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Post by oidarnam on Sept 19, 2022 13:05:42 GMT -5
I notice Emotiva prices are creeping up...again. Of course, they aren't the only ones.
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Post by davidl81 on Sept 19, 2022 16:30:46 GMT -5
I notice Emotiva prices are creeping up...again. Of course, they aren't the only ones. I do wonder what the honest reason for these price increases are. A lot of the Emo gear is made in China, and all of those products have gone up in cost. Is it just their manufacture in China raising cost, is it shipping cost, is it just US labor cost going up? We mostly blame politicians for inflation (for good reason sometimes), but we don’t look at the world wide reasons these price inflations are happening.
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Post by marcl on Sept 19, 2022 16:44:47 GMT -5
I notice Emotiva prices are creeping up...again. Of course, they aren't the only ones. I do wonder what the honest reason for these price increases are. A lot of the Emo gear is made in China, and all of those products have gone up in cost. Is it just their manufacture in China raising cost, is it shipping cost, is it just US labor cost going up? We mostly blame politicians for inflation (for good reason sometimes), but we don’t look at the world wide reasons these price inflations are happening. It could be specific components, freight, etc. But it comes down to supply and demand. We know demand has been strong, and supply has suffered from the shutdowns at the start of Covid. The world - especially China - has taken time to ramp back up. And note that inflation in Europe is higher than in the US. Pretty hard to blame any politician for it ... lacking actual cause/effect.
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Post by audiosyndrome on Sept 19, 2022 16:56:34 GMT -5
Really easy to place the blame here in the US.
Russ
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Post by pedrocols on Sept 19, 2022 18:58:14 GMT -5
Take care of your current electronics and there will be no need to get new ones.
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 21, 2022 12:55:06 GMT -5
I notice Emotiva prices are creeping up...again. Of course, they aren't the only ones. Yep
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Post by KeithL on Sept 21, 2022 15:05:10 GMT -5
That may be true but both life, and the value of the dollar, are what they are. (And, for all of our sakes, we really would like to stay in business.) When I was a child gas cost 29 cents a gallon... And I'm pretty sure that "jumbo" eggs were actually bigger then than they are now too... I notice Emotiva prices are creeping up...again. Of course, they aren't the only ones. Yep View Attachment
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Post by KeithL on Sept 21, 2022 15:14:41 GMT -5
Uhhh.... yes. ALL of those things have gone up in the last year alone. But it's also worth mentioning that some things have gotten far more economical... When I was a child we purchased a Sony 25" TV - for almost $2000 - which was about half the price of a new car back then. And today you can get a much bigger and nicer TV for $200 to $300 (in 2022 dollars). (That's probably less than the sales tax we paid on that 25" Sony.) I also recall that, in 1980, a T1 data line, which would deliver Internet speeds of 1.5 mBits/second, cost a little over $1500 per month (and that was in 1980 dollars). A really slow cable connection today is 30x faster than that and costs 1/50 as much - in 2022 dollars. And a slow DSL connection, which is only about as fast as that T1 line, doesn't cost much at all. And I also remember when there were about ten "TV stations" and exactly three "premium cable channels". And the only movies you could buy were on VHS tape. I notice Emotiva prices are creeping up...again. Of course, they aren't the only ones. I do wonder what the honest reason for these price increases are. A lot of the Emo gear is made in China, and all of those products have gone up in cost. Is it just their manufacture in China raising cost, is it shipping cost, is it just US labor cost going up? We mostly blame politicians for inflation (for good reason sometimes), but we don’t look at the world wide reasons these price inflations are happening.
