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Post by conmoto on Aug 15, 2022 17:36:48 GMT -5
I’m trying to integrate my S8 into my turntable, TA-100, B1+ system. It doesn’t sound good with the phono going straight to the S8 no matter the volume or crossover point. Is this a result of low phono output voltage? If so, how do I fix this?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 15, 2022 17:42:05 GMT -5
I’m trying to integrate my S8 into my turntable, TA-100, B1+ system. It doesn’t sound good with the phono going straight to the S8 no matter the volume or crossover point. Is this a result of low phono output voltage? If so, how do I fix this? Don’t know what an S8 is? But let’s start with your turntable plugged directly in to the phono input of the T-100, does that work well? |
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Post by geebo on Aug 15, 2022 17:46:12 GMT -5
I’m trying to integrate my S8 into my turntable, TA-100, B1+ system. It doesn’t sound good with the phono going straight to the S8 no matter the volume or crossover point. Is this a result of low phono output voltage? If so, how do I fix this? The S8 sub isn't designed to accept a signal from a TT. Why not use the subwoofer output from the TA-100 to feed the S8? |
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Post by conmoto on Aug 15, 2022 17:46:30 GMT -5
I’m trying to integrate my S8 into my turntable, TA-100, B1+ system. It doesn’t sound good with the phono going straight to the S8 no matter the volume or crossover point. Is this a result of low phono output voltage? If so, how do I fix this? Don’t know what an S8 is? But let’s start with your turntable plugged directly in to the phono input of the T-100, does that work well? The S8 is Emotiva’s 8” powered sub. Phono into the TA-100 sounds fine. |
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Post by conmoto on Aug 15, 2022 17:53:36 GMT -5
I’m trying to integrate my S8 into my turntable, TA-100, B1+ system. It doesn’t sound good with the phono going straight to the S8 no matter the volume or crossover point. Is this a result of low phono output voltage? If so, how do I fix this? The S8 sub isn't designed to accept a signal from a TT. Why not use the subwoofer output from the TA-100 to feed the S8? I was hoping to use the high pass filter to cut 80hz and below from my mains. |
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Post by geebo on Aug 15, 2022 18:03:18 GMT -5
The S8 sub isn't designed to accept a signal from a TT. Why not use the subwoofer output from the TA-100 to feed the S8? I was hoping to use the high pass filter to cut 80hz and below from my mains. So how about getting a phono preamp that turns the phono output into a line level output that you can feed the sub with? Then feed the TA-100 with the S8 outputs? emotiva.com/collections/pre-amps/products/xps-1 |
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Post by conmoto on Aug 15, 2022 18:11:01 GMT -5
I was hoping to use the high pass filter to cut 80hz and below from my mains. So how about getting a phono preamp that turns the phono output into a line level output that you can feed the sub with? Then feed the TA-100 with the S8 outputs? emotiva.com/collections/pre-amps/products/xps-1Ahh…I guess that makes sense. I’m new to vinyl. Can you tell 😬? |
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Post by KeithL on Aug 16, 2022 8:54:28 GMT -5
That's not really going to do the job.
While a phono preamp will have a line-level output almost no phono preamps have a Volume Control...
If you do it that way you'll have to use the Volume control on the sub to control the level of the sub...
And the Volume control on the TA-100 to control the main speakers...
(So you'll have to use two Volume controls to change the Volume.)
Depending on your main speakers, how low they go, and how loud you normally listen to things...
You'll be much better off connecting one of the summed outputs on the TA-100 to the LFE line level input on the sub.
Then use the Volume control on the sub to match its level to the main speakers.
And the Crossover control on the sub to fine tune things so they blend well.
Once you do that the Volume Control on the TA-100 will control both.
(You won't have a high-pass filter on your main speakers... but, unless you listen really loud, or your main speakers really can't tolerate low notes, it should work just fine.)
