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Post by darien87 on May 12, 2010 15:28:54 GMT -5
White noise won't work for me as I don't have an RTA. I need a disc that will give tones at say 10, 15, 20 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, and 50hz, so that I can map my sub curve with my level meter. |
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Post by markus on May 12, 2010 16:11:48 GMT -5
White noise won't work for me as I don't have an RTA. I need a disc that will give tones at say 10, 15, 20 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, and 50hz, so that I can map my sub curve with my level meter. What are you trying to do? Correct modal peaks? How would you correct the low frequency content that is sent to the subwoofer from L, R, C, LS, RS, LBS, RBS? If you want to do it right then use the RTA functionaliy of REW. You'll be surprised what is going on between 10, 15, 20 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, and 50hz. |
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Post by ksuvet on May 13, 2010 9:21:10 GMT -5
Thanks for chiming in here Lonnie. However all this arguing back and forth about with is better, GEQ or PEQ doesn't answer my question about why the sub EQ in the UMC-1 doesn't work. As I noted, I was trying to bring my 25hz spike down a bit by taking 22hz and 28hz all the way to -10. Nothing changed. Shouldn't my 25hz peak come down at least a little bit or am I missing something? +1 . I'd like an explanation as to why, in this very flexible processor, did they implement the EQ in a way that no one would ever want (LFE only). And can it be fixed?! |
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Post by rp on May 13, 2010 17:07:13 GMT -5
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Post by markus on May 13, 2010 17:34:35 GMT -5
That would be pretty bad because this is what Emotiva promised us: "The UMC-1 represents a breakthrough in performance, technology, and value. Its extensive and truly useful feature set, intuitive control interface, unparalleled sound quality, precision video processing, and advanced signal management will redefine your home theater experience." When will they deliver? |
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Post by randolfw on May 13, 2010 23:14:36 GMT -5
markus,
I have read so many of your posts maybe i just missed it. Which processors are availble with a parametric eq built in?
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Post by sbavnut on May 14, 2010 1:20:56 GMT -5
randolfw - I am sure Markus will answer your question as soon as he gets out of "time-out".  |
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Post by sbavnut on May 14, 2010 12:30:58 GMT -5
To the OP (moodyman):
Can you please summarize this thread in your first post.
That way, people don't have to go thru the 10+ pages to understand what is going on.
Here is my summary:
The UMC-1 handles BM in a (shall we say) "unique" fashion. People applying EQ to the sub channel and expecting a certain result are getting a different result. Emo (Lonnie) has said that this "unique" way of applying BM cannot be changed by SW and will stay that way.
There was also some additional discussion between different kinds of EQ that can be applied. Both types have their pros and cons. Emo (Lonnie) stated that they will stick with their current implementation.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on May 14, 2010 12:36:14 GMT -5
markus, I have read so many of your posts maybe i just missed it. Which processors are availble with a parametric eq built in? The Yamaha RX-V2500 I had before had PEQ built in - but not for the sub channel ... |
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Post by edrummereasye on May 14, 2010 22:47:13 GMT -5
That would be pretty bad because this is what Emotiva promised us: "The UMC-1 represents a breakthrough in performance, technology, and value. Its extensive and truly useful feature set, intuitive control interface, unparalleled sound quality, precision video processing, and advanced signal management will redefine your home theater experience." When will they deliver? I read that, and I don't come away expecting parametric EQ for the summed low frequencies in a $700 pre/pro. I think the horse is dead. |
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Post by emoforme on May 15, 2010 1:19:46 GMT -5
markus, I have read so many of your posts maybe i just missed it. Which processors are availble with a parametric eq built in? i am not markus, and this is not not a processor, but once again, (as mentioned a few pages back) it is ONLY $100 and as an add on to any processor of your choice, would seem to be a very flexible and cost-effective solution - IMHO. www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=248-656oh yeah - the midi port allows REW to instantly program your settings into it. (midi adapter sold seperately) www.hometheatershack.com/bfdguide |
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Post by ratmice on May 15, 2010 7:28:58 GMT -5
markus, I have read so many of your posts maybe i just missed it. Which processors are availble with a parametric eq built in? i am not markus, and this is not not a processor, but once again, (as mentioned a few pages back) it is ONLY $100 and as an add on to any processor of your choice, would seem to be a very flexible and cost-effective solution - IMHO. www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=248-656oh yeah - the midi port allows REW to instantly program your settings into it. (midi adapter sold seperately) www.hometheatershack.com/bfdguideDon't forget: 1. the microphone (sold separately) 2. The microphone pre-amp (sold separately) Add those up and it's quite a bit more than 100.00 |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on May 15, 2010 8:00:49 GMT -5
I'm tempted to give it a whirl - it actually costs less (r maybe 30% more when adding the mic/pre-amp) than the XTZ room EQ "system" which appears to offer nothing over the free REW (less features) and other than a calibrated mic seems not worth the money unless you have an XTZ sub. If REW had a calibration profile for the XTZ mic (and it (XTZ mic) worked without intoducing noise it might be OK - maybe I got a faulty one - I will contact XTZ at some point. Sorry to ramble off topic - a BFD may be in my future at least with it you have a correction tool, not just measurements. |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on May 15, 2010 8:11:33 GMT -5
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Post by cipher on May 15, 2010 10:48:12 GMT -5
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Post by monkumonku on May 15, 2010 10:51:52 GMT -5
Don't forget: 1. the microphone (sold separately) 2. The microphone pre-amp (sold separately) Add those up and it's quite a bit more than 100.00 The mic and preamp would probably run you at least another $100 plus the shipping on everything. For $359 you can get the Velodyne SMS-1 from Amazon/Vanns with free shipping and get something that is easier to use with an on-screen graph. |
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Post by DYohn on May 15, 2010 10:57:59 GMT -5
... plus I for one have never liked Behringer EQs as I find they add distortion and limit dynamics. YMMV.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on May 15, 2010 12:48:56 GMT -5
Oh the choices - I can probably get a Behringer + Mic + preamp for around €200, the SMS-1, SVS thing and the anti-mode all seem more expensive - I was really hoping the UMC-1 would allow for good sub settings - I don't want to set it up so it works great for LFE and then find when I play two-channel tracks or music it all goes wonky though. I am hearing a bit of that currently.
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Post by weeman on May 15, 2010 16:36:41 GMT -5
A Mic & Pre-amp aren't really required for tuning with the Behringer EQs. A simple $20 radio shack spl meter with the calibration file & REW is all thats needed.
I'll be getting the FBQ2496 shortly to use for sub eq as its got better specs than the DSP1124P.
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Post by NorthStar on May 15, 2010 16:58:52 GMT -5
Why don't you guys simply adopt Audyssey with their FIR filters? Or ARC for that matter with a combination of FIR & IIR filters? ...TRINNOV?  * These beat any Graphic or Parametric EQs that I know of. Besides, the most important place to EQ is in the low frequencies (below 200 Hz or so). And Audyssey has a separate EQ for that, and good for two subs too. ...Frequency, phase & time domain compensated for. No way with a Graphic EQ, and no way either with a Parametric EQ and it's Q. And you need sophisticated measuring instruments to properly calibrate these rather older EQ systems. We now live in a much more advanced world. Just sayin'. |
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