cgolf
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Post by cgolf on Mar 15, 2012 4:44:31 GMT -5
For all you Axiom fans, from your friends over at AVS: Biggest myths in audio that tick you off/General things in audio that tick you off. Axioms pseudo science approach to speaker design. - No need for proper cabinet bracing - Comb filtering is a good thing - Don't need high quality Xover components - midrange break up is ok (M60) - off axis response isn't important (VP150) - Axiom only knows how to perform a DBT - A $1500 speaker is as good as it gets any thing more is just similarily good. Yes I also wonder if you have ever listened to any Axiom speakers or just see what you read and believe it. Comments like this are said about every speaker line out there. Hey there are positives and negatives about every piece of equipment any of us have. Sure there are better speakers than Axioms but the M80 v3 are as good as you will get at that price point. A company does not stay in business for over 30 years and sell thousands of speakers if they are no good (other than Bose). ;D
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Post by mrmeng430 on Mar 15, 2012 4:57:32 GMT -5
Due to time constraints, I'll try to get some pictures taken sometime next week. I don't have the aesthetic pleasing set up decor since I'm single and have no WAF issues ;D.
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Post by garbulky on Mar 15, 2012 5:14:29 GMT -5
Hey we were single at one point. I completely understand. If you could only see my previous pre-wife setups, I don't think you would worry.
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Post by venturesteve on Mar 18, 2012 8:21:24 GMT -5
"mrmeng430", Can I call you to chat about the M80's and the 8.3's???
Thanks,
Steve SteveHall@naples.net
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Post by GreenKiwi on Mar 18, 2012 15:24:07 GMT -5
If you have a dealer near by, you should also give some of the Martin Logan's a listen, and the magnepan 1.6/1.7s.
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Post by grapeape on Mar 18, 2012 20:40:07 GMT -5
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Post by venturesteve on Mar 20, 2012 12:49:37 GMT -5
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Post by mrmeng430 on Mar 23, 2012 15:03:14 GMT -5
For the very bored, my Emo 8.3s and Axiom M80s in 16' by 14' room, with 3' 8" back wall counter separating the kitchen.
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Post by mrmeng430 on Mar 23, 2012 15:04:01 GMT -5
Another one for the very bored.
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Post by garbulky on Mar 23, 2012 16:09:25 GMT -5
Thanks Mrmeng. I thought you had forgotten. Those look really nice together setup With the orientation of your room, it's hard to tell the toe-in angle of the speaker if any. Can you tell us what angle you use in general for the axiom? My axioms seem to be at the exact same distance from the tv as your emotiva's! My axioms are in the boston cherry stock and it's nice to see them in another color. It's very interesting that the emotiva speakers are taller/bigger looking than the m80's! Though I guess the axioms catch up on space with depth as it looks deeper than emotiva's. The m80's are very large and imposing in my living room so I can just imagine what the emotiva speakers look like! Which one can push out more volume (cleanly)? I imagine both of them can bring down the house?! How's the bass extension comparing the two? Where's your Dual epik empires and the DSPeaker anti mode?
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Post by mrmeng430 on Mar 23, 2012 16:34:31 GMT -5
Thanks Mrmeng. I thought you had forgotten. Those look really nice together setup With the orientation of your room, it's hard to tell the toe-in angle of the speaker if any. Can you tell us what angle you use in general for the axiom? My axioms seem to be at the exact same distance from the tv as your emotiva's! My axioms are in the boston cherry stock and it's nice to see them in another color. It's very interesting that the emotiva speakers are taller/bigger looking than the m80's! Though I guess the axioms catch up on space with depth as it looks deeper than emotiva's. The m80's are very large and imposing in my living room so I can just imagine what the emotiva speakers look like! Which one can push out more volume (cleanly)? I imagine both of them can bring down the house?! How's the bass extension comparing the two? Where's your Dual epik empires and the DSPeaker anti mode? I don't push them too loud. For movies on M80s, I go to max. -15 db on the Yamaha volume dial. For music on ERT 8.3s, I go to about 9 o'clock on the USP volume dial, -23db on the Onkyo for radio. I think the ERT goes lower on bass, but with the 6 subs I have, it's hard to tell. . Not sure about angle of toe in, it faces more straight to the back after using XLO/Reference Test & Burn In CD for finding best center sound. I sit about 12' from them. M80s, on the outer side, are about 11' apart In picture, Antimode sits on the Yamaha that sits on the Onkyo, there is an Antec cooler between Yamaha and Onkyo.
