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Post by pop on Jul 23, 2014 23:52:27 GMT -5
Not just metal but "weapons grade". Cheers Gary Ready for the Zombie Apocalypse, Emotiva style.
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Post by autocrat on Jul 24, 2014 0:28:22 GMT -5
Also is this $50 more for the XMC-1, or would it extend to all new products? Going from $2000 to $2050 isn't much for the XMC-1, but $600 to $650 for the UMC-200 might be. I don't need to spend any more for my remote drawer, Harmony or iPad for me. $50 is $50.
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Post by Metaldude on Jul 24, 2014 0:35:12 GMT -5
Ah , its refreshing to see all supporters of Metal here, he he he he ... Yeah I know , but just couldn't resist... \m/
Metal backlit remote for sure
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Post by edrummereasye on Jul 24, 2014 2:17:46 GMT -5
Metal, backlit and programmable/learning so it could run all my emo gear and charge $150-200 and I'd love that. Hmmm...if analog pre's all used one set of codes....and digital pre-pros another...and likewise receivers...and DACs...amps...CD players...turntables (hey, it's *my* fantasy, 'k?!?)...and one (backlit metal programmable weapons-grade zombie apocalypse-ready) remote arose from Franklin to rule them all...yeah, I'd put some Benjis out for that...
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 24, 2014 10:04:51 GMT -5
Also is this $50 more for the XMC-1, or would it extend to all new products? Going from $2000 to $2050 isn't much for the XMC-1, but $600 to $650 for the UMC-200 might be. I don't need to spend any more for my remote drawer, Harmony or iPad for me. $50 is $50. You're right, my point was that someone buying the UMC-200 may be on a tighter budget than an XMC-1 buyer – not always the case, but a consideration.
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Post by Bonzo on Jul 24, 2014 10:53:28 GMT -5
Metal, backlit and programmable/learning so it could run all my emo gear and charge $150-200 and I'd love that. Hmmm...if analog pre's all used one set of codes....and digital pre-pros another...and likewise receivers...and DACs...amps...CD players...turntables (hey, it's *my* fantasy, 'k?!?)...and one (backlit metal programmable weapons-grade zombie apocalypse-ready) remote arose from Franklin to rule them all...yeah, I'd put some Benjis out for that... Yes, I wonder if Emotiva has ever considered making a fully learning universal remote? Of course everyone and their brother would want to design it "their way," and that would be the real battle. And with smart phones sort of taking over that realm, I wonder if it could be done profitably for Emotiva. But personally I would love it. I've made some detailed posts in the past about what I would and wouldn't want it to have. Back on topic, I would of course prefer metal, but it will be a total waste because after I use it to program my universal remotes, back in the box it will go. I will never be without some form of universal remote ever again. Actually, I have 2 of the exact same remote in our room, programmed exactly the same. That way I have one and the wife has one, and we never have to hand them back and forth. Once you get used to this it's hard to go back. Edit: Went and found my old post and list of things I would want. emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/627645/thread
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Post by Porscheguy on Jul 24, 2014 11:51:39 GMT -5
I wish you put "Either, I don't care" because I don't. Other than Emotiva, all my remotes are plastic and they are fine. I might even prefer them because they don't weigh a lot
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Post by bootman on Jul 24, 2014 12:04:26 GMT -5
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Post by adam631 on Jul 24, 2014 12:05:08 GMT -5
I would pay $50.00 for it, definitely
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Post by SticknStones on Jul 24, 2014 12:18:05 GMT -5
I think you should add the backlit medal with $50 upcharge as Lonnie queried!
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Post by Percussionista on Jul 24, 2014 12:40:43 GMT -5
Couldn't I get one of burnished bamboo? Looks so nice and very environmentally friendly
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Post by Jim on Jul 24, 2014 12:44:14 GMT -5
What would be the point to rebranding it? All it would do is drive up the cost
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Post by bootman on Jul 24, 2014 13:16:55 GMT -5
What would be the point to rebranding it? All it would do is drive up the cost Other manufactures rebrand wholesale cost UMC remotes. Actually Emotiva did this very thing way back when with the DMC-1 using a URC MX-500. web.archive.org/web/20070325214709/http://www.emotiva.com/dmc1.htmlSo this isn't a revolutionary idea. Oh and anyone complaining about the 2014 $2K price of the XMC-1, check out the 2007 $1.5K price of the DMC-1.
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Post by Jim on Jul 24, 2014 13:19:32 GMT -5
m What's the point though? It doesn't seem to bring anything to the table? Including a remote of this complexity would just drive up the cost in my mind.
