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Post by Lsc on May 23, 2024 20:37:22 GMT -5
Good evening everyone, my name is Tayfun, I'm new here in the forum and I'm from Germany. I'm about to get a rmc1 . What about the Hdmi in the meantime, I intend to use an LG oled, together with a jvc x7900 as a player pioneer lx500 and Amazon cube. The jvc projector is equipped with a 15m fiber optic cable ugreen Is the brand of Hdmi cable. Has anyone here also connected a projector and a TV to the rmc1? I own a marantz sr7012 at the moment, where everything works perfectly. I would wait until the RMC1+ is released. |
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Post by lavocat on May 23, 2024 22:55:27 GMT -5
Good evening everyone, my name is Tayfun, I'm new here in the forum and I'm from Germany. I'm about to get a rmc1 . What about the Hdmi in the meantime, I intend to use an LG oled, together with a jvc x7900 as a player pioneer lx500 and Amazon cube. The jvc projector is equipped with a 15m fiber optic cable ugreen Is the brand of Hdmi cable. Has anyone here also connected a projector and a TV to the rmc1? I own a marantz sr7012 at the moment, where everything works perfectly. Yes and I have to use a HDMI switch (Wheyre Storm) to connect my Sony Oled and my XW7000. Using the 2 outputs of my XMC-2 wasn’t possible. Always had hdmi handshakes problems, video and/or audio drops, black screen, etc. I would unbedingt wait for the new Gen 4. |
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Post by superflyron on May 23, 2024 23:01:23 GMT -5
Hello again, I have read a large part of the comments here in the topic. Since the firmware 3.2 it seems as if a large part of the Hdmi problem is gone. It just seemed to me that most people here only use one hdmi output.
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Post by superflyron on May 23, 2024 23:08:00 GMT -5
Good evening everyone, my name is Tayfun, I'm new here in the forum and I'm from Germany. I'm about to get a rmc1 . What about the Hdmi in the meantime, I intend to use an LG oled, together with a jvc x7900 as a player pioneer lx500 and Amazon cube. The jvc projector is equipped with a 15m fiber optic cable ugreen Is the brand of Hdmi cable. Has anyone here also connected a projector and a TV to the rmc1? I own a marantz sr7012 at the moment, where everything works perfectly. Yes and I have to use a HDMI switch (Wheyre Storm) to connect my Sony Oled and my XW7000. Using the 2 outputs of my XMC-2 wasn’t possible. Always had hdmi handshakes problems, video and/or audio drops, black screen, etc. I would unbedingt wait for the new Gen 4. That doesn't sound good, as far as I understand it, the hdmi boards are Identical on the xmc 2 and rmc1. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 24, 2024 0:46:15 GMT -5
Hello again, I have read a large part of the comments here in the topic. Since the firmware 3.2 it seems as if a large part of the Hdmi problem is gone. It just seemed to me that most people here only use one hdmi output. I would say that is correct, most people do only use one HDMI output, and HDMI Out 2 is the primary output, so if you’re only using one, use output 2. If you do hook up a second monitor or projector, they must both be of the same resolution or you will get the lowest of the two. You will also only get Audio out of output 2. Yes and I have to use a HDMI switch (Wheyre Storm) to connect my Sony Oled and my XW7000. Using the 2 outputs of my XMC-2 wasn’t possible. Always had hdmi handshakes problems, video and/or audio drops, black screen, etc. I would unbedingt wait for the new Gen 4. That doesn't sound good, as far as I understand it, the hdmi boards are Identical on the xmc 2 and rmc1. That is also correct, all the current models use the same HDMI board; though the original board did not support eARC, the current one does. |
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Post by lavocat on May 24, 2024 1:34:22 GMT -5
Yes and I have to use a HDMI switch (Wheyre Storm) to connect my Sony Oled and my XW7000. Using the 2 outputs of my XMC-2 wasn’t possible. Always had hdmi handshakes problems, video and/or audio drops, black screen, etc. I would unbedingt wait for the new Gen 4. That doesn't sound good, as far as I understand it, the hdmi boards are Identical on the xmc 2 and rmc1. Easy, not expensive, works fine… www.wyrestorm.com/product/exp-sp-0102-8k/ |
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Post by superflyron on May 24, 2024 2:08:00 GMT -5
The Amazon cube is set to fullhd, the projector is not a native 4k projector. The pioneer lx 500 runs directly on source Direct Mode , as most of my movies are on blu ray.
Arc is uninteresting for the projector anyway, so I would of course put it on the HDMI 1 slot.
