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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 20, 2023 21:35:51 GMT -5
They’ve been doing analog volume on various products for years, and with LCSeminole ’s statement above, I’d expect they’re doing it again … but I’m sure Keith will explain what’s actually going on. I thought the previous XDA had a digital volume control, I might be wrong I think Yes, but the previous XDAs didn’t have an analog input, I’d expect these volume controls to be more like the XMC/RMC processors. |
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Post by selind40 on Apr 20, 2023 21:44:58 GMT -5
I thought the previous XDA had a digital volume control, I might be wrong I think Yes, but the previous XDAs didn’t have an analog input, I’d expect these volume controls to be more like the XMC/RMC processors. DC-1 has analog input and volume control……so maybe a combo of the XDA & DC-1…..but I admittedly don’t have as much experience when it comes to DAC’s and such as many on here, just a thought. |
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Post by Lsc on Apr 21, 2023 1:13:23 GMT -5
Just curious as to why a DAC needs an analog input. Isn’t that the purpose of the DAC to take a digital signal as input and output an analog signal?
Does the XDA-3 double as a preamp? Is there an HT bypass then?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 21, 2023 1:16:51 GMT -5
Just curious as to why a DAC needs an analog input. Isn’t that the purpose of the DAC to take a digital signal as input and output an analog signal? Does the XDA-3 double as a preamp? Is there an HT bypass then? Read the previous posts in the thread, here’s one quote from Keith “ It's a full featured component that can be used as a DAC source component or a full-on preamp and control center.”, bypass is also discussed. |
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Post by vcautokid on Apr 21, 2023 9:10:31 GMT -5
Well it has HDMI ARC hmmm, now that is a nice touch. I am curious how good is this Going to be! Do I want one? First DAC that is not a half rack thing unless it is giga bucks money I have seen for others. Well okay Emotiva you showed. Out with the details. We are listening.
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Post by Lonnie on Apr 21, 2023 9:38:05 GMT -5
Lonnie told me that the analog input is a pass through, what goes in comes out untouched. One thing to note about this. The audio does go through the volume control, but other than that, it is un-touched. Lonnie |
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Post by Lonnie on Apr 21, 2023 9:40:18 GMT -5
They’ve been doing analog volume on various products for years, and with LCSeminole ’s statement above, I’d expect they’re doing it again … but I’m sure Keith will explain what’s actually going on. I thought the previous XDA had a digital volume control, I might be wrong I think OK, just to clarify things here. The volume control is a analog resistor ladder that is digitally controlled. So the audio is always handled in the analog realm, but the knob goes to a micro-controller that tells the resistor ladder where to be. Lonnie |
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Post by Lsc on Apr 21, 2023 11:21:35 GMT -5
Just curious as to why a DAC needs an analog input. Isn’t that the purpose of the DAC to take a digital signal as input and output an analog signal? Does the XDA-3 double as a preamp? Is there an HT bypass then? Read the previous posts in the thread, here’s one quote from Keith “ It's a full featured component that can be used as a DAC source component or a full-on preamp and control center.”, bypass is also discussed. I see. Its name is XDA-3 DAC  . The fact of the matter is that if I can bypass the XMC2 with the XDA-3 but still incorporate it so I don’t have to pull XLRs to go back and forth, it would be a nice unit. This is assuming that it has a very clean preamp stage ie cleaner than the XMC2. |
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Post by geebo on Apr 21, 2023 13:43:33 GMT -5
I like what I see with the new DAC. Going to have to seriously consider one for myself.
When might we see it in the cart?
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Post by cawgijoe on Apr 21, 2023 13:52:48 GMT -5
Have we been told a price yet?
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 21, 2023 14:21:09 GMT -5
Have we been told a price yet? Somebody mentioned $699 but it is not official yet. |
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Post by KeithL on Apr 21, 2023 14:38:35 GMT -5
They're just going into production so it will be a couple of months yet. We'll keep everyone updated in more detail as they get closer. I like what I see with the new DAC. Going to have to seriously consider one for myself. When might we see it in the cart? |
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Post by geebo on Apr 21, 2023 15:00:35 GMT -5
They're just going into production so it will be a couple of months yet. We'll keep everyone updated in more detail as they get closer. I like what I see with the new DAC. Going to have to seriously consider one for myself. When might we see it in the cart? You'll also be needing some 1RU rack ears. |
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Post by geebo on Apr 21, 2023 15:12:15 GMT -5
And time for a stupid question: Can the HDMI ARC input accept audio from a normal HDMI feed say from an Oppo 203 for playing audio?
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 21, 2023 19:47:49 GMT -5
And time for a stupid question: Can the HDMI ARC input accept audio from a normal HDMI feed say from an Oppo 203 for playing audio? I would say yes. I have an M51 NAD with HDMI and I use an older apple TV to do airplay. Actually I think I bought the ATV from you 😂 |
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Post by Lsc on Apr 22, 2023 9:14:04 GMT -5
Looks like the XDA-3 will be released too far in the future with details to be released later which puts a damper in my decision making process.
Still it looks like a nice product so I wish Emotiva well on it.
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Post by Lonnie on Apr 24, 2023 8:14:09 GMT -5
And time for a stupid question: Can the HDMI ARC input accept audio from a normal HDMI feed say from an Oppo 203 for playing audio? No, it is strictly ARC which means it is part of a HDMI TX. To accept a normal input it would have to be HDMI RX. Sorry, it is not possible to make it dual purpose. Great question though. One that I am sure will come up more and more, so better to answer it now. Lonnie |
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Post by wizardofoz on Apr 24, 2023 9:02:25 GMT -5
Be watching this one
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Post by KeithL on Apr 24, 2023 11:45:01 GMT -5
Errrrr..... They just went into production. And I just posted most of the details, and a link to the manual, in the official thread. What other details would you be wanting? Looks like the XDA-3 will be released too far in the future with details to be released later which puts a damper in my decision making process. Still it looks like a nice product so I wish Emotiva well on it. |
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Post by KeithL on Apr 24, 2023 11:52:35 GMT -5
It's a "digitally controlled analog ladder network volume control". That's a fancy way of saying that.... - it's an analog ladder resistor network (actually several - one for each side of the balanced signal on each channel) - which is being fed an analog input and delivers an analog output - with analog switches that select which tap on the ladder to use - all controlled by a digital controller - and all packaged in a solid state integrated circuit Since we don't use the DAC's digital volume control the output of the DAC is always at "full volume".... Then both the signal from the analog inputs, and the output of the DAC, go through the analog volume control. @keithl can you explain how the XDA-3 volume control will work if its gonna have analog and digital inputs? |
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