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Post by bluemeanies on Aug 6, 2016 21:44:37 GMT -5
While people are still going ape S_ _ _t over the 20th remastered version of "Stairway to Heaven" 50 years ....REVOLVER!...a real game changer in music.
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Post by knucklehead on Aug 6, 2016 23:18:51 GMT -5
Rubber Soul is the first Beatles album that I found interesting. Revolver was pretty good as well but I wouldn't call it a watershed album for rock - maybe for the Beatles though. Abbey Road is my favorite of the Beatles stuff.
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Post by bluemeanies on Aug 7, 2016 7:05:10 GMT -5
Rubber Soul is the first Beatles album that I found interesting. Revolver was pretty good as well but I wouldn't call it a watershed album for rock - maybe for the Beatles though. Abbey Road is my favorite of the Beatles stuff. Z It's not just the music! It's the progressive techniques of recording that bought REVOLVER in the limelight. The Beatles were a cornacoupia of genius in the recording studio along with the help of their friend George Martin. The album IMO was one of their best. The amazing thing about this band is that everyone of their albums had something unique, with a different style transcending music in the industry. Even the album cover broke barriers in the world of art...it's conception was was given birth by Klaus Voormann.s
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Post by vneal on Aug 7, 2016 8:50:59 GMT -5
Revolver is my favorite Beatle album.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 7, 2016 11:56:32 GMT -5
Picking a favorite Beatles' album isn't easy for me. Last week I did several needle drops of the early albums to help a friend put together some pre-show music for a showing of "A Hard Day's Night" – he didn't want anything in the movie or after it – as we recorded I was singing along like a teenager. But my favorite period is Rubber Soul through Sgt. Pepper, and Revolver has some of my favorite songs, certainly one of their best.
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Post by bluemeanies on Aug 7, 2016 12:31:03 GMT -5
Revolver is my favorite Beatle album. To say it's my favorite...I can't but it sure is a great,damn good album vneal! YOU HAVE GOOD TASTE! A sensitive palate¡ haha We all have our favorites from songs to albums to album art. I love "Mr. Moonlight" on "Something New"...JL raw vocals! The song is highly underrated and virtually unrecognized.
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 7, 2016 16:59:04 GMT -5
And, as always, I'll be the turd in the punchbowl...
Yes, the Beatles were an amazingly good band.
Yes, the Beatles were amazingly innovative in the studio.
Yes, the Beatles were a transformative cultural phenomenon.
But we're still Beatles fans BECAUSE we lived through their introduction & their cultural impact.
Decades from now, will people still play Beatles songs? As much as we'd like to think so, I'm doubting it. Why? A friend of mine who is a GENIUS elementary school teacher exposes her kids to all sorts of music (including the Beatles). She reports that Beatles music, for kids that age, is mostly a yawn. They just don't like it or get it.
The music is important (and the group is important) to those of us who lived through it. For those who DIDN'T live through it, it seems to have far, far less traction.
The Brittney Spears generation hasn't "grown into" being Beatles fans, and they never will. The rap generation hasn't either.
The "classic" pop music for them (as it was for us) is the music that was popular when they were coming of age.
So like it or not, as we die off, the Beatles die off with us. Their music may be a curiosity for some time to come, but they'll never be played again in another 50 years.
Deal with it.
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Post by monkumonku on Aug 7, 2016 17:16:06 GMT -5
And, as always, I'll be the turd in the punchbowl... Yes, the Beatles were an amazingly good band. Yes, the Beatles were amazingly innovative in the studio. Yes, the Beatles were a transformative cultural phenomenon. But we're still Beatles fans BECAUSE we lived through their introduction & their cultural impact. Decades from now, will people still play Beatles songs? As much as we'd like to think so, I'm doubting it. Why? A friend of mine who is a GENIUS elementary school teacher exposes her kids to all sorts of music (including the Beatles). She reports that Beatles music, for kids that age, is mostly a yawn. They just don't like it or get it. The music is important (and the group is important) to those of us who lived through it. For those who DIDN'T live through it, it seems to have far, far less traction. The Brittney Spears generation hasn't "grown into" being Beatles fans, and they never will. The rap generation hasn't either. The "classic" pop music for them (as it was for us) is the music that was popular when they were coming of age. So like it or not, as we die off, the Beatles die off with us. Their music may be a curiosity for some time to come, but they'll never be played again in another 50 years. Deal with it.Oh so you mean the Beatles will be like vinyl? Or tube equipment? Just a niche? While it is true a majority of post-Beatles people aren't Beatles fans, you can say the same thing about jazz greats like Coltrane, Davis, etc. How many of them play the great jazz artists? That takes nothing away from their musical genius, however, and neither does the current portion of population who are Beatles fans take anything away from their musical genius, either. As we die off the Beatles will not die off and neither will the great jazz musicians. Or great classical composers.