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Post by mrmeng430 on Mar 23, 2012 16:53:32 GMT -5
One of the Epik Empire doing double duty as grocery and printer stand behind my recliner seat hot spot . Not pictured is a radio shack sub near coffee table and an AudioSource sub under coffee table, both leftover from my college days. SVS sub is behind the TV, Axiom sub to left between recliner and left speakers
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Post by mrmeng430 on Mar 23, 2012 16:57:30 GMT -5
2nd Epik sitting behind the left M80 and ERT 8.3. Both Epiks sit on small end tables bought at Target as sub risers.
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Post by garbulky on Mar 26, 2012 23:34:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. Much enjoyed the additional pictures!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 23:47:36 GMT -5
MrMeng430,
Please don't take offense, but your room/setup is an un-mitigated disaster. You have equipemnt scattered from hell to breakfast and there is no way on God's green earth that setup has a snowball's chance in hell of sounding good. Clean up that damn room and get rid of 1/2 the sh** you have scattered about and then you *might* have a chance of having something worth listening to.
Until then, you are wasting your time and money, son...
-RW-
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Post by garbulky on Mar 27, 2012 0:18:58 GMT -5
I liked it. It added personality and I liked the creative use of the subs. His main purpose of posting that was to show his positioning due to two requests. He did not want to post them first because he mentioned his room was messy. He did so as a favor to me and another poster. So thanks again mrmeng.
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Post by Pauly on Mar 27, 2012 0:43:49 GMT -5
MrMeng430, Please don't take offense, but your room/setup is an un-mitigated disaster. You have equipemnt scattered from hell to breakfast and there is no way on God's green earth that setup has a snowball's chance in hell of sounding good. Clean up that damn room and get rid of 1/2 the sh** you have scattered about and then you *might* have a chance of having something worth listening to. Until then, you are wasting your time and money, son... -RW- Wow. "Please don't take offense"? Really?
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Post by pop on Mar 27, 2012 3:55:27 GMT -5
Pauly, it's like your mom signed on to tell you to clean your room. Lol. "Actually the Cheetos bag in the corner is more like a custom acoustic panel". Rock on with your dirty room.
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Post by venturesteve on Apr 12, 2012 15:38:43 GMT -5
Hi Moookie,, What do you know about the "philharmonicaudio" Speakers?? Do you have them? Heard them? seen them? You seem to have a collection! Including the Imo 8.3's. On paper, the philharmonicaudio's look very interesting!! Please tell me more. Thanks, Steve If you can do a local pickup (Maryland), these will blow away all the other suggestions , albeit at $1600. philharmonicaudio.com/philharmonic1.htmlThe Philharmonic 1 is the least expensive entry in our speaker line, but no corners have been cut in crossover design or driver selection. It is priced at $1,600 a pair. High frequencies are produced by the excellent Fountek Neo3 ribbon tweeter. The midrange driver is the highly regarded BG Neo8 planar. Its dipole design is perfectly suited for the open-back configuration used in all of our speakers. Its narrow width provides superior horizontal dispersion for precise imaging and even frequency response in the listening room. The SB Acoustics eight-inch woofer extends response to 32 Hz in a heavily braced transmission line cabinet. The open-back upper cabinet may be tuned to suit the needs and tastes of the user by varying the amount of acoustic fill in the cabinet chamber. The two cabinets are isolated by a 1.25” pad of vibration-absorbent material. The carefully optimized 18-element crossover achieves nearly perfect 4th order acoustic slopes and remarkably flat frequency response across the audio spectrum. The Philharmonic 1 is supplied with a full set of grills for the woofer, midrange and tweeter, and the back of the upper cabinet. Cabinet finish is limited to satin black. Email info@philharmonicaudio.com to discuss. Specifications Drivers SB Acoustics 23NRXS45-8 woofer, BG Neo8 planar midrange, Fountek Neo3 ribbon tweeter Response 32Hz – 20kHz (+/- 2 dB) Sensitivity 87.5 db (dB/2.83v/1M) Box Alignment Mass-loaded transmission line Dimensions 41.5” H x 11.5” W x 21” D
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Post by briank on Apr 12, 2012 18:41:41 GMT -5
Personally, for under a $1000, I would go with Revel F12's, for $1600, I would take a hard look at the Philharmonic. My center and surrounds have the same Fountek ribbon tweeter and it's very good, not to mention Dennis Murphy's excellent reputation.
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