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Post by theswede on Oct 18, 2022 8:42:55 GMT -5
Does anyone know if its possible to purchase a V3 HDMI card and if so how much would it be? I looked at the webpage but its not there anymore.
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Post by geebo on Oct 18, 2022 8:52:19 GMT -5
Does anyone know if its possible to purchase a V3 HDMI card and if so how much would it be? I looked at the webpage but its not there anymore. Best option would be to call Emotiva to see if they have any left. |
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Post by 405x5 on Oct 18, 2022 8:59:56 GMT -5
….. I had the same question after getting myself on the email notification list for the board around 6 months ago.
The fact that it disappeared from the product list does not bode well.
I’ve yet to buy a higher definition flat screen so there is no fire here except that I would use it later for video switching direct from the processor……harkens back to the pre HDMI days of component switching with the extra 10 miles of cable.
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Post by vcautokid on Oct 18, 2022 10:32:20 GMT -5
Something to consider is that these boards were very finite quantities and having one around would be pretty dim, but a call to Emotiva Support is always advised.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 18, 2022 10:42:17 GMT -5
I had expected when the HDMI 2.1 board came out for the G3P, that a supply of used “V3” boards would become available for XMC-1 upgrades. Now, the way the G3P+ upgrade has been announced, I expect those cards may be sold with the units that are traded in. But, that’s speculation, some may still come available.
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Post by 405x5 on Oct 18, 2022 10:44:09 GMT -5
I have come to a conclusion, and this is in no way a diss to Emotiva or anyone else… Any other manufacturer of the AV processor.
Modular upgrading for the long-haul is unattainable by anyone in a way that is meaningful and useful. It’s like trying to emulate what we could do with the computer tower years ago swapping out boards, etc., the processor is too specific to make this a practical solution.
To be perfectly honest, I don’t care. After a decade with an AV processor, you will be in the market for a new one no matter what you do. I recall my well laid out plans for the XMC one back in 2012 critics of the Processor were declaring it obsolete before we even got our hands on one… And so it goes……
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Post by bobcel on Oct 18, 2022 15:57:54 GMT -5
Does anyone know if its possible to purchase a V3 HDMI card and if so how much would it be? I looked at the webpage but its not there anymore. If you hear anything let me know too. I'm a waiter as well....... |
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Post by vcautokid on Oct 18, 2022 20:46:58 GMT -5
I have come to a conclusion, and this is in no way a diss to Emotiva or anyone else… Any other manufacturer of the AV processor. Modular upgrading for the long-haul is unattainable by anyone in a way that is meaningful and useful. It’s like trying to emulate what we could do with the computer tower years ago swapping out boards, etc., the processor is too specific to make this a practical solution. To be perfectly honest, I don’t care. After a decade with an AV processor, you will be in the market for a new one no matter what you do. I recall my well laid out plans for the XMC one back in 2012 critics of the Processor were declaring it obsolete before we even got our hands on one… And so it goes…… And there it is. Didn't really want to say it but here it is. The all in one processor preamplifier will be left behind. Why? The computers in it. HDMI is forever moving forward and yes, that means new versions new HDCP and so on. When does it ever stop? Never. Why I chose to stop it already. I loved one solution one company did they isolated video switching to another chassis, so you had a bitchin' sounding Processor Preamplifier you never had to give up because of 8k 16k 32k or whatever. The upgrade boards are one way to control how often you upgrade after a fashion if you need the HDMI switching all in one place. Many do. Some don't. I am one who doesn't. I also don't need Atmos either. So my choices for Legacy Processor Preamplifiers abound. I still think the XMC-1 is still the best Processor Preamplifier Emotiva has done to date. I am not in the RMC or XMC new camp per se. It is about application. What do I need? Where is my focus? For the record my Bedroom system has an Anthem AVM-30 built like a tank with no HDMI switching at all. A Samsung 4K UHD TV compliments my system very well. I am happy to say I have 2 Emotiva BAS-X A2 amplifiers in my system too. Also a Denon AVR-4802 beast to tinker with too. It is about always choices. Many will chase HDMI advances no matter what. Power to them. Meanwhile I will sit back and enjoy the entertainment and not worry about it. Life is too short already thank you. |
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Post by KeithL on Oct 19, 2022 8:38:12 GMT -5
That's a good analogy... with a computer. On a computer you can also swap out the motherboard with the processor... And, with recent graphics card upgrades, you also often have to upgrade to a bigger power supply, and fancier cooling. So, while many computers can claim to be "infinitely upgradable", all you really get to keep is the case (maybe) Which is sort of like upgrading to a new car - where all you get to keep is the hood ornament. And, in fact, in our big processors, you can swap out both the DSP board and the main control computer board. But, at some point, it just isn't worth swapping out all or most of the inside parts so you get to keep the case. And, with the XMC-1 to XMC-2 upgrade, you couldn't even keep the case, because there was no place to put the connectors for the extra channels. (That's why we decided to do that "upgrade" as a "special trade-in".) I should also point out that, in the case of processors, the term "obsolete" is really not a fair term. There are still lots of people who use stereo systems. And I talk to quite a few people who have nice 5.1 or 7.1 channel systems and have no plans to add ceiling speakers. And, if you have a 5.1 or 7.1 channel system, in terms of audio, Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA are "the most recent surround sound formats". And, assuming you use your processor for video switching, you need the appropriate HDMI standard to support the resolution of your display. (So, if you have a 4k XMC-1, and a 5.1 or 7.1 channel system, you're "right up to date" for 4k and 5.1 or 7.1.) And there are also folks who still have 1080p plasma displays or projectors - and MANY who have 4k displays and have no plans to go to 8k any time soon. Try telling someone who owns a vintage sports car that "he's got to get rid of it because carburetors are obsolete". I have come to a conclusion, and this is in no way a diss to Emotiva or anyone else… Any other manufacturer of the AV processor. Modular upgrading for the long-haul is unattainable by anyone in a way that is meaningful and useful. It’s like trying to emulate what we could do with the computer tower years ago swapping out boards, etc., the processor is too specific to make this a practical solution. To be perfectly honest, I don’t care. After a decade with an AV processor, you will be in the market for a new one no matter what you do. I recall my well laid out plans for the XMC one back in 2012 critics of the Processor were declaring it obsolete before we even got our hands on one… And so it goes…… |
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Post by 405x5 on Oct 21, 2022 10:16:39 GMT -5
Anyone?
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Post by 405x5 on Oct 22, 2022 13:38:12 GMT -5
Oh well, so I totally understand the issue as it stands. That being said, my newest course of action to satisfy my own interests in a processor, will be to put up a search on eBay and sooner or later pick up another XMC1 with the latest board installed or at least that it has one that goes with the sale. Then I will have two high end, NON ATMOS processors that I can work with. I certainly understand where Emotiva is coming from and the whole can’t go back thing, that’s a manufacturers dilemma and I have my own!
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 22, 2022 14:07:40 GMT -5
It would seem Emotiva should have a supply of these boards they’re using to build the G3P, maybe when they stop building them there will be a surplus of boards? (positive thinking) Or possibly they could put out a call for those interested (maybe with a pre-order), and make one additional order of cards to fill demand. Which is to say — this board is still a current part — unless they’ve done something with the latest version to make it incompatible with the XMC-1. The latest version (w/eARC) might also require new XMC-1 firmware.
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