swan speakers

[caper334]

just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the 6.2 swan speaker or the 6.1 system i am looking at those and the axiom speakers m80 any comments would be great

[bigred7078]

Jan 31, 2010 16:48:44 GMT -5 caper334 said:

just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the 6.2 swan speaker or the 6.1 system i am looking at those and the axiom speakers m80 any comments would be great

I used to own some 5.1's. They were pretty good speakers. I contemplated getting the 6.1's forever but finally decided to go another direction. Many people have said that the 6.1 is a better speaker than the 6.2. YMMV

[jlafrenz]

Jan 31, 2010 16:48:44 GMT -5 caper334 said:

just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the 6.2 swan speaker or the 6.1 system i am looking at those and the axiom speakers m80 any comments would be great

The Swans are way different than the Axioms in my mind. I felt that the Swans were a bit bright and that the Axioms were a bit darker and seemed to have more low end. I will state that I listened to both in 2 totally different environments and on different gear.

[caper334]

how do you like the vienna speakers yo have and were they expensive

[bigred7078]

Jan 31, 2010 19:01:18 GMT -5 caper334 said:

how do you like the vienna speakers yo have and were they expensive

I love'em. My Viennas retail for like $3300 ish

[caper334]

can yo get them in canada..if so where at...or possibly even shipped to canada....how would describe the bass and sound that they produce

[bootman]

Can you delete the duplicate thread you placed under subwoofers?

[jlafrenz]

Jan 31, 2010 20:16:14 GMT -5 caper334 said:

can yo get them in canada..if so where at...or possibly even shipped to canada....how would describe the bass and sound that they produce

Your best bet would be to contact Sumiko since they are the distributor for Vienna in North America.

www.sumikoaudio.net/

[turbo]

I love my m80's
Never heard swans but my father in law has rockets which are similar?? to swans and they sound great too. Little different than the m80's though.

[drew664]

I actually currently own the 6.1 towers from Swan (HiVi).



They were actually my first big purchase for upgrading my HT. I heard things in movies (birds chirping, wind, environment ambiances, etc) that I never noticed before with my other speakers. To be fair though, I was comparing them to a high end Onkyo 7.1 HTiB package speakers.

I'd agree in jlafrenz's assessment that the speakers come off as a bit bright. Not a bad thing though - just a different flavor.

I'm not going to sway you to the Swan side too much, but the owners thread over on AVS is a great resource to research these mostly internet direct speakers. The fit and finish on them is top notch, it's a beautiful product.

Let me know if you have questions about them.

[drew664]

Here is a post from that AVS owners thread comparing the 6.1 to the 6.2.

Thanks for the question. As you can imagine - this is one we get quite often. First - with respect to the sonic matching - the X.1 and X.2 Diva series have not been timbre matched. Though the voicing is similar, there is not a perfect sonic match between these lines. All timbre matching in the Diva series is done within each product category. In other words - all X.1 series are matched to each other - as are all X.2 series. Thus, when designing a X.1 or X.2 system, you can choose from any range of components within the line...though we do not recommend mixing between the two. In real world testing, the difference between something like the 6.1 and a X.2 series center channel is minimal and, in some cases, inaudible. That said, it is not a perfect match on paper - so our recommendation is to stay within the lines when building your system.

Second - with respect to the 6.1 vs. 6.2 question - this is another VERY common topic. Unfortunately for us...or should I say fortunately for you...Swans really outdid themselves on the 6.1. This is a speaker that almost single handedly redefined the high-end audio industry (as one of the first ID loudspeakers). Some of you might remember our "attention grabbing" unveiling of the Diva 6.1 (and the rest of the Diva line) at CES several years ago. To prove a point, we put this speaker side by side with the B&W Nautlius 802 (an incredible, and ridiculously expensive, loudspeaker) and made a staff of reviewers guess which they were hearing. Let's just say there were more than a few egos shattered over that particular weekend (and some interesting legal developments a few years later from a certain high-end speaker manufacturer).

One of the 6.1's biggest strengths is its ability to remain detailed, articulate, and balanced over a very wide power range. From whispers to wall-shaking explosions, the 6.1 presents a remarkable level of detail without ever overpowering the listener. Many speakers that offer this type of performance will cause fatigue after 20-30 minutes in front of the speaker…the 6.1 is the exact opposite. In fact, we've had several experiences with and feedback from our customers that have no idea how loud the speakers are actually playing until they leave the room…and, in some cases, the house. When they can still hear the output from 60 yards down the street, but don't have listener fatigue while actually in the room, it's always an eye opening experience. This ability is in large part due to drivers used in the 6.1. Dual magnesium alloy bass woofers (8"), Kevlar midrange (6"), and silk dome tweeter. These components are able to accommodate a very wide power band without a significant shift in frequency response (thus you won't lose bass response at low volume or detail at high volume).

