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Post by weigle2 on Feb 18, 2014 15:32:28 GMT -5
Wow, thanks Keith. That explains alot on how Dirac is being implemented in the XMC-1 and the requirements needed.
So this means we get back a file of some sort that will be coming from the Dirac server(s). It would be great if this could be copied over the network to the XMC-1 via Ehternet. Or can it only be copied over on something like a USB drive?
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Post by Topend on Feb 18, 2014 16:24:16 GMT -5
Wow, thanks Keith. That explains alot on how Dirac is being implemented in the XMC-1 and the requirements needed. So this means we get back a file of some sort that will be coming from the Dirac server(s). It would be great if this could be copied over the network to the XMC-1 via Ehternet. Or can it only be copied over on something like a USB drive? My understanding is that the XMC-1 must be connected to the network. I'm sure someone here will confirm. Dave.
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Post by audioguy123 on Mar 4, 2014 22:14:27 GMT -5
I've been using DiracLive on my music server with JRiver and JRemote for about a year and it is fabulous. I have compared it to Audyssey (for two channel only) through my Integra and it definitely does a better job --- when comparing the two after-correction response curves AND sounds better. Hence my desire to get the XMC-1.
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Post by novisnick on Mar 4, 2014 23:27:13 GMT -5
Anyone see the pricing on Dirac Live HT?',',,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,POOTF
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Post by novisnick on Mar 5, 2014 0:54:53 GMT -5
$892.00 US
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Post by KeithL on Mar 5, 2014 11:18:28 GMT -5
The software will be run on a computer (probably a laptop); the microphone gets connected to the computer; the computer and the XMC-1 will BOTH have to be connected to your local network; and your local network will have to be connected to the Internet. The computer will take the measurements and, in conjunction with the servers at Dirac, will calculate the correction - which will then be downloaded directly to the XMC-1. Wow, thanks Keith. That explains alot on how Dirac is being implemented in the XMC-1 and the requirements needed. So this means we get back a file of some sort that will be coming from the Dirac server(s). It would be great if this could be copied over the network to the XMC-1 via Ehternet. Or can it only be copied over on something like a USB drive? My understanding is that the XMC-1 must be connected to the network. I'm sure someone here will confirm. Dave.
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Post by novisnick on Mar 5, 2014 11:24:20 GMT -5
Dirac live group buy? They have to be kidding!
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Post by petew on Mar 5, 2014 13:28:09 GMT -5
$892 software license + $1,108 nice looking computer = XMC-1.
All the great pre-amp functions are free.
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Post by bluescale on Mar 5, 2014 15:28:01 GMT -5
The software will be run on a computer (probably a laptop); the microphone gets connected to the computer; the computer and the XMC-1 will BOTH have to be connected to your local network; and your local network will have to be connected to the Internet. The computer will take the measurements and, in conjunction with the servers at Dirac, will calculate the correction - which will then be downloaded directly to the XMC-1. Can you tell us how the test tones, sweeps, etc will be generated? Does the laptop connect the XMC-1 via HDMI? Do we select the tone or sweep we want to run manually using the OSD? Is it all controlled via Ethernet? Just curious and dying for more information.
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Post by petew on Mar 5, 2014 19:58:48 GMT -5
My completely uneducated guess is the XMC-1 generates the test signals internally. The XMC-1 and PC will talk to each other over the wired network.
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Post by taxman2 on Mar 6, 2014 5:31:06 GMT -5
I've tried Dirac live trial and I am not happy with that. The overall output level from Dirac processor is too low, maybe 6-7 db. I prefer to use REW. Sure it is more complicated than Dirac but the results are much more satisfactory.
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Post by weigle2 on Mar 6, 2014 7:29:25 GMT -5
The software will be run on a computer (probably a laptop); the microphone gets connected to the computer; the computer and the XMC-1 will BOTH have to be connected to your local network; and your local network will have to be connected to the Internet. The computer will take the measurements and, in conjunction with the servers at Dirac, will calculate the correction - which will then be downloaded directly to the XMC-1. My understanding is that the XMC-1 must be connected to the network. I'm sure someone here will confirm. Dave. Thanks. We are getting closer to release, and the more known about Dirac the better. Obviously, no wireless connectivity for the XMC-1 was considered, at least not internally. Did this not cross Emotiva's mind when developing the hardware platform? Pardon my ignorance, but can multiple profiles be stored, and if so, how many? I would hope at least 2, one for 2 channel and another for surround. It would also be nice to know what would happen if say, you had to do a hard reset on the XMC-1. Would the Dirac profile get wiped out or is still stored in NV Ram on the XMC-1? Or, is it permanently stored at Dirac, and just re-downloaded again. Another words, do XMC-1 owners have an account with Dirac where this info is stored and be readily available? I'm definitely buying the XMC-1 when it's first released. There are plenty of issues network wise that can show up preventing this scenario from functioning as advertised. Obviously, things like firewall and router settings, and protocols can play into this. Just trying to get a handle on how the Dirac process is designed to work. Thanks.
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Post by Topend on Mar 6, 2014 7:29:31 GMT -5
I've tried Dirac live trial and I am not happy with that. The overall output level from Dirac processor is too low, maybe 6-7 db. I prefer to use REW. Sure it is more complicated than Dirac but the results are much more satisfactory. A true test would be to compare the Dirac results on the XMC-1 to REW PEQ settings on the XMC-1. Dave.