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 7, 2016 17:36:21 GMT -5
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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 7, 2016 19:09:49 GMT -5
It depends on what they listened to as children, my kids (32 and 29) grew up on Queen, Pink Floyd, Beatles, Deep Purple, Meatloaf, ACDC, Eagles, Little River Band etc, listening and singing along in the car on the long journeys. We did a lot of driving holidays when the kids were young and it's a long way from one place to another place in Australia. Plenty of time to sing along.
It's all about exposure, and we owe it to the following generations to educate them on what good rock and roll really is.
Cheers Gary
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Post by klinemj on Aug 7, 2016 19:30:22 GMT -5
I don't care what future generations think. I love the Beatles. And, if they had not existed, I doubt we would have made the progress that has been made in music. Would U2, The Clash, Beck, Queen, Kansas, Styx, the whole new wave and alternative movements have happened without the Beatles? Maybe, maybe not.
How they did, when they did.
Mark
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Post by stiehl11 on Aug 7, 2016 21:28:58 GMT -5
And, as always, I'll be the turd in the punchbowl... Yes, the Beatles were an amazingly good band. Yes, the Beatles were amazingly innovative in the studio. Yes, the Beatles were a transformative cultural phenomenon. But we're still Beatles fans BECAUSE we lived through their introduction & their cultural impact. Decades from now, will people still play Beatles songs? As much as we'd like to think so, I'm doubting it. Why? A friend of mine who is a GENIUS elementary school teacher exposes her kids to all sorts of music (including the Beatles). She reports that Beatles music, for kids that age, is mostly a yawn. They just don't like it or get it. The music is important (and the group is important) to those of us who lived through it. For those who DIDN'T live through it, it seems to have far, far less traction. The Brittney Spears generation hasn't "grown into" being Beatles fans, and they never will. The rap generation hasn't either. The "classic" pop music for them (as it was for us) is the music that was popular when they were coming of age. So like it or not, as we die off, the Beatles die off with us. Their music may be a curiosity for some time to come, but they'll never be played again in another 50 years. Deal with it.My daughter likes their music. Her friends like their music. My niece in 7th grade loves their music. Will it be as popular as it was in the 60's? No. Will it still have an audience. Yes.
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Post by stiehl11 on Aug 7, 2016 21:32:55 GMT -5
I'm going to the Paul McCartney concert next weekend. I'll see how many "Boomers" are there, how many like me (Gen X) born after their last album are there and how many "kids" (Millennials) are there. I've got a feeling there be plenty of each there.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 7, 2016 21:40:45 GMT -5
Not the Beatles, but at least a beatle is still popular.
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Post by bluemeanies on Aug 7, 2016 21:41:17 GMT -5
There are so many good responses and theories but in the end no one can predict the future of the legendary band we call the Beatles. What I have proof of is that they are the most innovative band and collectively the most artistic that I have discovered since their arrival on the ED SULLIVAN show. Who remembers that guy? Lol The Beatles influenced more than just music...art, clothes, politics and yes religion and the first music videos. Thatt is what drew us in. There never was or will be any group of musicians so talented and interesting to watch. My good friend has a niece in her late 20's a big BEATLES fan ...took a tour of London England. She visited Abbey Road, John Lennons house where he was raise by his aunt and has everyone of their albums. Sure she may be a rare breed, the diamond in the rough so to speak but it's good to know that there is hope the baton is passed on.
