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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 19, 2024 12:08:41 GMT -5
Bose buys McIntosh Though it seems like a poor match (or an April Fools), they’ve been owned by investment groups in the past, at least this is an audio company.
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Post by monkumonku on Nov 19, 2024 12:10:55 GMT -5
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 19, 2024 12:16:29 GMT -5
Bose buys McIntosh Though it seems like a poor match (or an April Fools), they’ve been owned by investment groups in the past, at least this is an audio company. Is there a McIntosh 901 in our future  To be introduced at the next Berkshire Hathaway Annual Shareholders Meeting in Omaha, Nebraska... |
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Post by klinemj on Nov 19, 2024 12:39:11 GMT -5
Wow...a friend used to have Sonus Fabers, and they sounded excellent. Hopefully, Bose doesn't mess with them in a Bosian sort of way...
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Post by monkumonku on Nov 19, 2024 12:49:00 GMT -5
Bose buys McIntosh Though it seems like a poor match (or an April Fools), they’ve been owned by investment groups in the past, at least this is an audio company. On the other hand, perhaps the investment groups allowed a lot of autonomy, whereas the "audio company" new owner might try fiddling with and directing the technology. |
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 19, 2024 19:51:45 GMT -5
McIntosh now owned by Bose - what irony! It’s equivalent to Yugo buying Rolls-Royce…. Or maybe British Petroleum buying ANYTHING!
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Post by vcautokid on Nov 19, 2024 19:55:23 GMT -5
Not a surprise at all. Masimo is selling out all of Sound United and Voxx International is in trouble too. Some brands may start going away.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 19, 2024 20:14:28 GMT -5
Wow...a friend used to have Sonus Fabers, and they sounded excellent. Hopefully, Bose doesn't mess with them in a Bosian sort of way... Mark I’ve never heard them, but have heard many good things about them, especially their immaculate build quality. |
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Post by audiosyndrome on Nov 19, 2024 21:33:23 GMT -5
Too too many manufacturers. Not enough customers for high end (expensive) two channel equipment. I’m afraid we’re going to see many high end brands disappear in the next few years.
But Stereophile had the balls to put a preamp costing $150K on a cover several months ago. Get real!!
Russ
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 19, 2024 21:52:12 GMT -5
Employee of 2016. Give her a pair of McIntosh 901s! YAY! Maximum soundstage and no focus. |
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 19, 2024 23:33:53 GMT -5
Too too many manufacturers. Not enough customers for high end (expensive) two channel equipment. I’m afraid we’re going to see many high end brands disappear in the next few years. But Stereophile had the balls to put a preamp costing $150K on a cover several months ago. Get real!! Russ We should have as many manufacturers as want to be manufacturers. If a manufacturer wants to make a $150K preamp, and a customer wants to buy a $150K preamp, that is their business. Balls to the walls... I bought a $3.6K SOTA 2 channel preamp. It looks kind of industrial. It's really good! It might not suit someone who wants to buy a $150K preamp. Get real about freedom of choices. No one is going to make you buy any preamp, let alone a $150K preamp. |
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Post by audiosyndrome on Nov 20, 2024 10:10:31 GMT -5
Once again Paulbe completely misses my simple to understand point; too few customers for too many manufacturers. Why were McIntosh (and Sonus Faber) sold to Bose? Probably no longer profitable.
Who’s buying $9,500 McIntosh preamps? Few I bet. Who’s buying $40,000 SF speakers? Even less I bet. That’s the obvious point, today’s YOUNG music lovers aren’t spending that kind of cash. Only us alta kakas are, or more likely did but no more.
Further to another point, a recent article in a Stereophile news letter stated “how easy it should be to bring young listeners into the fold”. Does a preamp costing $150K further that goal? 😳 Of course not. But if anyone is wealthy enough, or stupid enough, to afford that, more power to them.
Russ
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Post by audiosyndrome on Nov 20, 2024 10:14:23 GMT -5
Also, the last man (manufacturer) standing will probably be Emotiva, Schiit and the like. Inexpensive and good value for the $$$.
