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Post by 2muchht on Jun 17, 2013 19:08:42 GMT -5
If the podcast hasn't been recorded yet, maybe we can post up some questions that the appropriate parties can answer. It would be great if they did that, as it would remove all the speculation that is likely to follow this sort of announcement.
One presumes that they will address the obvious such as any impact on the delivery date, perhaps the reasons behind why TacT was dropped after it was so highly promoted as being what, to all appearances, is a great technology and similar. This type of change occurring after more than a few projected delivery dates have passed is bound to raise questions, so let's RESPECTFULLY start a list and see if perhaps we can forestall the speculation after the fact. For example:
> The revised specs indicate that there will be "...Dirac Live® GUI interface control via PC/Mac...". Please confirm that this is in addition to the ability to setup via the unit's internal UI. I know that sounds obvious, but to date Dirac has mostly been a computer-based product other than what only one or two others such as Datasat are said to be up to so we really don't know how the XMC will handle the Dirac setup and configuration.
> Further to the above, the spec sheet now reads "...Exclusive Dirac Live™ automatic room correction system with PC/MAC GUI for complete system control and adjustment "on-the-fly"...". What is "Exclusive" about the Emotiva implementation of Dirac from what any other products where it is/will be embedded will have? Again, they are not "exclusive" in the sense of being the only consumer product with this technology given at least one in the market now (albeit at a much higher price!).
> Will the XMC launch with Dirac at the $1,499 price or will the product launch without it and provide Dirac as a subsequent update.
> In the 7.2 mode, will the sub correction/adjustment be dual or separate? In other words, will each sub be adjusted individually?
> The spec shows 192/24 DACs are still there, which is great. Will the Dirac do its magic with content at that rate, rare as that stuff is for original material. Now THAT would be really cool!
> Not related to the switch to Dirac, but will the "...Firmware update via USB-A..." be via a connection to computers, but loaded through the USB or will it allow software to be put on a USB stick that you just put in the port and call it up from the UI? THAT would also be cool. Some AVRs have that and it would be a great addition to the XMC. Of course, the ultimate would be for it to have direct "push" upgrades via the network connection as the spec sheet also indicates will be possible: "...1 Ethernet port for control (RJ-45) for: Firmware updates...". Is that still in the cards for the XMC?
> Any comments on 4K compatibility in the podcast would be appreciated for those of us who will purchase this and want to keep it in our systems for a while.
I'm sure I've forgotten things that the community here is looking to have answered. How about adding more thoughts in the hope that the podcast will be something they use to address everyone's questions and put all the Lounge carrying on and controversy to rest once and for all.
THANKS!
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Post by wizardofoz on Jun 17, 2013 20:27:47 GMT -5
iOS / android app for remote control via ethernet / wireless as was talked about years ago. This is critical for other zone operations.
What happened to the phono input? And when will we see the alternative available.
Dirac support for different setups like stereo and 5.1 modes, plus the ability to use it in other zones would be great too. Save options to a pc/mac for loading up different setups would be great too.
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Post by hemster on Jun 17, 2013 20:30:52 GMT -5
It's a podcast, not a detailed product release of the XMC-1. I expect there will be details on the XMC-1 but also on other products too. Besides, if everyone's questions were to be answered in a (very long) podcast, what will the naysayers do?  |
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Post by klinemj on Jun 17, 2013 20:49:31 GMT -5
Naysayers? They exist? Really? Nooooooo.....