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Post by Bonzo on Jul 24, 2014 13:20:15 GMT -5
A rebranded URC Digital R50 would make a killer remote. Build quality is much better than any Harmony. (I know I own both) I'm not really a fan of these styles (not calling this one out in particular, this style like the Harmony and others you mention) because they aren't controllable enough. Of course they are better than not having a programmable remote, and they are great for people who want simplistic. I would buy this for my Mom or kids, but not for someone who actually wants to be able to control everything. The current remote for the XMC-1 shows an amount of control more involved than these, like for adjusting trims on the fly etc. Many of these types of remotes aren't "head to head" learning either, only internet based with codes, and that's going to suit me at all. In the end these are "okay," but they are far from perfect, for me. Here's a picture of what I have. First of all, I know it's totally old fashioned compared to what could be done with the screen now (This remote design is over 10 years old). So for this conversation, let's just say any new remote I would want would have a new modern fully designable touch screen. The key here over any smart phone or tablet application is the hard buttons. Some buttons should/must be hard buttons, like volume, channel, and the guide (up down left right enter). Others I prefer hard are the power (separate on and off), device, menu and mute. What I would not want hard is the trim buttons like Emotiva has. I know those settings are temporary changes for the current source, but I would want them on the screen where they could be buried at least 1 level down (choice to do so since the screen will be fully designable), to avoid miss hits or kids or wives changing things hitting the wrong button. Controversial is the shape. At first glance this Sony appears odd, but once you get used to it I actually like it much better. I have a regular remote in the other room and I hate the feel of it in comparison. This Sony has a contour shape on the bottom that makes it easy to hold with one hand. If you read reviews of this Sony, people who love to customize things to the "nth" degree love this thing. My old local VERY high end store still says this is the best overall remote they have ever used. They still talk poetic about it. People who give it crappy reviews are people who really don't want ultimate control, don't understand electronics, or just don't like taking time out of their lives to program things. It's certainly not the easiest thing to program, but it's not as hard as the haters have posted either. As for quality, all I can say is that my original one bought over 10 years ago still works just fine today. The newer one (bought about 8 years ago) is the same, perfect. I even bought a 3rd one that's still in the box just in case one of the others dies. That's how much I like this thing. But we are not "bulls in china shops" either, so how much royal abuse they can stand is unknown. Anyway, yeah this Sony thing is old, but I still haven't found one I like better overall. What I say is this is a great place to start, and then make modern improvements from there. As for price, if Emotiva made a totally kick ass metal universal remote that did all I wanted, I'd easily pay $300-$400 for it, and maybe more. The remote is the single most important ergonomic device in a system, and I use it everyday. You get what you pay for, and in a remote it's worth every penny. Attachments:
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Post by Bonzo on Jul 24, 2014 13:28:18 GMT -5
What's the point though? It doesn't seem to bring anything to the table? Including a remote of this complexity would just drive up the cost in my mind. I agree. That's why I think if Emotiva were to do this, they should just offer their own totally separate remote that you can buy if you want, or not if you don't, just like all their other components. Emotiva is all about separates, so why not a remote? I'd keep the remotes that come with the devices as cheap as possible, even plastic and re-branded to keep the price as low as possible, then put the cost into a kick ass universal metal tank.
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Post by bootman on Jul 24, 2014 13:29:11 GMT -5
I know that Sony device well. Owned one myself. The URCs are just as useful if (like the Sony) you know how to program them.
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Post by Bonzo on Jul 24, 2014 13:41:55 GMT -5
I know that Sony device well. Owned one myself. The URCs are just as useful if (like the Sony) you know how to program them. Did it give up on you or did you move on? Just curious. I have found that macro wise they work great. But customizing individual buttons, not so much. And they usually have too many hard buttons and not enough soft. So far I just haven't found one that does everything the Sony does and better. There will come a day for sure, but not so far, for me at least. One thing about the Sony that I didn't mention was it's wide array IR blaster. It's so wide and strong that you absolutely do not have to aim the remote when using it. I've even set it backwards in the opposite direction and it works. Really great.
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Post by djoel on Jul 24, 2014 13:44:03 GMT -5
I need a Uni remote, and this one looks great, but do I need a PhD to program one? Never been a fan of the harmony ones, had several with all the same results. Dan
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Post by bootman on Jul 24, 2014 14:45:46 GMT -5
I know that Sony device well. Owned one myself. The URCs are just as useful if (like the Sony) you know how to program them. Did it give up on you or did you move on? Just curious. I have found that macro wise they work great. But customizing individual buttons, not so much. And they usually have too many hard buttons and not enough soft. So far I just haven't found one that does everything the Sony does and better. There will come a day for sure, but not so far, for me at least. One thing about the Sony that I didn't mention was it's wide array IR blaster. It's so wide and strong that you absolutely do not have to aim the remote when using it. I've even set it backwards in the opposite direction and it works. Really great. Moved on. touch screen on mine started to act weird. I think one of my kids spilled water on it but was never sure. URC makes remotes in this format.
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