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Post by denist on Nov 21, 2010 15:45:10 GMT -5
So it's only with PCM 5.1 uncompressed that you see this? No other codecs? All the other settings I've chosen work fine. Its only when I put in a bluray with PCM 5.1 uncompressed. I can select the All Stereo afterwards, but the default I've chosen doesn't get selected. I defaults to Direct mode. I will have to see if I have another BD that I can try. Yes you are right with the advance properties i have the issue also with 7.00.02 where i use a xbmc htpc with multi pcm 5.1 when starting the unit from fresh say turning on.. it goes to direct instead of all stereo even though i have set it in advance to all stereo for multi chan.... this is one little issue which it looks like it is still present in the latest... hot rod which i have not got yet... so a fix for this would be awsome also.... only way to fix is to scroll with the mode button for now...\ Denis
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Post by Pauly on Nov 21, 2010 16:26:13 GMT -5
So, I don't remember, which DV setting should cut the volume of the commercials the most? Also, setting the offset a bit higher to about +5 or 6 has worked. Thanks Nemesis and Lonnie.
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 21, 2010 16:32:50 GMT -5
So, I don't remember, which DV setting should cut the volume of the commercials the most? Also, setting the offset a bit higher to about +5 or 6 has worked. Thanks Nemesis and Lonnie. Going to High will offer the greatest reduction in dynamic range and hold the commercials at bay.
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Post by RSavage on Nov 21, 2010 17:04:35 GMT -5
I'm not in the habit of discussing unreleased software, but nobody seems to care soooooo....... I'll just say TWO CHANNEL STEREO...........oh my !!! That is all
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Post by Pauly on Nov 21, 2010 17:08:10 GMT -5
Ok, DV is on high, with an offset of +7 and it seems to be alright. The dialog isn't as clear as it is with DV off, but I do like how the surrounds and sub are more active at low volume. The commercials also seem to be cut down to a tolerable level. But not as good as the good ol mute button lol.
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Post by Pauly on Nov 21, 2010 17:16:10 GMT -5
Scratch that. Modeler only seems to cut down the commercials the most.
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Post by doc1963 on Nov 21, 2010 17:19:21 GMT -5
Lonnie, I noticed a small glitch that I don't know if existed before the new firmware. If I put in a BD with PCM 5.1 uncompressed audio, the UMC will show the proper input stream but will select "Direct" mode. In advanced playback and for the BD input I have "All Stereo" selected for MultiPCM, but it will always set direct mode. I can change it in the Mode menu and it works. Thanks for the feedback. We wrote out own code to make the MCPCM work correctly and from everything we have tested it is decoding as it should. For those of you who have been keeping up on this, we found there was an actual error in the Cirrus which caused the decoder to run in Stereo mode when certain MCPCM signals were recieved. But in the new code we wrote our own bit of code to fix this so now you get MCPCM when it sees MCPCM (imagine that ). But the system defaulting to Direct is what it should do during lock, but if you have selected All Stereo as your preferred mode it should jump to that once it locks. If it isn't, that means we just have a little bump in the personal settings menu and I will look into it. I have tested virtually all the other settings and formats in the personal settings and they are working correctly. Lonnie, I have experienced this too and have noted it several times both here and on the "Official Tracker". "All Stereo" is my selected preferred mode for MCPCM which does not always stick and defaults to "Direct" just as geebo has pointed out. Thanks for looking into it and hopefully it is something easily corrected.
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Post by weird23 on Nov 21, 2010 17:36:09 GMT -5
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, why would you want to listen/watch a BD in All Channel Stereo? It seems like the opposite thing you would want to do when listening to something in 5.1/7.1 surround.
