Go your own way, on your system

[jacob]

Question, how does "Go your own way" 2004 remaster by Fleetwood mac sound on your system when played somewhat loud?

For me it is uncomfortably bright/sharp, and the voice do not sound very natural. There are a few songs that have similar problems with sharpness but most songs sounds great for me on my system. As comparison Dreams by the same artist sound nice even though there are some very bright cymbal crashes, but they sound fine.

So is it my systems weakness or is Go your own way just a problematic recording?

[novisnick]

Apr 21, 2022 16:39:36 GMT -5 jacob said:

Question, how does "Go your own way" 2004 remaster by Fleetwood mac sound on your system when played somewhat loud?

For me it is uncomfortably bright/sharp, and the voice do not sound very natural. There are a few songs that have similar problems with sharpness but most songs sounds great for me on my system. As comparison Dreams by the same artist sound nice even though there are some very bright cymbal crashes, but they sound fine.

So is it my systems weakness or is Go your own way just a problematic recording?

Please inform us as to what your signature is. (Audio gear). Alway good to know what we’re comparing sound to. It would also help if you disclose what medium you’re using. IE: Streaming, LP, or CD?
Ill need to get home and give a critical listen to it before I can share my thoughts with you.

[jacob]

Apr 21, 2022 17:36:47 GMT -5 novisnick said:

Please inform us as to what your signature is. (Audio gear). Alway good to know what we’re comparing sound to. It would also help if you disclose what medium you’re using. IE: Streaming, LP, or CD?
Ill need to get home and give a critical listen to it before I can share my thoughts with you.

Ok, for the curious:
Streamed from spotify
Streamer/dac: Yamaha wxad-10
Preamp: Emotiva ta-100
Amp: Emotiva a300
Speakers: Elac ub52
Speaker cable: Supra ply
Sub: Rel t5x

The speakers would actually be a problem in this setup, there were bigger problems with sharpness before. But I replaced the speaker terminals, because I heard it was a weak spot, and that took away all the sharpness in like 98% songs.

[creimes]

Apr 22, 2022 3:10:31 GMT -5 jacob said:

Apr 21, 2022 17:36:47 GMT -5 novisnick said:

Please inform us as to what your signature is. (Audio gear). Alway good to know what we’re comparing sound to. It would also help if you disclose what medium you’re using. IE: Streaming, LP, or CD?
Ill need to get home and give a critical listen to it before I can share my thoughts with you.

Ok, for the curious:
Streamed from spotify
Streamer/dac: Yamaha wxad-10
Preamp: Emotiva ta-100
Amp: Emotiva a300
Speakers: Elac ub52
Speaker cable: Supra ply
Sub: Rel t5x

The speakers would actually be a problem in this setup, there were bigger problems with sharpness before. But I replaced the speaker terminals, because I heard it was a weak spot, and that took away all the sharpness in like 98% songs.

You could sign up for a free trial of Tidal or Qobuz to compare to Spotify, I use Tidal for it's CD quality playback.

Chad

[DYohn]

Buckingham-Nicks has always made my teeth stand on edge so I can't help you.

[garbulky]

I'm listening to it on my Sennheiser HD800S headphones using a high resolution streaming master as the source (though I'm hearing it at 44.1 khz). I think it sounds pretty good. The only thing that is a little "treble-heavy" is a guitar that plays on the right speaker but it's still within ok limits. But it is a little bit livelier than in Dreams which is a more mellow track. The kick drums and bass on "go your own way" are not as pronounced as what you get in "Dreams". So if you have speakers that are a little bass deficient a louder bass and drum track could even out the tone which may give you this impression. On Dreams, the most treble heavy thing is the loud cymbal on the chorus which still sounds pretty good.

I suggest that it may not be just your speakers but the rest of your setup like your room acoustics and speaker placement. I found that acoustic treatment like this one really helps with your overall sound.
www.atsacoustics.com/item--ATS-Acoustic-Panel-24-x-48-x-2--1001.html
In my room, it took quite a bit of effort to get the treble to be dialed in and a lot of it had to do with acoustic treatment and speaker placement. I've also heard several speakers whose tweeters are simply not up to the task of good treble detail.

Something you can do is run a frequency sweep test like this one. See if you notice large volume swings and dips especially in the bass and mid-range. If you do notice them, then you might have an uneven frequency response causing tone issues.