Boom maybe right in his analytical analysis of the future of Beatle music but for me that time is not in my future.
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Post by bluemeanies on Aug 7, 2016 21:44:14 GMT -5
Not the Beatles, but at least a beatle is still popular. That's one event I wish never happened...Paul had a lot of musical nuances in his lifetime as an artists but not this time.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 7, 2016 22:00:19 GMT -5
bluemeanies - won't deny there's a bit of cringe factor to it. But still Paul is Paul and it's a catchy song!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 1:00:21 GMT -5
First, understand that I'm not big into poetry or lyrics. I certainly do enjoy lyrics but for me the melody is king. Writing intense lyrics like Dylan's Positively 4th Street or Don McLean's American Pie, I believe is a real skill quite similar to great poetry. But my love of music has always been partial to the melody. Writing excellent lyrics is difficult and an enviable skill. However, composing a wonderful and lasting melody is a skill very few songwriters of any musical genre or period possess. Think back some years, decades or even centuries to any group or songwriter in modern music of any type. Try to identify one that has written more than a handful of truly memorable song melodies ..... there aren't very many. I went thru the list of 237 recorded Beatles original compositions and checked off 50 plus that I considered to be very pleasant, romantic and memorable melodies. One way I use to determine what is a memorable melody is which songs are covered by instrumental groups and orchestras that do full albums of Beatles covers. Also check how many covers have been produced of any particular popular song (Frank Sinatra, 493 covers ----- The Beatles, 2710 covers ..... The Beatles/Lennon have 5 out of the top 10 most covered). Who is considered to be the best pop songwriters of all time (Dylan #1, Paul McCartney #2, John Lennon #3 --- Rolling Stone.com). As far as the most played songs in the 20th century on American radio and TV, The Beatles tie with Simon and Garfunkel for #1. I can see in the future, 50-100 years or more, a pianist sitting down at the piano and playing a long extended medley of the Beatles best melodies and love songs, without identifying the source. Most of the listeners will spontaneously remark: Oh what beautiful music! (Try that with some songs from Nirvana or Pearl Jam.) Not to get into the which Beatle was the best, but in my book Paul was the musical/melodic genius, with lots of romantic and fun lyrics. John was more serious, deep into the melody and lyrics with a tendency towards the sad and depressed. (Hell, if you had to be around Yoko Ono all day you'd be depressed too!) Yesterday, written entirely by Paul McCartney, is the most widely recorded song of all-time. To date, at least 4,000 plus different versions of the classic Beatles tune have been recorded by various artists. It was released on the Beatles Help! album in 1965. The song was never released as a single in Britain until after the band had officially split up (the Yesterday as a single idea was vetoed by John, George and Ringo ..... no jealousy there!). In 1997, Yesterday was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame. It was voted the best song of the 20th century in a BBC2 poll of music experts and listeners. It was voted #1 pop song of all-time by MTV and Rolling Stone magazine. Broadcast Music Incorporated (BMI) asserts that Yesterday was performed over 7 million times in the 20th century. (That's almost more than Happy Birthday!) Some Lounge Lizard above posted: Decades from now, will people still play Beatles songs? As much as we'd like to think so, I'm doubting it.50 years ago (5 decades) the Beatles released Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby, I'll Follow The Sun, Michelle, plus more. If we say 4.5 - 5 decades I could list Let It Be and then go on and on with many songs. I think we will be hearing Beatles songs for many decades to come, original, covered and as instrumentals.
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Post by mfeust on Aug 8, 2016 15:10:28 GMT -5
I'm going to the Paul McCartney concert next weekend. I'll see how many "Boomers" are there, how many like me (Gen X) born after their last album are there and how many "kids" (Millennials) are there. I've got a feeling there be plenty of each there. I am sorry because Paul is a legend. But he is at the top of my current list of worst singing voice. Mark
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 8, 2016 15:13:30 GMT -5
Musical skills don't last forever. Voices change with age and fingers lose their flexibility, precision, and speed. In his prime, Sir Paul had his chops down just fine.
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