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Post by Pauly on Nov 21, 2010 17:43:56 GMT -5
It's not the All channel stereo you and I are used to though. The all channel stereo in the UMC is not like the party modes and stuff in other pre/pros and receivers where every speaker plays the same thing. It's a bit misleading. The All Stereo option in the UMC just allows you to overlay your bass management and EQ settings while in MCPCM mode. Otherwise, if you had it set to direct, everything would just pass through untouched by the UMC. No BM, and no EQ would be applied. You are still getting a proper 5.1/7.1 surround performance.
This way you are still able to get the benefits that you would if you were bitstreaming to the UMC and letting it do the processing.
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Post by roadrunner on Nov 21, 2010 18:15:41 GMT -5
It's not the All channel stereo you and I are used to though. The all channel stereo in the UMC is not like the party modes and stuff in other pre/pros and receivers where every speaker plays the same thing. It's a bit misleading. The All Stereo option in the UMC just allows you to overlay your bass management and EQ settings while in MCPCM mode. Otherwise, if you had it set to direct, everything would just pass through untouched by the UMC. No BM, and no EQ would be applied. You are still getting a proper 5.1/7.1 surround performance. This way you are still able to get the benefits that you would if you were bitstreaming to the UMC and letting it do the processing. Pauly, You beat me to it. Not only that, but you did an excellent job of explaining how it works... you young upstarts are all alike. ;D ;D Are you trying to put us "old tymers" out to pasture?
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Post by Pauly on Nov 21, 2010 18:18:45 GMT -5
No Ronny, you "old tymers" just type too slow lol.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Nov 22, 2010 3:17:33 GMT -5
Scratch that. Modeler only seems to cut down the commercials the most. That's a bid odd as modeller only is not supposed to change the level at all. I'll see what I think of it/discover later today I hope.
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Post by RSavage on Nov 22, 2010 11:19:25 GMT -5
After being assured by Lonnie that public discussion was indeed allowed, here are some very brief and informal observations on 7.02.05: I concur with most everything that has been posted by others.... My initial install was more problematic than normal. The DSP code took 5 attempts with my system setup exactly as it has been in the past. Once the DSP finally loaded, the main code went in on the first try. No idea why this one might be any more difficult than others, but that's what happened here. Once installed: Improved lock times Improved mode change times Changing channels on cable is virtually instant now The big thing for me is the improved audio quality....particularly in 2 channel stereo. I think many of you will be VERY pleasantly surprised. I've been very happy with my UMC, but always felt there was just that 'something' lacking in the audio department. Well, Lonnie has found where it was hiding! I won't go into a bunch of subjective detail at this point, you guys will be able to judge for yourselves. Needless to say, I'm VERY happy with the new and improved UMC Ray edit: For those with the AIX setup/sample disc.....it works now ! R
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Post by htmtl on Nov 22, 2010 11:26:30 GMT -5
Are you a proud seller of UMC-1? ;D Euh! you replay was out of this Topic Yes, I am ... so what?
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Post by Pauly on Nov 22, 2010 11:49:37 GMT -5
Just thought I'd mention, that I'm on my third day now with the new FW, and I still haven't had a center channel drop. No problems whatsoever in fact.
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Post by jamrock on Nov 22, 2010 12:08:35 GMT -5
After being assured by Lonnie that public discussion was indeed allowed, here are some very brief and informal observations on 7.02.05: I concur with most everything that has been posted by others.... My initial install was more problematic than normal. The DSP code took 5 attempts with my system setup exactly as it has been in the past. Once the DSP finally loaded, the main code went in on the first try. No idea why this one might be any more difficult than others, but that's what happened here. Once installed: Improved lock times Improved mode change times Changing channels on cable is virtually instant now The big thing for me is the improved audio quality....particularly in 2 channel stereo. I think many of you will be VERY pleasantly surprised. I've been very happy with my UMC, but always felt there was just that 'something' lacking in the audio department. Well, Lonnie has found where it was hiding! I won't go into a bunch of subjective detail at this point, you guys will be able to judge for yourselves. Needless to say, I'm VERY happy with the new and improved UMC Ray edit: For those with the AIX setup/sample disc.....it works now ! R You're not finished yet buster! ;D. What about: Center channel drop outs? Power down/up lockups? DTS HD/MA play back? Emo-Q accuracy / consistency? For me personally. Please play a stereo CD overlaid with DPL IIx music mode and tell me how it sounds! I know that others (the 4) has reported improvements or elimination of the problems with the above issues. Just trying to make sure that it is consistent for everyone. jamrock. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Pauly on Nov 22, 2010 12:16:21 GMT -5
EmoQ still sucks lol, but I am getting more accurate distances. Doesn't matter though, because I'm manual calibration type of guy anyway. I might have a bad mic though.