[housetech]

Spotify (paid version) is mp3- 320 kbps vs CD 1,411 kbps (4x better sample rate)
I can hear the difference, especially with cymbals. Uncompressed audio will allow the cymbals to ring as they fade away, but compressed will have more of a clunk sound without much fade away. You'll also notice the "s" & "sh" words will sound better with higher resolution.
The beginning of Dreams starts with percussion & a cymbal should ring for a second or two. Never Going Back Again has a lot of "s" words & Buckingham's guitar should ring as he plays.

[housetech]

Apr 22, 2022 10:27:49 GMT -5 DYohn said:

Buckingham-Nicks has always made my teeth stand on edge so I can't help you.

If you did as much coke as she did, you wouldn't have any teeth to worry about DYohn. lol

[housetech]

Speaking of Peter Green- time to fire up the server to start Friday Happy Hour(s).

[405x5]

My system goes its own way, which is, as far away from that song as it can get.

[drtrey3]

I think the top end on my dvd-audio is a little tizzy on all the tracks. Nothing too bad, and I had not noticed until you pointed it out. But listen to the sizzle on the hi-hat at the beginning of You Make Loving Fun. I hear a little something extra compared to the hi-hats I have been in the room with. They might have cooked the top end to make it a little more exciting, or maybe it was because they were doing the best they could with a worn out master.

Good ears to hear it!

Trey

[housetech]

This morning came back inside the house, heard music playing and thought something was terribly wrong with the system, omg.
Wife was playing Pandora free version, lol, thank goodness.

[JKCashin]

OK just tried this and am seeing same thing... too much sizzle on the cymbals and I am using the same source, Spotify

[housetech]

I did the free trial of Spotify for about a day but it wasn't for me. Nice app features but... not paying for compressed music.

[jacob]

I've tried with Tidal (cd-quality) now and it was not the silver bullet for me. It made no difference that I could hear, possibly worse. (Edit: maybe my dac is not good enough for it to make a difference, that's an upgrade I'll consider in some years probably.)

My problems started when i switched speaker cables and then I thought i solved them when I switched terminals. Until I came upon the song in the subject title.

From the few that listened to the song I conclude that there is a small amount of sharpness in my system and that the song is a bit problematic for more people than me.

I will borrow some cables and see if I find an improvement with something else than Supra ply for my system. Also I've got some ideas on how to improve the solder on the terminals some more, that might help, given the exchange made a huge difference in the first place.

[monkumonku]

Have you considered maybe it just isn't that great of a recording to begin with? If you're going to evaluate your system based on a recording then maybe it ought to be something that is acknowledged as being very well recorded. You could just be hearing the faults in the recording itself.

[jacob]

Apr 23, 2022 17:35:28 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

Have you considered maybe it just isn't that great of a recording to begin with? If you're going to evaluate your system based on a recording then maybe it ought to be something that is acknowledged as being very well recorded. You could just be hearing the faults in the recording itself.

LOL
That is exactly why I asked how it sounds on YOUR system, which only 2 persons have answered. It's not the only song I can detect some harsh s-sounds or other bright sound, but it is the most troubling, which is why I wanted to know if it's just a bad recording or if it should sound good on a balanced system. (Not a warm/smooth system, because that would obviously sond better with this song)

[geebo]

Apr 23, 2022 19:23:32 GMT -5 jacob said:

Apr 23, 2022 17:35:28 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

Have you considered maybe it just isn't that great of a recording to begin with? If you're going to evaluate your system based on a recording then maybe it ought to be something that is acknowledged as being very well recorded. You could just be hearing the faults in the recording itself.

LOL
That is exactly why I asked how it sounds on YOUR system, which only 2 persons have answered. It's not the only song I can detect some harsh s-sounds or other bright sound, but it is the most troubling, which is why I wanted to know if it's just a bad recording or if it should sound good on a balanced system. (Not a warm/smooth system, because that would obviously sond better with this song)

I have the multi channel DVD-A version 96kHz 24 bit and Go Your Own Way sounds pretty shrill to me especially when played loud. The rest of the album isn't like that.

[audiobill]

Toe your speakers a bit more out.

[JKCashin]

Apr 23, 2022 16:37:48 GMT -5 jacob said:

From the few that listened to the song I conclude that there is a small amount of sharpness in my system and that the song is a bit problematic for more people than me.

Yeah sharpness is a good description of what I felt as well.