biggar
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Post by biggar on Aug 17, 2013 21:32:31 GMT -5
Actually, I may like these speakers enough to have a pair made with a stained cherry veneer - looks like a keeper.
My 2-channel system is as follows:
7TB hard drive in a Drobo housing - 39,000 tracks about 2000 of them are still awful MP3s rest are ripped to lossless from CDs, high quality downloads from Linn and others about 7000 from iTunes. Plots of vinyl and CDs
Sonos system moves music from my office to the living room Audiolab M-DAC Quad 99 preamp Quad 909 power amp x 2 Music Hall mmf CD25 (now I bypass the on board DAC right to the M-DAC) CJ Walker turntable (Linn Basik arm) Magnum Dynalab FT-11 analogue tuner
Media room as follows
50" Panasonic Viera Apple TV (we don't have a Rogers or Bell service - cant stand the crap so we watch off iTunes, off Netflix and blu ray DVDs) Front Axiom M22 x 2 Axiom VP100 Axiom QS4 x 4 Axiom EP350 Anthem MRX500 Anthem BLX 200
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Post by ocezam on Aug 18, 2013 11:34:05 GMT -5
Lots of drivers, fewer drivers - in my opinion, it's just a matter of opinion and desired dynamics - how do you like your music delivered to your brain. I agree. If any of you took offense at my comments earlier in this thread, I apologize. There's more than one way to skin a cat. and thousands of variations of great speakers too. I haven't heard any Axioms, but I did look at buying some M80s VERY seriously a few years ago. I love the customizable options buyers have concerning finish. ...
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Post by biggar on Aug 18, 2013 20:24:00 GMT -5
I'm not a frequent flyer when it comes to audio stuff. I had a pair of KEFs and a Quad 306 system for ten years before I made any changes. It's only been a year since I bought my first Axioms, the M80. I thought that I'd like the M100 more. Not that there was anything wrong with the 80s but I wanted a bigger sound. Also, despite the fact that I can afford it, my wife watches my gadget buying like a hawk. I saw an opening and ordered the 100s. There was a little screw up on the Axiom end and they have to send me a replacement pair of M100s. In the last three days, I have come to like them so much that I am going to order the replacement pair in a wood veneer with a stain and a semi-gloss finish. First real wood speakers that I have ever purchased. Our Rogers are in wood buy my wife brought those to our union.
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Post by biggar on Aug 21, 2013 12:07:37 GMT -5
Lots of drivers, fewer drivers - in my opinion, it's just a matter of opinion and desired dynamics - how do you like your music delivered to your brain. I agree. If any of you took offense at my comments earlier in this thread, I apologize. There's more than one way to skin a cat. and thousands of variations of great speakers too. I haven't heard any Axioms, but I did look at buying some M80s VERY seriously a few years ago. I love the customizable options buyers have concerning finish. Absolutely no offence taken! ...
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Post by ocezam on Aug 21, 2013 14:27:55 GMT -5
I'm not a frequent flyer when it comes to audio stuff. I had a pair of KEFs and a Quad 306 system for ten years before I made any changes. It's only been a year since I bought my first Axioms, the M80. I thought that I'd like the M100 more. Not that there was anything wrong with the 80s but I wanted a bigger sound. Also, despite the fact that I can afford it, my wife watches my gadget buying like a hawk. I saw an opening and ordered the 100s. There was a little screw up on the Axiom end and they have to send me a replacement pair of M100s. In the last three days, I have come to like them so much that I am going to order the replacement pair in a wood veneer with a stain and a semi-gloss finish. First real wood speakers that I have ever purchased. Our Rogers are in wood buy my wife brought those to our union. That'll look awesome I'm sure. The Polk LSiM's I just ordered are real veneer also. Very classy in my opinion. Let us know what you think when they arrive... ..
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Post by Boomzilla on Dec 23, 2015 17:22:15 GMT -5
...They are working on a trade in program where you trade in your m80's for an m100 depending on their condition and age.. Well, the trade-in option sold me... I wouldn't have bothered EXCEPT for the fact that Axiom offered a very (VERY) generous trade in on my existing Axiom equipment. So - long story short - my new M100s are on the way. What am I hoping to get from them that I wasn't getting from my M80s? 1. Enough bass capability to do away with my subwoofers. The M80s sounded slightly thin by themselves in my room. The additional cone area in the M100s combined with the extra excursion may sufficiently please me that I can get the subs out of the living room. 2. Lower distortion at "normal" listening levels (which, for me, aren't very loud). Again - this is strictly a function of cone area - the lower the driver excursion (for each driver) the lower the THD 3. An end to the speaker upgrade path. Yes, Axiom will absolutely offer newer and "better" speakers down the road, but if I'm sufficiently pleased with what I have... Time will tell. Boomzilla
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Post by garbulky on Dec 23, 2015 18:15:59 GMT -5
Also Boomzilla, I knwo you don't like speakers being further apart but I think the increased vertical height of the speaker will work to improve the sound as well in your larger living room.