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Post by RSavage on Nov 22, 2010 12:19:52 GMT -5
You're not finished yet buster! ;D. What about: Center channel drop outs? Power down/up lockups? DTS HD/MA play back? Emo-Q accuracy / consistency? For me personally. Please play a stereo CD overlaid with DPL IIx music mode and tell me how it sounds! No center channel drop outs so far.....and I've beaten on this thing pretty hard over the weekend. No power down/up locks since the front panel code that came out a few weeks ago....that's been flawless. DTS-MA HD, and every other codec I've tried are great. VERY clean, very open, very 'fast' in the audio sense (read 'dynamic range'). Beautiful sound! IIx is great....I use it for some 2 channel sources and it works perfectly and sounds good. One thing you might try with the new FW is just running your CDs in plain old 2 channel stereo mode. The sound stage has expanded DRAMATICALLY for me. You may find you like it better than IIx.......I did. R edit: Sorry, forgot EmoQ. Can't give you any insight there....as Pauly said, I too am a manual setup kinda guy. R
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Post by jamrock on Nov 22, 2010 12:24:01 GMT -5
You're not finished yet buster! ;D. What about: Center channel drop outs? Power down/up lockups? DTS HD/MA play back? Emo-Q accuracy / consistency? For me personally. Please play a stereo CD overlaid with DPL IIx music mode and tell me how it sounds! No center channel drop outs so far.....and I've beaten on this thing pretty hard over the weekend. No power down/up locks since the front panel code that came out a few weeks ago....that's been flawless. DTS-MA HD, and every other codec I've tried are great. VERY clean, very open, very 'fast' in the audio sense (read 'dynamic range'). Beautiful sound! IIx is great....I use it for some 2 channel sources and it works perfectly and sounds good. One thing you might try with the new FW it just running your CDs in plain old 2 channel stereo mode. The sound stage has expanded DRAMATICALLY for me. You may find you like it better than IIx.......I did. R You're beautiful man! Damn Showoff! ;D jamming, jamrock ;D ;D ;D
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Post by AudioMancer on Nov 22, 2010 12:27:12 GMT -5
You're not finished yet buster! ;D. What about: Center channel drop outs? Power down/up lockups? DTS HD/MA play back? Emo-Q accuracy / consistency? For me personally. Please play a stereo CD overlaid with DPL IIx music mode and tell me how it sounds! I know that others (the 4) has reported improvements or elimination of the problems with the above issues. Just trying to make sure that it is consistent for everyone. jamrock. ;D ;D ;D jamrock, I've seen you ask this more than once and I didn't see anyone answer you. Regrefully, I can't really answer either, and I think the others that didn't answer may have the same reason: 1. Center channel dropout: Never had them, so I can't say if its "fixed". 2. Power down lock ups: rarely had them, and ONLY when shutting down the UMC first. Never happened when shutting down the UMC last. 3. DTS HD\MA playback: Well, I never had a problem with this either. Which is puzzling, if you say that Lonnie mentioned something wrong with the chip . Unless I'm misunderstanding your question. 4. Emo EQ: Don't use it. Sorry. I know these answers aren't very helpful, since I never had the problems to begin with. But at least I can say that, in my instance, the issues in question didn't get "broken" either. Hope that kinda helps.
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