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Post by geebo on Mar 6, 2014 8:06:32 GMT -5
I've tried Dirac live trial and I am not happy with that. The overall output level from Dirac processor is too low, maybe 6-7 db. I prefer to use REW. Sure it is more complicated than Dirac but the results are much more satisfactory. I had no trouble at all with the output levels using the trial version. I was using a Sound Blaster X-Fi external sound card with an Asus laptop. The levels were a complete non-issue. The results were better than I could get with REW and a Behringer 1124P. My only complaints with Dirac was that the trial had to use my laptop as a source for the music and it expired.
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Post by KeithL on Mar 6, 2014 10:08:55 GMT -5
The XMC-1 will require Internet access in order to connect to Dirac's servers as part of the configuration process. I don't have all the details, but so many devices require Internet access these days that almost every home network provides it. (If you can connect to a website and download a file there shouldn't be any problem.) While we're still finalizing a few details, I believe you're you'll be getting one (or, at most, two) profiles you can store (Dirac has to hold something back for their $900 version), but we'll tell you more on that when we have it all finalized. The software will be run on a computer (probably a laptop); the microphone gets connected to the computer; the computer and the XMC-1 will BOTH have to be connected to your local network; and your local network will have to be connected to the Internet. The computer will take the measurements and, in conjunction with the servers at Dirac, will calculate the correction - which will then be downloaded directly to the XMC-1. Thanks. We are getting closer to release, and the more known about Dirac the better. Obviously, no wireless connectivity for the XMC-1 was considered, at least not internally. Did this not cross Emotiva's mind when developing the hardware platform? Pardon my ignorance, but can multiple profiles be stored, and if so, how many? I would hope at least 2, one for 2 channel and another for surround. It would also be nice to know what would happen if say, you had to do a hard reset on the XMC-1. Would the Dirac profile get wiped out or is still stored in NV Ram on the XMC-1? Or, is it permanently stored at Dirac, and just re-downloaded again. Another words, do XMC-1 owners have an account with Dirac where this info is stored and be readily available? I'm definitely buying the XMC-1 when it's first released. There are plenty of issues network wise that can show up preventing this scenario from functioning as advertised. Obviously, things like firewall and router settings, and protocols can play into this. Just trying to get a handle on how the Dirac process is designed to work. Thanks.
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Post by architect7 on Mar 7, 2014 1:43:41 GMT -5
The XMC-1 will require Internet access in order to connect to Dirac's servers as part of the configuration process. I don't have all the details, but so many devices require Internet access these days that almost every home network provides it. (If you can connect to a website and download a file there shouldn't be any problem.) While we're still finalizing a few details, I believe you're you'll be getting one (or, at most, two) profiles you can store (Dirac has to hold something back for their $900 version), but we'll tell you more on that when we have it all finalized. Thanks. We are getting closer to release, and the more known about Dirac the better. Obviously, no wireless connectivity for the XMC-1 was considered, at least not internally. Did this not cross Emotiva's mind when developing the hardware platform? Pardon my ignorance, but can multiple profiles be stored, and if so, how many? I would hope at least 2, one for 2 channel and another for surround. It would also be nice to know what would happen if say, you had to do a hard reset on the XMC-1. Would the Dirac profile get wiped out or is still stored in NV Ram on the XMC-1? Or, is it permanently stored at Dirac, and just re-downloaded again. Another words, do XMC-1 owners have an account with Dirac where this info is stored and be readily available? I'm definitely buying the XMC-1 when it's first released. There are plenty of issues network wise that can show up preventing this scenario from functioning as advertised. Obviously, things like firewall and router settings, and protocols can play into this. Just trying to get a handle on how the Dirac process is designed to work. Thanks. If I understand what you wrote, the delays are not caused by HDMI updates but by Dirac. Is that correct?
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Post by petew on Mar 7, 2014 7:19:49 GMT -5
At this point, what difference does it make?
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Post by weigle2 on Mar 7, 2014 7:53:26 GMT -5
Related to Dirac profiles being stored, does anyone know if the XMC-1 itself can store profiles? This would be ideal.
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Post by KeithL on Mar 7, 2014 10:06:21 GMT -5
At this point there is no single "thing" delaying the XMC-1 - the whole process is moving along quite nicely but, make no mistake, it IS a big project to manufacture a complex product like the XMC-1... The hardware design is final; parts are being built; lots of parts are on their way here already. (We're talking about critical paths and time lines here; so, yes, having to redesign the HMDI board did push other things forward - but it's nowhere near as simple as not being to finish off the den because you changed your mind about the paneling and now you're waiting for them to deliver the new color. If you know anything about manufacturing, then you know how much is involved in bringing a complicated product like the XMC-1 to market. ) We're still doing a little final debugging and tweaking on the firmware - because we want to make sure the XMC-1 works just-so before we start selling them. We're also finishing up rearranging our facilities (to put our new building into full service)... which is also a big project... The Dirac software itself is done, but our software guys and their software guys are still working out a few details. (We're going to make sure that the version of Dirac you get in the XMC-1 does everything it needs to; they want to make sure there are at least a few reasons left why you might want to upgrade to the $900 "premium version".) The XMC-1 will require Internet access in order to connect to Dirac's servers as part of the configuration process. I don't have all the details, but so many devices require Internet access these days that almost every home network provides it. (If you can connect to a website and download a file there shouldn't be any problem.) While we're still finalizing a few details, I believe you're you'll be getting one (or, at most, two) profiles you can store (Dirac has to hold something back for their $900 version), but we'll tell you more on that when we have it all finalized. If I understand what you wrote, the delays are not caused by HDMI updates but by Dirac. Is that correct?
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Post by rogersch on Mar 7, 2014 11:04:41 GMT -5
there are at least a few reasons left why you might want to upgrade to the $900 "premium version".) I hope that in this upgrade price there is a license included for a second installation on a PC as the 900 dollar version of Dirac can be installed on two devices!
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