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Post by KeithL on Aug 16, 2022 8:57:05 GMT -5
Unfortunately, in order to do it that way, the SE8 has to go between the preamp and the power amp... and you can't do that with the TA-100.... The S8 sub isn't designed to accept a signal from a TT. Why not use the subwoofer output from the TA-100 to feed the S8? I was hoping to use the high pass filter to cut 80hz and below from my mains. |
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Post by geebo on Aug 16, 2022 10:59:41 GMT -5
That's not really going to do the job. While a phono preamp will have a line-level output almost no phono preamps have a Volume Control... If you do it that way you'll have to use the Volume control on the sub to control the level of the sub... And the Volume control on the TA-100 to control the main speakers... (So you'll have to use two Volume controls to change the Volume.) Depending on your main speakers, how low they go, and how loud you normally listen to things... You'll be much better off connecting one of the summed outputs on the TA-100 to the LFE line level input on the sub. Then use the Volume control on the sub to match its level to the main speakers. And the Crossover control on the sub to fine tune things so they blend well. Once you do that the Volume Control on the TA-100 will control both. (You won't have a high-pass filter on your main speakers... but, unless you listen really loud, or your main speakers really can't tolerate low notes, it should work just fine.) Oops, didn't think about the volume issue.  |
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Post by creimes on Aug 16, 2022 23:33:27 GMT -5
I have a phono preamp you can have for the price of shipping, free just pay the shipping if it is worth it, I'm in Canada but it would be Canadian funds through PayPal which is even better for you haha. DJPREII Phone Preamp"Perhaps its most exciting feature is a low-end roll-off switch that cuts some of the boominess from older distorted vinyl, or a turntable’s drive rumble, without cutting much out of the mix. On the front of the device, there’s a centrally located gain knob (up to +10 dB), with a convenient clip indicator, as well as the low-cut switch and input cap button. It’s a lot of features for such a good price.
The DJ PRE II (formerly named the “Phono MicroPRE”) acts as an interface between your turntable and your audio recording / playback system. The analog input capacitance can be switched between 100pF and 200pF to optimize your phono cartridge response. A switchable low cut filter removes turntable rumble while leaving the audio pristine. The front gain trim control and signal/clip LED allow you to optimize the preamp’s gain for a wide range of input sources. The built-in low noise phono preamp circuitry is highly accurate and precisely conforms to the RIAA standard. The line output jacks are low impedance and can be used with any sound card.
Housed in an all aluminum black anodized case, the DJ PRE II can be powered by a wide variety of external supplies. If you need to amplify and EQ your vinyl records to interface with your audio workstation, sound card, home stereo system or main monitor system, the DJ PRE II gives you flawless audio reproduction in a rugged and reliable package."Cheers, Chad  |
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Post by KeithL on Aug 17, 2022 9:31:08 GMT -5
That's awesome... and it has a level control... although note that the Gain Trim has a limited range. The rumble filter is something quite useful that many phono preamps used to have but seem to have disappeared in recent years... I have a phono preamp you can have for the price of shipping, free just pay the shipping if it is worth it, I'm in Canada but it would be Canadian funds through PayPal which is even better for you haha. DJPREII Phone Preamp"Perhaps its most exciting feature is a low-end roll-off switch that cuts some of the boominess from older distorted vinyl, or a turntable’s drive rumble, without cutting much out of the mix. On the front of the device, there’s a centrally located gain knob (up to +10 dB), with a convenient clip indicator, as well as the low-cut switch and input cap button. It’s a lot of features for such a good price.
The DJ PRE II (formerly named the “Phono MicroPRE”) acts as an interface between your turntable and your audio recording / playback system. The analog input capacitance can be switched between 100pF and 200pF to optimize your phono cartridge response. A switchable low cut filter removes turntable rumble while leaving the audio pristine. The front gain trim control and signal/clip LED allow you to optimize the preamp’s gain for a wide range of input sources. The built-in low noise phono preamp circuitry is highly accurate and precisely conforms to the RIAA standard. The line output jacks are low impedance and can be used with any sound card.
Housed in an all aluminum black anodized case, the DJ PRE II can be powered by a wide variety of external supplies. If you need to amplify and EQ your vinyl records to interface with your audio workstation, sound card, home stereo system or main monitor system, the DJ PRE II gives you flawless audio reproduction in a rugged and reliable package."Cheers, Chad |
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