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Post by KeithL on Apr 17, 2023 11:13:19 GMT -5
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Post by fbczar on Apr 17, 2023 19:41:50 GMT -5
This thread is for discussion about the new XDA-3 Differential Reference DAC. Keith, Will the DACs in the G4 processors be similar to the XDA-3? |
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Post by DavidR on Apr 18, 2023 8:32:18 GMT -5
No info on the Emotiva website or the internet.
Don't know what to ask as I don't know anything about it.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 18, 2023 10:09:57 GMT -5
Well, we should probably at least have the photos from Axpona posted by geebo and taken by LCSeminole. The most unusual feature I see is the analog inputs, it seems possible they could function as an HT Bypass, depending on the analog topology. Another possibility (like the DC-1), would be adding a phono preamp, or other analog device.  [/quote]  |
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Post by LCSeminole on Apr 18, 2023 10:12:40 GMT -5
Lonnie told me that the analog input is a pass through, what goes in comes out untouched.
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 18, 2023 10:51:03 GMT -5
Price?
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Post by DavidR on Apr 18, 2023 12:23:27 GMT -5
Thanks for uploading the photos.
So, I guess there will be no DC-2.
Yes, very interesting with the analog INputs.
Happy to see a USB input as there was not one on the ERC-4 DAC and was the reason I didn't buy one. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 18, 2023 12:24:40 GMT -5
I think we’ll have to watch Keith’s Official XDA-3 Info Thread for that, but I believe both the XDA-1 and XDA-2 debuted at $350. At this point I’d expect the XDA-3 would be higher, though that’s just speculation. |
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Post by Boomzilla on Apr 18, 2023 18:59:36 GMT -5
Inflation - (inflation) - INFLATION
Never count it out…
It never sleeps, always grows, and its effects can amaze. As a girlfriend once commented, “Check your crotch - if the situation’s the same there, you can consider it beneficial.”
If only…
I’d hope for the prices y’all are quoting, but realistically, it is what it is.
Boom
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 18, 2023 19:31:07 GMT -5
I’m sure that it will sound great like a lot of the competition. The question is how much are we willing to pay. In my case, no AES/EBU is a con. No volume knob is also a con if it has preamp capabilities.
I think it will need some sort of BT or airplay or that type of connectivity to make it more attractive for me.
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Post by KeithL on Apr 19, 2023 9:09:57 GMT -5
I'm going to start putting up all of the technical details in a few days (at latest over the weekend). (We'll announce the price when it's been finalized.) You've already seen a few pictures from the show... so look at the back panel carefully (hint)... As you can see this is not just a cute little black box, with a display, and one set of outputs. It's a full featured component that can be used as a DAC source component or a full-on preamp and control center. I think we’ll have to watch Keith’s Official XDA-3 Info Thread for that, but I believe both the XDA-1 and XDA-2 debuted at $350. At this point I’d expect the XDA-3 would be higher, though that’s just speculation. |
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Post by garbulky on Apr 19, 2023 18:01:22 GMT -5
Is it dual mono dacs?
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Post by audiobill on Apr 19, 2023 18:28:48 GMT -5
And a discrete dual mono output stage, quiet power supply and Roon readiness?
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 19, 2023 18:39:31 GMT -5
Dirac?
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Post by Keith M on Apr 19, 2023 21:08:51 GMT -5
I was at AXPONA on Friday. The Emotiva rep said it would be $699. |
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Post by KeithL on Apr 20, 2023 8:41:38 GMT -5
OK...like I said... I'm going to start releasing actual details in the other thread in a day or so... But... no... no Dirac. A DAC is a relatively simple device that takes digital signals and uses a digital-to-analog converter chip to convert them into analog. Even though the circuitry involved may end up being quite complex it is quite simple in terms of overall function. In contrast, running the correction filters for Dirac Live is a quite complex form of digital processing, that runs on a DSP or some similar computer-type processing chip. The same is actually true for streaming; a "streamer" is basically a computer that connects to the Internet, downloads music, and plays it. Dirac Live is generally implemented on processors for two reasons: 1. A processor already has the necessary DSPs and other computing capability. (So you're "running another program on your computer" rather than "adding a computer to a device that doesn't have one just so you can run that one program".) 2. It is a rather more core feature for multi-channel surround sound. (Surround sound requires you to configure things like distance delays, and setting relative levels between each speaker, while stereo basically does not.) However, in order to implement Dirac Live in "a DAC" or "a preamp"... You have to start by adding digital processing hardware and software (firmware)... And, at that point, you have a "digital audio processor" rather than "a DAC"... (Just as you cannot simply "add air conditioning on a bicycle" - because it relies on other stuff that most bicycles don't include.) |
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Post by ttocs on Apr 20, 2023 9:10:14 GMT -5
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 20, 2023 19:27:50 GMT -5
@keithl can you explain how the XDA-3 volume control will work if its gonna have analog and digital inputs?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 20, 2023 20:08:45 GMT -5
@keithl can you explain how the XDA-3 volume control will work if its gonna have analog and digital inputs? Lonnie told me that the analog input is a pass through, what goes in comes out untouched. They’ve been doing analog volume on various products for years, and with LCSeminole ’s statement above, I’d expect they’re doing it again … but I’m sure Keith will explain what’s actually going on. |
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 20, 2023 20:47:36 GMT -5
@keithl can you explain how the XDA-3 volume control will work if its gonna have analog and digital inputs? Lonnie told me that the analog input is a pass through, what goes in comes out untouched. They’ve been doing analog volume on various products for years, and with LCSeminole ’s statement above, I’d expect they’re doing it again … but I’m sure Keith will explain what’s actually going on. I thought the previous XDA had a digital volume control, I might be wrong I think |
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