Where the 6.1 is a heavyweight knock-your-socks-off beast, the 6.2 is a much more refined and controlled monster (by no means a small speaker). The 6.2 is the evolution of the Diva category designed to offer reference level performance in any format (from high-rez music to Pro Logic DVD's). While the X.2 series shares the Diva name, it's really a new category all together. The X.2 line shares many of the driver configurations seen in the X.1 line, but that's really where the similarities end. The differences start with a beautifully redesigned bentwood cabinet…which really has to be seen to appreciate. Building on the X.1 technology, the cabinet in the X.2 line is designed to eliminate any and all parallel surfaces - thus reducing standing waves inside the cabinet and improving the overall accuracy, time alignment, and soundstage of the speaker. All drivers utilize new long-throw linear suspensions with polypropylene cones. Though not quite as rigid as the metal cones used in the X.1 series, the X.2 drivers offer a more refined and detailed response with significantly improved off-axis response. Last, but definitely not least, all X.2 loudspeakers use truly state-of-the-art crossovers (Swans doesn't believe in charging more to build crossovers right the first time). The X.2 crossovers utilize the best components available in the Swans inventory - and are voiced specifically with the X.2 series drivers to maximize off-axis response and deliver unprecedented 2-channel imaging. For all of these reasons, many of our customers find that the X.2 series offers a bit better overall performance for most music formats. Because most home theater formats don't heavily rely on imaging to recreate the desired effect (since there's a speaker where an image would be created in a 2 channel system), the 6.1's additional lower mid-bass punch and visceral effect (you FEEL the 6.1) make it the speaker of choice for HT. In most cases, I recommend the 6.1 for a 30/70 music/HT system and the 6.2 in a 70/30 music/HT system.

Other differences include the .2 is about 12 inches taller and the binding posts are underneath of the speaker, which is an odd location if not an inconvenient one when moving/switching wires.

[insomniac]

I had D2.1SE standmount speakers. They were gorgeous and sounded great. I know they are not 6.1's, but if their quality/value is indicative of the brand, I'd have to recommend them.

[monkumonku]

Feb 1, 2010 0:50:55 GMT -5 insomniac said:

I had D2.1SE standmount speakers. They were gorgeous and sounded great. I know they are not 6.1's, but if their quality/value is indicative of the brand, I'd have to recommend them.

I have the D2.1SE's and agree, they are gorgeous and sound great! They need a lot of power, however. I think the 6.x series of Swans is made more for home theater, whereas that D2.1SE is more for music (although they are supposed to be coming out with a matching center and surrounds in February). Swans makes very good speakers.

[caper334]

I am looking for a speaker that if yo want the bass will hit you in the chest..bt also is very clear for hometheater...any suggestions...is there that type of speaker out there....and the term bright is that meaning alot of treble....my monitor nines from paradigm have that sond and i am trying to get away from that a bit

[bigred7078]

Feb 1, 2010 8:01:01 GMT -5 caper334 said:

I am looking for a speaker that if yo want the bass will hit you in the chest..bt also is very clear for hometheater...any suggestions...is there that type of speaker out there....and the term bright is that meaning alot of treble....my monitor nines from paradigm have that sond and i am trying to get away from that a bit

You could look to demo some Def Tech BP700x(0,1,2,3,4) speakers as they may have what you're looking for.
definitivetechnology.com/Products/Series/BipolarSeries.aspx

But getting a set of speakers you really like and a nice sub with a lot of output will give you that impact to the chest you desire.

[jlafrenz]

Feb 1, 2010 8:01:01 GMT -5 caper334 said:

I am looking for a speaker that if yo want the bass will hit you in the chest..bt also is very clear for hometheater...any suggestions...is there that type of speaker out there....and the term bright is that meaning alot of treble....my monitor nines from paradigm have that sond and i am trying to get away from that a bit

The Swans will likely be brighter than the Paradigms. There are some towers out there that will deliver good bass, but for chest pounding, you can't beat a good sub. It is key for any good HT system.

[caper334]

i have a good paradigm sub....i think I am very very confused over speakers I am looking at too much....I think It will be b...w axiom m eighty.....or stdio 100's.....

[bigred7078]

Feb 1, 2010 8:48:58 GMT -5 jlafrenz said:

Feb 1, 2010 8:01:01 GMT -5 caper334 said:

I am looking for a speaker that if yo want the bass will hit you in the chest..bt also is very clear for hometheater...any suggestions...is there that type of speaker out there....and the term bright is that meaning alot of treble....my monitor nines from paradigm have that sond and i am trying to get away from that a bit

The Swans will likely be brighter than the Paradigms. There are some towers out there that will deliver good bass, but for chest pounding, you can't beat a good sub. It is key for any good HT system.

The swans are not brighter than the paradigms.

[caper334]

what class would yo say the swans are in..compared to another high end speaker...paradigm monitor series or studio series

[drew664]

Read the 2nd post as it is a complete thread summary.

www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=931069&highlight=craigsub

I'd say if you looked for speakers in the $1,000-$1,500 range, that is where the 6.1/6.2s are best comparable.