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Post by LuisV on Feb 24, 2023 11:29:39 GMT -5
Forgot to discuss the multiple network question, I assume you mean wireless SSID. To be honest, unless you need to provide some sort of QOS (quality of service) or add another security layer, then why add another SSID or wireless network for that room, never mind simply for Roon purposes. It's an over complication that isn't needed... you simply need a wireless access point in that room and since there is an existing ethernet cable there, you have an easy way to fix things with a switch and an AP.
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Post by LuisV on Feb 24, 2023 11:34:19 GMT -5
I think I would add that, especially if you're doing this all at once, it's best to go with several of the same make and model of access points. There are standards but, since there might be overlaps, you're less likely to have problems that way. (You can at least assume that the most compatibility testing will have been done between identical units.) Here's my quick and dirty recommendation... Since you have an ethernet cable at the AppleTV within that room, here's what I would do: - Purchase a 5 - 8 port switch
- Purchase a wireless access point
- Unless you have extras, purchase an ethernet cable
- Disconnect the ethernet cable from the AppleTV and connect it to Port 1 of the switch
- Connect the AppleTV to Port 2 via ethernet
- Connect the wireless access point via ethernet on Port 3
Follow the directions to the wireless access point to enable and configure the new access point. You should be able to leverage the existing SSID information from your router and therefore as your wireless devices roam throughout the house, they will automatically switch between access points (router and new access point) based on signal strength. This resolves any wireless issues within that room; probably the entire side of the home. For a better more robust setup... purchase two or more wireless access points, based on home size and number of "dead zones". Connect both via ethernet and then disable the wireless antenna of your router thus allowing the access points to provide the wireless signal. Your router is then offloaded from wireless functions and should in itself work better. One or multiple of these wireless access points within the home, will resolve most if not all of your wireless issues.  Agreed Keith and that is why I provided the second option... multiple APs and disable the wireless function of the router. Do it once and do it right... at least for this discussion, the wireless aspect. |
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Post by cawgijoe on Feb 24, 2023 12:33:17 GMT -5
Wired is defintely the way to go. I have all my AV equipment that needs to connect to the internet via ethernet cable direct connected to my 16 port switch which is connected physically to the router.
Works great. The only thing I use wifi for are cell phones, laptops, and Nest cameras/doorbell. This all works well.
I will be moving in a year or two to a new build and need to decide whether to do the "network closet approach" or just continue with an ethernet drop to each room I need it in and adding an ethernet switch to connect components to. I'm leaning towards the latter.
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Post by garbulky on Feb 24, 2023 17:38:24 GMT -5
You've noted the main catch with routers... Routers tend to be rather particular about what protocols they pass... Whereas wired switches by default pass all Ethernet traffic. And, while most routers have at least some speed limitations, all but the lowliest of switches these days operate at full Ethernet speed. Option 4 is a no-brainer to try first - simply do it and if it solves the problem you are done. If not, go from there. Multiple routers - the only issue is Windows and certain other network protocols do not pass through routers (easily). A mesh solves this issue, but has its own pros/cons. Keith how are Ethernet switches so fast? I’ve bought a 4 way splitter for 20 bucks. |
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Post by rbk123 on Feb 24, 2023 23:09:19 GMT -5
Keith how are Ethernet switches so fast? I’ve bought a 4 way splitter for 20 bucks. Because they are just simple repeaters. No computation or logic is involved. |
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Post by garbulky on Feb 25, 2023 15:47:50 GMT -5
Keith how are Ethernet switches so fast? I’ve bought a 4 way splitter for 20 bucks. Because they are just simple repeaters. No computation or logic is involved. Surely there's more than that? It's got four different ports that each go to different devices. Wouldn't it require different processing for each one? |
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Post by Boomzilla on Feb 25, 2023 19:02:16 GMT -5
Surely there's more than that? It's got four different ports that each go to different devices. Wouldn't it require different processing for each one? As I understand it, no. All the ports are connected in parallel, and there are no electronics involved. Each port is responsible for its own traffic control - the switch does nothing. |
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Post by stiehl11 on Feb 25, 2023 19:02:27 GMT -5
Because they are just simple repeaters. No computation or logic is involved. Surely there's more than that? It's got four different ports that each go to different devices. Wouldn't it require different processing for each one? There are hubs, switches, and routers: hubs are "dumb" devices, switches switch between ports with very little processing (hence why they're faster than routers), and routers route which means a decent amount of overhead as they have to know where to route the signal across a LAN as well as a lot of other different things. That's the 10,000 feet view of networking. |
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Post by millst on Feb 26, 2023 12:58:57 GMT -5
Some other free options to consider:
1) Use 2.5GHz instead of 5GHz (lower throughput, but better distance)
2) Try different channels. Usually either 1, 6, or 11 are best since they don't overlap. This is less likely to help if you don't have much contention (like in a rural setting)
3) Reposition your router and/or reorient its antennas
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Post by rbk123 on Feb 26, 2023 18:05:55 GMT -5
Surely there's more than that? It's got four different ports that each go to different devices. Wouldn't it require different processing for each one? Nope, they just broadcast everything to all the ports. |
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