Russ
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 20, 2024 10:15:16 GMT -5
Once again Paulbe completely misses my simple to understand point; too few customers for too many manufacturers. Why were McIntosh (and Sonus Faber) sold to Bose? Probably no longer profitable. Who’s buying $9,500 McIntosh preamps? Few I bet. Who’s buying $40,000 SF speakers? Even less I bet. That’s the obvious point, today’s YOUNG music lovers aren’t spending that kind of cash. Only us alta kakas are, or more likely did but no more. Further to another point, a recent article in a Stereophile news letter stated “how easy it should be to bring young listeners into the fold”. Does a preamp costing $150K further that goal? 😳 Of course not. But if anyone is wealthy enough, or stupid enough, to afford that, more power to them. Russ So. We agree. No points missed. No points to make. No score for you... You can purchase what you want. I can purchase what I want. The wealthy and stupid can purchase what they want. It's win-win for all of us. The WEF loses. I'll stand down at this point. God Bless You audiosyndrome. |
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Post by monkumonku on Nov 20, 2024 10:36:25 GMT -5
The beauty of our capitalist system is that there's a wealth of audio equipment suppliers at all levels which gives us a lot of choices. Supply and demand will ensure that those who have desirable products will prosper at whatever the price point, and those who don't will go out of business. But at least no one is forcing anything on us and we have the luxury of having a wide selection.
If indeed McIntosh and Sonus Faber weren't profitable, then either they have to adjust or go out of business.
I'm thinking a lot of McIntosh owners are not feeling too happy about being associated with Bose. I guess there will be a distinction made between PreBose and PostBose McIntosh gear.
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 20, 2024 10:57:00 GMT -5
The beauty of our capitalist system is that there's a wealth of audio equipment suppliers at all levels which gives us a lot of choices. Supply and demand will ensure that those who have desirable products will prosper at whatever the price point, and those who don't will go out of business. But at least no one is forcing anything on us and we have the luxury of having a wide selection. If indeed McIntosh and Sonus Faber weren't profitable, then either they have to adjust or go out of business. I'm thinking a lot of McIntosh owners are not feeling too happy about being associated with Bose. I guess there will be a distinction made between PreBose and PostBose McIntosh gear. I can't wait for the PostBose McIntosh gear review lament that pines for PreBose McIntosh gear. Sellers of used PreBose McIntosh gear wil pile on of course. |
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Post by jjkessler on Nov 20, 2024 12:03:05 GMT -5
I’m excited for the rechargeable McIntosh tube powered beach speaker with this acquisition
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 20, 2024 12:12:52 GMT -5
McIntosh has always struck me (at least prior to their home theater debut) as an expensive but safe choice. You could buy just about any of their stereo products with confidence that you were getting:
1. Better than average sound (not state of the art, but at least better than most) and
2. Much better than average construction quality
3. More controls & features than most
Never having bought any McIntosh gear new, my opinions are necessarily based on gear that I got used. All the things I’ve just said about McIntosh would apply to Bryston gear too.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 20, 2024 12:23:32 GMT -5
McIntosh has always struck me (at least prior to their home theater debut) as an expensive but safe choice. You could buy just about any of their stereo products with confidence that you were getting: 1. Better than average sound (not state of the art, but at least better than most) and 2. Much better than average construction quality 3. More controls & features than most Never having bought any McIntosh gear new, my opinions are necessarily based on gear that I got used. All the things I’ve just said about McIntosh would apply to Bryston gear too. Agreed, and I’d add: 4. Way above average esthetics (though as always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder). |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 20, 2024 12:30:45 GMT -5
… I'm thinking a lot of McIntosh owners are not feeling too happy about being associated with Bose. I guess there will be a distinction made between PreBose and PostBose McIntosh gear. This sounds akin to what happened with vintage Fender guitars when Leo Fender sold his business to CBS. Guitars, basses, and amps made before 1965 became known as “Pre CBS”, and generally have a greater value. My early ‘65 Stratocaster rides the coattails of the “Fender” era because CBS used the existing parts inventory until they ran out. |
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