However, both devices support 4k hdr up to 60hz, although of course only the TV Dolby Vision.
It was only a matter of whether it works as I plan it with the last fw.
WyreStorm Essentials 8K60 1:2 HDMI Splitter is not sold here in Germany, I was already looking for it.
Normally, however, it should work like this, since the specification of the rmc1 is completely sufficient. As I said usually, I know that there were or still are problems?
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Post by sebna on May 24, 2024 16:06:28 GMT -5
Good evening everyone, my name is Tayfun, I'm new here in the forum and I'm from Germany. I'm about to get a rmc1 . What about the Hdmi in the meantime, I intend to use an LG oled, together with a jvc x7900 as a player pioneer lx500 and Amazon cube. The jvc projector is equipped with a 15m fiber optic cable ugreen Is the brand of Hdmi cable. Has anyone here also connected a projector and a TV to the rmc1? I own a marantz sr7012 at the moment, where everything works perfectly. I would wait until the RMC1+ is released. I am not sure that is such a good advice taking into account historical data.
XMC-1 just like current gen now got stable just before release of XMC-2 and the rest of the current gen, which in turn were unstable until basically now. So if the pattern repeats, new gen will have a hell of a bumpy ride for another rather longer while.
My advice is to go with RMC-1 now, if it is sufficient for your needs. Enjoy great sound and mostly stable operation and when new gen is released you can observe what happens and decided to upgrade (via upgrade program) or not.
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Post by Lsc on May 24, 2024 17:18:07 GMT -5
I would wait until the RMC1+ is released. I am not sure that is such a good advice taking into account historical data. XMC-1 just like current gen now got stable just before release of XMC-2 and the rest of the current gen, which in turn were unstable until basically now. So if the pattern repeats, new gen will have a hell of a bumpy ride for another rather longer while.
My advice is to go with RMC-1 now, if it is sufficient for your needs. Enjoy great sound and mostly stable operation and when new gen is released you can observe what happens and decided to upgrade (via upgrade program) or not.
I’d never advise anyone that I wouldn’t take myself. This includes buying an obsolete processor that will not be supported in the near term. The other option is to steer clear of Emotiva processors. This gen and the next. I personally have not recommended anyone to buy a XMC2 because of its potential pitfalls but I have enjoyed using mine despite a few drawbacks. To go off on a slight tangent here, I recently bought a 2012 Lexus LS460 based on bs recommendations of existing owners. Turned out to be a potential money pit and was not even reliable. I ended up trading it in a month later and took a slight hit. Misery loves company was the lesson learned here 🫤. |
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Post by aliensound on May 24, 2024 17:54:15 GMT -5
Anyone here have or tried both the RMC1/XMC-2 and also got a Anthem AVM90? Is losing DIRAC mean no one here would try the AVM90.
Have found very few issues/problems at least online with the AVM90. I use my XMC-2 everyday I know that it has some issues if you connect certain hardware at the same time and tends to do something different ever time you turn it on even with firmware 3.2.
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Post by sebna on May 24, 2024 23:18:59 GMT -5
Anyone here have or tried both the RMC1/XMC-2 and also got a Anthem AVM90? Is losing DIRAC mean no one here would try the AVM90. Have found very few issues/problems at least online with the AVM90. I use my XMC-2 everyday I know that it has some issues if you connect certain hardware at the same time and tends to do something different ever time you turn it on even with firmware 3.2. I did my extensive research recently as I was close to pulling the trigger on AVM90 and the below was the outcome:
They are quite evenly matched for sound but: AVM90 has tendencies to be bright sounding (a big no-no for me) AVM90 has fake XLR outputs measuring worse than RCA (that was painful discovery as I have fully and truly balanced topology in my system) AVM90 has it's own quirks, which granted are minimal and mostly related to setting up EQ - other than that it is probably the most sable high end processor out there bar Storm Audio.
AVM90 EQ is a limiting factor (which can be a god send with it's limited ability of being tweaked, depending on your needs)
AVM90 is way over priced for what it offers (in my book). There is at leat one case known of AVM90 blowing some speakers up due to random continuos blast of noise.
3-yr warranty for such high price of AVM90 is rather a poor joke!
I spoke with two dealers who place AVM90 sound slightly below Emotiva.
I read about at least one user who does not miss his Trinnov a one bit after switching to AVM90.
Hope it helps.
