the toggle switch on the front for 2W or 200W. Like leonski said they're not the best if you really want to know actual power output to a precise level. But they are a fair approximation. And a hell of a lot of fun to look at  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 12:33:31 GMT -5
+1 I have one of these. I bought NOS it for a fair price a few years ago. Works flawless and it came in the original box with the schematic/block diagram from Realistic. The red LED's are instantaneous power where as the needles are average power. Switched on the back for 4 or 8 ohms. And the toggle switch on the front for 2W or 200W. Like leonski said they're not the best if you really want to know actual power output to a precise level. But they are a fair approximation. And a hell of a lot of fun to look at Makes me want to redline or peg the meters. I'd like to have an analogue Vu meter, no LEDS and no Digital display that looks like something out of Michael Knight's Firebird on Knight Rider:  |
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Post by markscho on Mar 11, 2021 12:54:19 GMT -5
Power meters for the DR1s Gen4
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Post by KeithL on Mar 11, 2021 13:24:30 GMT -5
I kind of like the retro Radio Shack meter... although I always preferred blue.
I had one of these a very long time ago (its a Marantz 140). Honestly, I thought the amp itself pretty good, but maybe not great... But I do consider it to be one of the best LOOKING amps I've ever seen...
(And, yes, that cabinet has real oiled walnut veneer... )
It should be possible to replicate meters that look like that in real hi-res video... I would love to see a real hi-res pointer combined with changeable backgrounds and wallpaper... (Like "classic blue" and "steampunk"... ) I've seen a few tries at this in software - but none I've found to be especially compelling.
+1 I have one of these. I bought NOS it for a fair price a few years ago. Works flawless and it came in the original box with the schematic/block diagram from Realistic. The red LED's are instantaneous power where as the needles are average power. Switched on the back for 4 or 8 ohms. And the toggle switch on the front for 2W or 200W. Like leonski said they're not the best if you really want to know actual power output to a precise level. But they are a fair approximation. And a hell of a lot of fun to look at Makes me want to redline or peg the meters. I'd like to have an analogue Vu meter, no LEDS and no Digital display that looks like something out of Michael Knight's Firebird on Knight Rider: |
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Post by leonski on Mar 11, 2021 18:39:06 GMT -5
I could care less about 'measurements' and 'stats'. They make nice music in the garage. The ONLY thing I've heard is that changing the crossover (a SINGLE capacitor!) can make positive changes. That wouldn't surprise me. Speakers must be going on 30 years old..... You'lll never get 110db out of 'em OR bass below 60 or 70hz......or maybe not even that low. I'll look at your link later when I have some time...... |
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Post by leonski on Mar 11, 2021 18:45:20 GMT -5
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Post by 405x5 on Mar 12, 2021 17:50:36 GMT -5
I’ll never forget when my PHASE LINEAR power meters.....told me that after 11 years, my amp. did the DEATH 💀 ☠️ roll.....never to return.
I just turned the thing on that day and those beautiful needles flew ALL the way over (never to return). Those were the days!
Bill
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Post by leonski on Mar 12, 2021 18:10:15 GMT -5
Sorry, 405, about the loss of your Phase Linear. the PL400 was of course, the 'Flame Linear' for which you can, today get substantial rebuild and modification kits to fix some or most of the original issues.
My PERSONAL bias (pardon my bad joke) is for the BIAS meter which Pass has on some of his offerings. As the meter doesn't move, you are in 'A'. As the meter deflects, you are 'leaving class 'A'
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Post by audiobill on Mar 12, 2021 18:23:37 GMT -5
With all the love for meters, why not simply buy McIntosh?
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Post by brutiarti on Mar 12, 2021 18:31:42 GMT -5
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Post by 405x5 on Mar 12, 2021 18:35:11 GMT -5
Sorry, 405, about the loss of your Phase Linear. the PL400 was of course, the 'Flame Linear' for which you can, today get substantial rebuild and modification kits to fix some or most of the original issues. My PERSONAL bias (pardon my bad joke) is for the BIAS meter which Pass has on some of his offerings. As the meter doesn't move, you are in 'A'. As the meter deflects, you are 'leaving class 'A' I heard the nickname “Blaze Linear” more often than the latter, but either way the nickname spurred Bob Carver on (me thinks) to come up with his FAR MORE bulletproof designs. I just passed my 20th year with the Sunfire and it’s perfect! A redesign testament for sure. The Phase 400 is gone 33 years from me. Bill |
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Post by leonski on Mar 12, 2021 21:01:01 GMT -5
Sunfire amps used output devices made by the company I worked for.......
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Post by leonski on Mar 12, 2021 21:03:36 GMT -5
With all the love for meters, why not simply buy McIntosh? Given the tendency of EMO buyers to not buy 'the high priced spread', you can answer your own question...... Certainly few here would pony up JUST for the blue meters......Me among them, even IF I could afford it.... |
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