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 21, 2022 16:17:29 GMT -5
That may be true but both life, and the value of the dollar, are what they are. (And, for all of our sakes, we really would like to stay in business.) When I was a child gas cost 29 cents a gallon... And I'm pretty sure that "jumbo" eggs were actually bigger then than they are now too... The “jumbos” may be one of a growing list of food items that has escaped the size swindle, as an underhanded way of bumping up food prices…. The first black eye I recall way back when was “freeze dried” coffee cans, at 13.5 oz. Vs a good old 1 pound can. Half gallon ice cream is now 48 (or 42 in some cases). For the same price as former 64 ounce…..even TOILET PAPER rolls are now a good inch NARROWER than years ago.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 21, 2022 23:22:27 GMT -5
When I was a child gas cost 29 cents a gallon ... When I was a child we purchased a Sony 25" TV - for almost $2000 …. 🙅♂️
*** There’s a flag on the field, the play is being reviewed in New York *** (NEW YORK!!!) I was once buying gas at 29¢ and the first TV I actually paid for myself was a Sony 26” Trinitron (thank you Schools Credit Union for my first loan). In my mind those milestones are about 10 years apart — 29¢ gas about 1969-70, 26” Sony about 1979-80. Granted you are likely younger than I, but even if you just became a child in time for 29¢ gas, would you still be one 10 years later? (I’m not actually sure what ‘childhood’ is defined as, but looking it up might ruin my rant). I think in the second instance you would at least need to be a ‘young adult’, ‘teenager’, possibly a ‘guy’ or ‘dude’ … though in those days maybe just ‘hey man’. In any case, the call has been upheld as “illegal child downfield”. 🙆♂️… back to your regularly scheduled topic
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Post by vcautokid on Sept 22, 2022 5:38:05 GMT -5
I am so selective what I buy new. Most today I buy used. Just too darn expensive new for what I want and it gets worse all the time.
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Post by garbulky on Sept 22, 2022 10:32:49 GMT -5
Let me tell you about how I was buying a whole meal for 45 cents.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 22, 2022 12:08:02 GMT -5
Let me tell you about how I was buying a whole meal for 45 cents. Did you have to walk through the snow to buy it?
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Post by garbulky on Sept 22, 2022 18:56:49 GMT -5
Let me tell you about how I was buying a whole meal for 45 cents. Did you have to walk through the snow to buy it? Hehehe we didn’t have snow! But I really could. it was rice with two veggies, lentils, and even a morsel of meat.
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Post by oidarnam on Sept 22, 2022 19:10:59 GMT -5
I ate a lot of ramen noodle packs with a dollop of cream of chicken/mushroom/celery soup. So much sodium, so much saturated fat. It was good. Sometimes there was snow. Did you have to walk through the snow to buy it? Hehehe we didn’t have snow! But I really could. it was rice with two veggies, lentils, and even a morsel of meat.
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Post by garbulky on Sept 22, 2022 20:39:12 GMT -5
I ate a lot of ramen noodle packs with a dollop of cream of chicken/mushroom/celery soup. So much sodium, so much saturated fat. It was good. Sometimes there was snow. Hehehe we didn’t have snow! But I really could. it was rice with two veggies, lentils, and even a morsel of meat. This was what we had. At the time it was about 45 to 50 cents. You could step up to the fancy stuff baked in a bannana leaf but that would set you back a pricey $2.50
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Post by wilburthegoose on Sept 25, 2022 18:52:30 GMT -5
I notice Emotiva prices are creeping up...again. Of course, they aren't the only ones. I do wonder what the honest reason for these price increases are. A lot of the Emo gear is made in China, and all of those products have gone up in cost. Is it just their manufacture in China raising cost, is it shipping cost, is it just US labor cost going up? We mostly blame politicians for inflation (for good reason sometimes), but we don’t look at the world wide reasons these price inflations are happening. My take on the fundamental reasons - The Great Recession (cost of labor increases), "Just in Time" production, China COVID shutdowns, lack of truck drivers, shortages of rail workers, shortages of longshoremen, etc.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Sept 25, 2022 18:52:59 GMT -5
Really easy to place the blame here in the US. Russ It's a global problem
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Post by tropicallutefisk on Sept 26, 2022 11:47:55 GMT -5
Really easy to place the blame here in the US. Russ It's a global problem It is global, but only because many industrialized countries made the same lockdown and massive govt. spending decisions. Just wait till we have depleted the Strategic Oil Reserve or stop pulling from it. Ya ain't seen nothin' yet folks. Like oil or hate oil, its the lifeblood of human civilization right now. Its not just for fueling our daily work commutes.
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Post by marcl on Sept 26, 2022 12:37:35 GMT -5
It is global, but only because many industrialized countries made the same lockdown and massive govt. spending decisions. Just wait till we have depleted the Strategic Oil Reserve or stop pulling from it. Ya ain't seen nothin' yet folks. Like oil or hate oil, its the lifeblood of human civilization right now. Its not just for fueling our daily work commutes. True, the die was cast years ago. Interest rates held so low they had nowhere to go but up; money dumped into the economy at the same time supply was dropping and in chaos due to Covid; with money available, demand outpaced supply; then Putin's war ... and inflation in Europe is higher than in the US. If anyone has an idea what could have been done differently in the past year ... I'd sure like to hear it!
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