In the end I parked my idea of moving to AVM90. Although I would not mind trying it in my system to see about SQ battle between the two brands and models. If it would be very close and ARC would not be a let down (which I doubt it would) and I managed to get it half price - I would probably switch. But that is a lot of ifs... of which some are hard to fulfil (especially the half price one  )
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Post by lavocat on May 25, 2024 0:30:02 GMT -5
The Amazon cube is set to fullhd, the projector is not a native 4k projector. The pioneer lx 500 runs directly on source Direct Mode , as most of my movies are on blu ray. Arc is uninteresting for the projector anyway, so I would of course put it on the HDMI 1 slot. However, both devices support 4k hdr up to 60hz, although of course only the TV Dolby Vision. It was only a matter of whether it works as I plan it with the last fw. WyreStorm Essentials 8K60 1:2 HDMI Splitter is not sold here in Germany, I was already looking for it. Normally, however, it should work like this, since the specification of the rmc1 is completely sufficient. As I said usually, I know that there were or still are problems? Not sold in Germany? It’s astonishing, because it’s sold in Switzerland (digitech.ch). Usually what is sold in Switzerland is also sold in Germany, and vice versa. However mine is coming from France. Maybe ask WyreStorm “where to buy” in Germany / UE…? |
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Post by superflyron on May 25, 2024 1:12:04 GMT -5
To be honest, I was actually only concerned with whether someone else here also has a TV plus projector. Apparently, there is only one here that has a similar combination of devices.
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Post by superflyron on May 25, 2024 1:15:04 GMT -5
Der Amazon Cube ist auf FullHD eingestellt, der Beamer ist kein nativer 4K Beamer. Der Pioneer LX 500 läuft direkt im Source Direct Mode, da die meisten meiner Filme auf Blu-Ray sind. Arc ist für den Beamer eh uninteressant, daher würde ich ihn natürlich auf den HDMI 1 Slot setzen. Beide Geräte unterstützen allerdings 4K HDR bis 60 Hz, wenn auch natürlich nur der TV Dolby Vision. Es ging nur darum, ob es so klappt, wie ich es mit der letzten FW vorhabe. WyreStorm Essentials 8K60 1:2 HDMI Splitter wird hier in Deutschland nicht verkauft, ich war schon auf der Suche danach. Normalerweise sollte es aber so klappen, da die Spezifikation des RMC1 vollkommen ausreicht. Wie gesagt, meistens weiß ich, dass es da Probleme gab oder noch gibt?
Ich meine, der RMC1 hat eigentlich alles was ich brauche, die Alternative wäre der cinema 30 von Marantz, ich weiß, dass ich beim Marantz solche Fragen nicht stellen muss, da sowieso alles funktioniert, ich besitze im Moment einen Marantz SR7012 und da funktioniert schon alles einwandfrei. Mir gefällt der RMC1 auch optisch deutlich besser als der von Marantz, ich finde, dass der RMC1 auch klanglich besser ist als ein AVR. |
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Post by PaulBe on May 25, 2024 5:52:51 GMT -5
Wird es in Deutschland nicht verkauft? Das ist erstaunlich, denn es wird in der Schweiz verkauft (digitech.ch). Normalerweise wird das, was in der Schweiz verkauft wird, auch in Deutschland verkauft und umgekehrt. Meins kommt jedoch aus Frankreich. Vielleicht fragen Sie sich, WyreStorm, „wo man es in Deutschland/der EU kaufen kann“ …?
Ich meine, der RMC1 hat eigentlich alles was ich brauche, die Alternative wäre der cinema 30 von Marantz, ich weiß, dass ich beim Marantz solche Fragen nicht stellen muss, da sowieso alles funktioniert, ich besitze im Moment einen Marantz SR7012 und da funktioniert schon alles einwandfrei. Mir gefällt der RMC1 auch optisch deutlich besser als der von Marantz, ich finde, dass der RMC1 auch klanglich besser ist als ein AVR. Try writing in English. |
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Post by superflyron on May 25, 2024 5:55:57 GMT -5
Of course, there is also an alternative to the device, but normally it should work like this without an additional device in between.
I mean, the RMC1 actually has everything I need, the alternative would be the cinema 30 from Marantz, I know that I don't have to ask such questions about the Marantz, because everything works anyway, I own a Marantz SR7012 at the moment and everything works fine. I also like the RMC1 visually much better than the Marantz.
Sorry, I forgot to turn on the translator.