Mark
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Post by brubacca on Jun 17, 2013 20:53:04 GMT -5
Things hinted at or downright mentioned by Emo-staff (other than xmc-1)
1) ProDAC
2) ERC-3
3) Media Streamer
4) USB Dac like Dragonfly only $99
5) Exec System
6) Tube Pre-Amp Entry Level
7) UMC-500
Other items made up in my mind:
Emotiva Tube Amps
Emotiva Tube Integrated
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Post by wizardofoz on Jun 17, 2013 20:57:09 GMT -5
And the toaster...with 230vac option please An air purifier would be nice to have too....we have massive smoke issues from indonesia now....cough splutter  |
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Post by 2muchht on Jun 17, 2013 20:59:46 GMT -5
...iOS / android app for remote control via ethernet / wireless as was talked about years ago. This is critical for other zone operations... Yes, but I'm referring to the ability to do direct upgrades in a "push" fashion, not the use of a remote app via iOS or Android devices. If this, too, was discussed earlier my apologies and consider the question withdrawn. If not, it would be nice to know about this feature. ...Dirac support for different setups like stereo and 5.1 modes, plus the ability to use it in other zones would be great too. Save options to a pc/mac for loading up different setups would be great too... Agreed, and hopefully we'll have some details rather than glittering generalities. After all, TacT was presented as a great thing, perhaps correctly so. After 18 months of waiting it would be nice to know why the change is being made and with some disappointment over the change away from TacT it would be nice to have some confidence that we won't see another change again down the line. Help me here, please: Was TacT also mentioned as being part of the feature set for the RMC, and if so will the change to Dirac be made there, as well? One presumes that would be the case but since the door was opened by Emotiva hopefully they will let us know what the status is. As always, not asking for anything that they didn't first talk about, but once the bell is rung it is hard to un-ring it. On a totally different matter, one hopes that the podcast will also provide an update on the UMC-500. Is it still coming and if so, when? |
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Post by 2muchht on Jun 17, 2013 21:07:42 GMT -5
...It's a podcast, not a detailed product release of the XMC-1... Agreed. No need to go over what hasn't changed, only what has. Are we safe to presume that things not discussed remain as previously stated? That should be reasonable, but once you change something as major as TacT to Dirac and given the unexplained delivery date slips you'll pardon me, but some measure of healthy skepticism is reasonable to expect. Someone in another post said we should "...believe because Keith said so...", or words close to that. No one disputes that "stuff happens" and things change, but we've had numerous proclamations of delivery dates that weren't met, so "believe" is something to be taken but with a grain or two of salt. ...Besides, if everyone's questions were to be answered in a (very long) podcast, what will the naysayers do? EXACTLY the point! Time spent answering the key, not ALL questions from folks here will make it difficult for the naysayers to, well, say "nay". Wouldn't that be refreshing? |
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Post by whovous on Jun 17, 2013 21:42:58 GMT -5
My guess, worth every penny I charge for it, is that TacT did not work with the XMC-1 for whatever reason, and that was the main reason for pushing back the release date all these years. TacT has now been replaced with something that works, which means we should expect a release announcement before the next basketball season begins.
It is so easy to make this stuff up...
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Post by Topend on Jun 17, 2013 22:12:58 GMT -5
My guess, worth every penny I charge for it, is that TacT did not work with the XMC-1 for whatever reason, and that was the main reason for pushing back the release date all these years. TacT has now been replaced with something that works, which means we should expect a release announcement before the next basketball season begins. It is so easy to make this stuff up... Tact was only announced < 18 mths ago so it has not delayed the XMC-1 for all these years, more like 6 months as of today. Cheers, Dave. |
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Post by whovous on Jun 17, 2013 22:24:34 GMT -5
I said it was easy to make stuff up, and now you want me to be right as well? Isn't that asking a bit much?
I do think that Emotiva breaking radio silence really means something here.
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Post by TLC510 on Jun 17, 2013 22:25:38 GMT -5
With more and more of the reference line in the works, is there a timeframe(I know, you don't want to say something that might not work out due to factors beyond your control) for the RMC? I've seen several people talking about skipping the XMC and holding out for it. Is it, best case scenario, 2014 release? Sooner, later, just a general idea?