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Post by jjkessler on Dec 23, 2015 19:28:38 GMT -5
I am all Axiom as well (M80, 4 QS-8, and VP-180). Did you toe in your M80's? I took out most of the toe in (maybe 10 degrees now) and like the sound better than where I had them before (22 degrees toe in)
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Post by garbulky on Dec 23, 2015 19:49:54 GMT -5
I am all Axiom as well (M80, 4 QS-8, and VP-180). Did you toe in your M80's? I took out most of the toe in (maybe 10 degrees now) and like the sound better than where I had them before (22 degrees toe in) The axioms are tremendously picky about toe in. It's crazy. Also what really helps is making sure they are in a straight line from each other, one not more forward than the other. Also...if there's anything in the way of you and it like an ottoman, it affects its imaging. Also distance from walls. Depending on the distance the bass response changes.
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Post by Boomzilla on Dec 23, 2015 20:40:03 GMT -5
Most speakers are picky about placement. Good placement can make an otherwise ho-hum speaker sound WAY better than it has any right to. Bad placement can make your top-of-the-line speakers sound like HT in a box plastic junk. I don't think Axiom speakers are any more or less picky than others. But placement DOES matter.
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Post by jjkessler on Dec 24, 2015 1:14:26 GMT -5
Bought a laser tape measure to help get the positioning more precise and that has helped a good deal.
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Post by Boomzilla on Dec 24, 2015 9:54:03 GMT -5
Thanks for bringing laser tape measures to my attention, jjkessler - I've had one before, but it was only accurate to 1/10 of a foot. I gave it to the crew that painted my living room - it was accurate enough for them to do estimates with. The technology has improved, and now, even cheap ones can do accuracy to 1/8 of an inch! Time to look into one of those again. Do you recommend any specific brand? Boom
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Post by jjkessler on Dec 24, 2015 10:23:31 GMT -5
I have been using a Bosch GLM 15 from Home Depot.
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Post by Boomzilla on Dec 24, 2015 15:38:18 GMT -5
Thanks kindly.
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Post by sidvicious on Dec 24, 2015 16:01:09 GMT -5
Boom couldn't have been more right here, a larger speaker needs more room to travel those sound waves to bounce off of the walls. If you have the smaller room, a smaller speaker with a sub(s) would be a better option, don't spend the money, especially that amount, you won't be happy, a better sub(s) would even be an option, but in this case, I agree with Boom.
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Post by garbulky on Dec 24, 2015 17:08:25 GMT -5
Boom couldn't have been more right here, a larger speaker needs more room to travel those sound waves to bounce off of the walls. If you have the smaller room, a smaller speaker with a sub(s) would be a better option, don't spend the money, especially that amount, you won't be happy, a better sub(s) would even be an option, but in this case, I agree with Boom. While I agree that a large speaker for a large room. My axiom m80's are also relatively on the large size with 8 drivers and they are in a rather small living room. And I wouldn't have it any other way. I am very glad I didn't go with a smaller speaker. But of course not every large speaker works in a small room....for instance I wouldn't put a Klipsch Heresy in my room. It just wouldn't gel with it.
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Post by Boomzilla on Jan 9, 2016 12:13:57 GMT -5
Ah tink dat I'm gunna hafta try de M-100s on da LONG axis of da room...
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Post by jackfish on Jan 9, 2016 17:35:13 GMT -5
Has any independent lab tested these multiple driver speakers for comb filtering distortion?
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Post by Axis on Jan 9, 2016 17:39:23 GMT -5
Has any independent lab tested these multiple driver speakers for comb filtering distortion? Yes but someone broke the Chain of Custody and the Environmental Protection Agency said they will cause global warming.
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Post by garbulky on Jan 9, 2016 17:43:42 GMT -5
jackfish There's comb filtering if that's what you're wondering. Axiom acknowledges that. But in terms of audibility it doesn't stick out (at least for me). They did an article. www.axiomaudio.com/blog/comb-filtering-%E2%80%93-popular-misconceptions/Now obviously they claim it doesn't matter and obviously they make speakers that have comb filtering. But if you are in the center the effect isn't there in a noticeable way for me at least. Now I did notice problems if you move out of the sweet spot but if you are not in the sweet spot, then I don't see the point of being critical about it. And it may not help its fussiness with placement. BUt it is what it is.
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