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Post by ttocs on May 25, 2024 6:51:05 GMT -5
Good evening everyone, my name is Tayfun, I'm new here in the forum and I'm from Germany. I'm about to get a rmc1 . What about the Hdmi in the meantime, I intend to use an LG oled, together with a jvc x7900 as a player pioneer lx500 and Amazon cube. The jvc projector is equipped with a 15m fiber optic cable ugreen Is the brand of Hdmi cable. Has anyone here also connected a projector and a TV to the rmc1? I own a marantz sr7012 at the moment, where everything works perfectly. I used to have a projector and tv panel connected concurrently. If both are powered on at the same time, the device with the lowest resolution will dictate the output resolution from both HDMI Outputs from the processor. When my projector with lower resolution was powered off, maximum resolution would then flow through the processor to the tv panel. Epson PJ 1080P on and 4K TV on = 1080P being output from both processor HDMI Outputs. Epson PJ 1080P off and 4K TV on = 4K being output from both processor HDMI Outputs. The catch is if one has a projector that keeps sending a signal while it is in a standby mode, and not truly powered off. This is when the resolution conflict will remain present and the only solution would be to disconnect power from the projector to allow maximum resolution to flow to a tv panel. |
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Post by superflyron on May 25, 2024 8:15:32 GMT -5
Ok so this is an individual matter, I don't know how it is with the Jvc projector. No idea if it sends edit data to the receiver in standby mode.
I just set the image output to dual on my marantz sr7012, I immediately lost the signal so no more image via Amazon cube on the TV.
I strongly suspect that exactly the same will be the case with the rmc1, only that there is no selection of Hdmi outputs available at emotiva.
I want to sincerely thank you all for the information, I think I'd rather take the Marantz, because I don't want to pay so much money for a device just to have to buy another device to make it work.
Ok the marantz is by far uglier than the emotiva, maybe it sounds worse than the rmc1, the question is just how much worse?
But the huge advantage is with the Marantz, it will most likely work immediately without any problems, because this is already my third reciever from denon + marantz. No receiver has ever caused problems, everything has always worked.
Except apparently the dual screen mode, but that's really hard to implement, I just can't understand why emotiva doesn't have the option to select only one display at a time.
This can't really work with today's devices, because all devices now send some sh**, no matter if switched on or standby.
The whole thing is a real shame because I would have really preferred to buy the Emotiva, but I run the whole thing in the living room and need a TV and a projector.
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Post by aliensound on May 25, 2024 10:37:22 GMT -5
Anyone here have or tried both the RMC1/XMC-2 and also got a Anthem AVM90? Is losing DIRAC mean no one here would try the AVM90. Have found very few issues/problems at least online with the AVM90. I use my XMC-2 everyday I know that it has some issues if you connect certain hardware at the same time and tends to do something different ever time you turn it on even with firmware 3.2. I did my extensive research recently as I was close to pulling the trigger on AVM90 and the below was the outcome:
They are quite evenly matched for sound but: AVM90 has tendencies to be bright sounding (a big no-no for me) AVM90 has fake XLR outputs measuring worse than RCA (that was painful discovery as I have fully and truly balanced topology in my system) AVM90 has it's own quirks, which granted are minimal and mostly related to setting up EQ - other than that it is probably the most sable high end processor out there bar Storm Audio.
AVM90 EQ is a limiting factor (which can be a god send with it's limited ability of being tweaked, depending on your needs)
AVM90 is way over priced for what it offers (in my book). There is at leat one case known of AVM90 blowing some speakers up due to random continuos blast of noise.
3-yr warranty for such high price of AVM90 is rather a poor joke!
I spoke with two dealers who place AVM90 sound slightly below Emotiva.
I read about at least one user who does not miss his Trinnov a one bit after switching to AVM90.
Hope it helps.
In the end I parked my idea of moving to AVM90. Although I would not mind trying it in my system to see about SQ battle between the two brands and models. If it would be very close and ARC would not be a let down (which I doubt it would) and I managed to get it half price - I would probably switch. But that is a lot of ifs... of which some are hard to fulfil (especially the half price one )
Thanks for the reply. As far as the "AVM90 has tendencies to be bright sounding" without knowing the speakers and amps used I don't consider it a deciding factor. I've read many posts that the latest Marantz sounds like a Marantz with different speakers that is a deal breaker for me. Many more posts say how the AVM90 sounds great. Where I am their are no places to get a demo.
As to the "AVM90 has fake XLR outputs measuring worse than RCA" I have my doubts anyone would hear the difference. I wish I could get a demo or owner to help determine if it is a factor.
