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Post by drummerdano1973 on Feb 15, 2010 21:59:55 GMT -5
A couple questions.......
Just got my UMC today and I'm very impressed!! Great bang for the buck.
Tried the EMO-Q with very bad results like other members have mentioned. Was telling me speakers were out of phase one time then not the next, crossover points way out of wack etc. etc....
Now when I do the manual setup with my SPL meter what should the volume be set at on the UMC-1?? I have had other brands in the past that would give you a Reference level to set the volume at.
Thanks ;D
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Post by ratmice on Feb 15, 2010 22:15:03 GMT -5
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Post by brijenjas on Feb 15, 2010 22:22:01 GMT -5
Just use your spl meter to set your volume to a level you are comfortable with and set the speakers from there.
I set the volume on my processors/receivers so my spl meter reads around 75db and go from there.
85db is supposedly "reference" level, but I found that to be a bit loud for my comfort when setting levels.
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Post by ratmice on Feb 15, 2010 22:52:49 GMT -5
The test tones are NOT set to reference level. I assumed they were. Sorry for the misinformation. That seems odd to me. Without a zero dB volume setting how are you supposed to set reference level. My other receivers would either have the volume automatically turned up to 0 db, or have set volume test ones. I guess you need to just raise the volume until the left front is reading 75 dB and level form there. Guess there's more than one way of skinning a cat. |
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Post by lonnie on Feb 15, 2010 23:33:19 GMT -5
A couple questions....... Just got my UMC today and I'm very impressed!! Great bang for the buck. Tried the EMO-Q with very bad results like other members have mentioned. Was telling me speakers were out of phase one time then not the next, crossover points way out of wack etc. etc.... Now when I do the manual setup with my SPL meter what should the volume be set at on the UMC-1?? I have had other brands in the past that would give you a Reference level to set the volume at. Thanks ;D The output level of the test tones is dependant on the volume setting. We did this so you can set your own reference. A reference level is an arbitrary figure you select as "reference". I personally set mine about 12db above ambiant. This gives me more than enough resolution without being overly loud.  |
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Post by snodog on Feb 15, 2010 23:48:22 GMT -5
I wish we could set it on EmoQ as well. I dove across my floor to stop it the first time
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Post by drummerdano1973 on Feb 15, 2010 23:57:22 GMT -5
A couple questions....... Just got my UMC today and I'm very impressed!! Great bang for the buck. Tried the EMO-Q with very bad results like other members have mentioned. Was telling me speakers were out of phase one time then not the next, crossover points way out of wack etc. etc.... Now when I do the manual setup with my SPL meter what should the volume be set at on the UMC-1?? I have had other brands in the past that would give you a Reference level to set the volume at. Thanks ;D The output level of the test tones is dependant on the volume setting. We did this so you can set your own reference. A reference level is an arbitrary figure you select as "reference". I personally set mine about 12db above ambiant. This gives me more than enough resolution without being overly loud. Please elaborate on the 12db above ambient. What do you mean by ambient?? |
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Post by drummerdano1973 on Feb 16, 2010 0:03:20 GMT -5
Also just noticed that the speaker distance only goes to 10" after each foot not 12"  Not really a big deal. Anyone else notice this? |
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Post by jgeiger on Feb 16, 2010 9:32:11 GMT -5
Also just noticed that the speaker distance only goes to 10" after each foot not 12" Not really a big deal. Anyone else notice this? Hmm so you can see 12.10, but not 12.11? That seems odd since it's not tenths then. You should never see a x.12 since that would be the next foot. If you see x.9 but not x.10 then it's tenths. I never really looked. I check tonight. |
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Post by drummerdano1973 on Feb 16, 2010 10:59:25 GMT -5
Thats correct goes to '.10" not .11" (spinal tap). very minor but I thought I would mention it.
Lonnie--Any elaboration on the " I personally set mine about 12db above ambiant." on reference tones
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Post by drummerdano1973 on Feb 16, 2010 11:03:13 GMT -5
It's in tenths. Goes to .9 then to the next foot. I confused myself and rechecked |
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Post by lonnie on Feb 16, 2010 11:15:44 GMT -5
Thats correct goes to '.10" not .11" (spinal tap). very minor but I thought I would mention it. Lonnie--Any elaboration on the " I personally set mine about 12db above ambiant." on reference tones Every room has a certain amount of noise. It is usually around 45 to 55db. I measure the noise in the room with nothing on. Make a note of it (let say it is 50db). Then I turn on the test tones and raise the volume until it gets 12db above the noise (in this case 62db). Then that becomes my reference that I set all the speakers too. Hope this helps. |
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Post by RSavage on Feb 16, 2010 11:22:45 GMT -5
Every room has a certain amount of noise. It is usually around 45 to 55db. I measure the noise in the room with nothing on. Make a note of it (let say it is 50db). Then I turn on the test tones and raise the volume until it gets 12db above the noise (in this case 62db). Then that becomes my reference that I set all the speakers too. Anyone else get a chuckle out of the visual here?  R |
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Post by lonnie on Feb 16, 2010 11:25:10 GMT -5
Every room has a certain amount of noise. It is usually around 45 to 55db. I measure the noise in the room with nothing on. Make a note of it (let say it is 50db). Then I turn on the test tones and raise the volume until it gets 12db above the noise (in this case 62db). Then that becomes my reference that I set all the speakers too. Anyone else get a chuckle out of the visual here? R ;D ;D ;D Oops my bad. I should have read it before posting it. ;D |
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Post by brettjb on Feb 16, 2010 11:52:20 GMT -5
Clothing could adversely affect the readings through absorbtion... That said, I assume you would want to calibrate while clothed - unless you normally listen to your system in the nude... No offense, Lonnie, but that's a mental image I could have lived without!  |
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Post by ratmice on Feb 16, 2010 11:56:16 GMT -5
Every room has a certain amount of noise. It is usually around 45 to 55db. I measure the noise in the room with nothing on. Make a note of it (let say it is 50db). Then I turn on the test tones and raise the volume until it gets 12db above the noise (in this case 62db). Then that becomes my reference that I set all the speakers too. Anyone else get a chuckle out of the visual here? R Blew right by it without noticing, now I can't get it out of my mind. Nope. Poking my eyes out with sharpened pencils didn't help  |
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Post by DYohn on Feb 16, 2010 12:33:38 GMT -5
Hey, listening in the nude is THE BEST! I never thought of taking measurements while nude! Way cool! I think I'll go right now and try some high SPL subwoofer sweeps. Ooooo, low frequency vibrations!!!  |
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Post by flamingeye on Feb 16, 2010 12:45:09 GMT -5
What? I thought every one listened and or took measurements in the nude, I found that you get better measurements if you smatter butter all over your self first
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Post by brettjb on Feb 16, 2010 12:55:48 GMT -5
Hey, listening in the nude is THE BEST! I never thought of taking measurements while nude! Way cool! I think I'll go right now and try some high SPL subwoofer sweeps. Ooooo, low frequency vibrations!!! My eyes! The goggles do nothing!  |
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Post by maseline98 on Feb 16, 2010 15:10:10 GMT -5
I'm curious if there is LFE+Main option to send the low freq to the sub and fronts at the same time. My HK does this and I really like this option, but I've heard some AVRs don't have it as option.
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Not really a big deal. Anyone else notice this?