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Post by KeithL on Jun 17, 2013 22:36:59 GMT -5
More than you need to know about TacT.... TacT was cool. It worked pretty well, as many of you heard at last year's EmoFest. We had high hopes of being able to integrate it into the XMC-1. Unfortunately, after much struggle, we were unable to combine TacT and the XMC-1 into a viable product. It worked nice by itself - but even with shoehorns and the occasional hammer it wasn't going to fit... It's that simple; I'm not going to go into details because, to be brutally honest, they don't matter. (Maybe Dan will tell some more of the story tomorrow in the Podcast - or not.) When it became obvious that TacT was a non-starter, we went looking for an alternative. We found Dirac (I've heard Dirac and I think it's even better). We also have expectations of its being easier to integrate into our XMC-1. The XMC-1 is a perfect match for Dirac. We've also been walking a fine line between keeping you informed and *NOT* keeping you informed. When we disclose too much, some of you get annoyed when things don't work out as planned. When we don't disclose enough, some of you get annoyed about "being kept in the dark". My suggestion is that *YOU* should decide where you stand on that question.... If you want to hear details (which might change), then follow the forums, and listen carefully to tomorrow's Podcast. If all this annoys you, then turn OFF your computer, and go listen to some music You can bet you'll get an e-mail notification when the XMC-1 is ready to ship. There'll also be headlines all over the website. And perhaps even a few skyrockets. Whining and complaining won't get it finished any faster. We think you'll agree that it was well worth the wait. If not, then, well, don't wait (we aren't twisting your arm). There are a few thousand people waiting in line behind you if you get tired of waiting. ...It's a podcast, not a detailed product release of the XMC-1... Agreed. No need to go over what hasn't changed, only what has. Are we safe to presume that things not discussed remain as previously stated? That should be reasonable, but once you change something as major as TacT to Dirac and given the unexplained delivery date slips you'll pardon me, but some measure of healthy skepticism is reasonable to expect. Someone in another post said we should "...believe because Keith said so...", or words close to that. No one disputes that "stuff happens" and things change, but we've had numerous proclamations of delivery dates that weren't met, so "believe" is something to be taken but with a grain or two of salt. ...Besides, if everyone's questions were to be answered in a (very long) podcast, what will the naysayers do? EXACTLY the point! Time spent answering the key, not ALL questions from folks here will make it difficult for the naysayers to, well, say "nay". Wouldn't that be refreshing? |
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Post by Topend on Jun 17, 2013 22:54:45 GMT -5
Thanks Keith for your comments. I appreciate every bit of info I can get about the XMC-1.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Post by ÈlTwo on Jun 17, 2013 23:17:03 GMT -5
Whining and complaining won't get it finished any faster. Keith, you take all the fun out of posting here!  |
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Post by 2muchht on Jun 17, 2013 23:25:59 GMT -5
...If you want to hear details (which might change), then follow the forums, and listen carefully to tomorrow's Podcast... Keith, that is exactly what we've been doing here for the past 18 months after the revelation of the last new incarnation of the XMC ("version T") and for many YEARS before that for the original version. We've been following the Forums but there hasn't been much news to follow. I think it is an understatement that we'll listen very carefully to the podcast. No doubt whatever is said it will be parsed out and dissected here in detail. Let's hope that the podcast is the start of a more consistent flow of update info from Emo, not a one shot deal. Time WILL tell... |
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Post by autocrat on Jun 17, 2013 23:46:45 GMT -5
We also have expectations of its being easier to integrate into our XMC-1. Sorry to pull a single sentence out like this, but the above doesn't fill me with joyful expectations of an imminent release. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 2:04:06 GMT -5
More than you need to know about TacT............ Thanks for the post Keith. I like others who have been waiting for 18 months 4 years, I could have at any time bought a different brand pre-pro. I was tempted recently to buy the UMC-200 since it has such great feedback. However, my current system still sounds excellent for both music and movies and the thought of completely re-connecting my system didn't appeal to me. Thus I have waited patiently for the XMC-1. I sensed there was some issue with TACT not working out for some time. I look forward to the podcast tomorrow and I'm sure Big Dan will give us enough information to wet our appetites again. I will wait until the official specs and lists of features is published. Any info on an external phono stage will be of interest to me. I will continue to wait until I have the new XMC-1 in my hot little hands. I'm sure it will shake the competition with a product that no other brand can come even close to in price and performance. |
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Post by GreenKiwi on Jun 18, 2013 5:17:58 GMT -5
What happened to the phono input? And when will we see the alternative available. I don't believe that there was going to be a phono input. I believe that is what the xps-1 is for. |
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Post by weigle2 on Jun 18, 2013 7:27:02 GMT -5
We also have expectations of its being easier to integrate into our XMC-1. Sorry to pull a single sentence out like this, but the above doesn't fill me with joyful expectations of an imminent release. No signs of the XMC-1 ever coming out of it's Coma. "High expectations"? Sure sounds like it's not even known if 'Dirac Live' will even work on the XMC-1. Why can't they just release the XMC-1 without any RC software? |
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