When I used a earlier firmware I also got loud blast of noise from my XMC-2 lucky it only happened twice and never again with newer firmware. Now I expect to get no more than 90 days to a 1 year warranty more than that is a bonus. I agree at this price it should be at least a 5 year warranty.
Have seen the AVM90 go on sale to about $6K but not half.
My deciding factor is does it have more issues/bugs instead of fewer(all processors have issues I have read) and the SQ must be at least the same or better.
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Post by sebna on May 25, 2024 19:37:51 GMT -5
I did my extensive research recently as I was close to pulling the trigger on AVM90 and the below was the outcome:
They are quite evenly matched for sound but: AVM90 has tendencies to be bright sounding (a big no-no for me) AVM90 has fake XLR outputs measuring worse than RCA (that was painful discovery as I have fully and truly balanced topology in my system) AVM90 has it's own quirks, which granted are minimal and mostly related to setting up EQ - other than that it is probably the most sable high end processor out there bar Storm Audio.
AVM90 EQ is a limiting factor (which can be a god send with it's limited ability of being tweaked, depending on your needs)
AVM90 is way over priced for what it offers (in my book). There is at leat one case known of AVM90 blowing some speakers up due to random continuos blast of noise.
3-yr warranty for such high price of AVM90 is rather a poor joke!
I spoke with two dealers who place AVM90 sound slightly below Emotiva.
I read about at least one user who does not miss his Trinnov a one bit after switching to AVM90.
Hope it helps.
In the end I parked my idea of moving to AVM90. Although I would not mind trying it in my system to see about SQ battle between the two brands and models. If it would be very close and ARC would not be a let down (which I doubt it would) and I managed to get it half price - I would probably switch. But that is a lot of ifs... of which some are hard to fulfil (especially the half price one )
Thanks for the reply. As far as the "AVM90 has tendencies to be bright sounding" without knowing the speakers and amps used I don't consider it a deciding factor. I've read many posts that the latest Marantz sounds like a Marantz with different speakers that is a deal breaker for me. Many more posts say how the AVM90 sounds great. Where I am their are no places to get a demo.
As to the "AVM90 has fake XLR outputs measuring worse than RCA" I have my doubts anyone would hear the difference. I wish I could get a demo or owner to help determine if it is a factor.
When I used a earlier firmware I also got loud blast of noise from my XMC-2 lucky it only happened twice and never again with newer firmware. Now I expect to get no more than 90 days to a 1 year warranty more than that is a bonus. I agree at this price it should be at least a 5 year warranty.
Have seen the AVM90 go on sale to about $6K but not half.
My deciding factor is does it have more issues/bugs instead of fewer(all processors have issues I have read) and the SQ must be at least the same or better.
AVM90 is using Sabre so that is already a good indication of potential high frequency tendencies it might or might not have. It is something that I read. It would not be a problem for me to get it as I would need to confirm it for myself.
I spoke to owner who had both for testing (AV10 and AVM90) and he bought AVM90 saying it was an easy choice as AVM90 was making sound alive, 3D and realistic while AV10 quite the opposite. I guess we all know what Marantz sound is / can be like.
I can get AVM90 with 5yr warranty (locally in Ireland, EU) but I just don't see value in its even slightly discounted MRSP price tag (I can get it for 7k euro delivered). I also could have gotten AVM90 for nearly half price 2nd hand with 1.5yr of outstanding warranty but I did not go for it. That might have been a mistake but there were some circumstances about the sale I was not too keen about so in the end nothing is worth more to me than my peace of mind.
As to fake XLR and not being able to hear it, maybe, maybe not, but forgetting about that part for a second, it took me some years to collect 3 quite high end hifi stereo amplifiers, fully differential (so 4 amp sections per channel), which really make a difference with high sens horns I am using to then buy expensive processor, which not only does not do balanced but, which makes it "balanced" out put the worse implementation of the two... it just does not compute in my world
Yes, the risk of high volume blasts is what will ultimately drive me away from XMC-2 (and what has caused me to look for replacement, even tough it has not happened to me). It is a shame as it sounds so good.
That is exactly my criteria. You will not like it, but I think I found the fitting device. Storm Audio fits the bill. By my research, it is the most stable processor on the market and by far. It is also one of the best sounding ones and from what I gathered, one of the easiest one to get close to it's max performance at home, without hiring someone like Adam Pelz or other pro audio calibrators who would happily spend 2 days at your home and charge arm and leg for their (I am sure worth it) services.
If I knew my room and system would not change any more I would get a pro audio calibrator to squeeze max out of my system and be done with it, but my room is far from my considering it done so it would be wasted money.
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