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Post by Nemesis.ie on Apr 27, 2010 6:21:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that, movies sound superb un the UMC-1.
I also don't agree with some comments/opinion that something "will do for HT" or that there is less of a need for SQ in HT use, or you can't tell a difference between systems with movies but can with Music.
I hear a lot of MUSIC in movies (and generally the movie sound appears to be higher bit-rate/quality than we find on CD and certainly things like MP3) and find them more engaging when it (and of course the dialogue and effects) sounds good. I have noticed a dramatic improvement in in-movie music as well as effects etc. with the UMC-1.
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Post by treky22 on Apr 27, 2010 6:28:06 GMT -5
I've mailed Sarah for an estimate on my UMC-1 today, so i'll wait for that answer.
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Post by avnut on Apr 27, 2010 6:43:34 GMT -5
Not meaning to hijack the thread, but I see people suggest the XMC-1 as a possible alternative to the UMC-1. Where do I sign up for the XMC preorder?  I was told that the pre order list would be reopened as soon as the new graphics design person had a chance to design a web page. |
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Post by treky22 on Apr 27, 2010 12:56:14 GMT -5
Damn, i just got a pm that. if iwant to. i can pick up the Onkyo PR-SC886 friday or saturday (what suits me best), and ofcourse bring the money with me.
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Post by NorthStar on Apr 27, 2010 13:44:59 GMT -5
Thats why i started this topic. There is an Onkyo 886 in the market here, €800,-. 2 Months old. But i also have the UMC-1 (according to Sarah) planned between May 15th and May 30th. And that ofcourse a new one. There was a powerbuy here for the Onkyo PR-SC5507, but that's not an option at the moment for me. So i went for the UMC-1 or the 886. The Onkyo has Audyssey and more connections, but the reviews for the UMC-1 are gettin better and better. And the E is a nice match with my XPA-5. That's why it's a difficult decision between the two ..... Very easy; get both, and sell the one that you think is not for you in your own system. Can't loose, you'll get your money back for sure.  |
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Post by NorthStar on Apr 27, 2010 13:46:01 GMT -5
So if i'm gonna play movies and bluray, the best is the onkyo ? And if i wanna listen to music , the best is the emotiva ? Do you have two separate systems at your place?  |
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Post by NorthStar on Apr 27, 2010 13:50:20 GMT -5
Damn, i just got a pm that. if iwant to. i can pick up the Onkyo PR-SC886 friday or saturday (what suits me best), and ofcourse bring the money with me. Get it. And when the UMC-1 comes in (soon) you'll be able to compare, a very nice privilege. That is the very best way to do business in a smart manner. You'll end up with the one you truly like the most from your own experience, and you might end up with a small profit selling the other one. |
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Post by treky22 on Apr 27, 2010 17:27:42 GMT -5
Thats not an option, to buy them both. My wife said just pick one  I also had mail back from Sarah ... 4 weeks and then it's my turn for the UMC-1. CHoices to be made here |
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Post by ianfromnotts on Apr 27, 2010 17:53:49 GMT -5
Not meaning to hijack the thread, but I see people suggest the XMC-1 as a possible alternative to the UMC-1. Where do I sign up for the XMC preorder? I was told that the pre order list would be reopened as soon as the new graphics design person had a chance to design a web page. Things must change fast because all I could get a week ago when I asked about a pre order list was "do not have a release date for either products at this time, we are still in development" |
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Post by wizardofoz on Apr 28, 2010 6:55:58 GMT -5
I dumped a onkyo 606 that I did a preout DIY mod on for the UMC-1 and I must say I am very happy...even the mrs said was a good buy and sounds good...and I havent even touched the EQ settings yet its factory for now with some very rough speaker distance and cutoff settings
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Post by BillBauman on Apr 28, 2010 7:47:01 GMT -5
Thats not an option, to buy them both. My wife said just pick one I also had mail back from Sarah ... 4 weeks and then it's my turn for the UMC-1. CHoices to be made here Is your wife going to be using the system? if so, definitely just go with the 886. I use my UMC-1 either for testing (the audio problems with video) or exclusively 2-channel pre. I honestly don't think it's ready for primetime at this point and the 886 certainly is. |
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Post by dotvibe on Apr 28, 2010 8:56:27 GMT -5
gosh, was listening to my UMC-1 again last night. First watching Bourne Ultimatum in DTS-HD MA and then just listening to some FLAC music files. Goodness gracious me, CRYSTAL CLARITY. My B&W's has never sounded this good.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Apr 28, 2010 12:40:31 GMT -5
Likewise my 6.3s. |
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Post by bborzell on Apr 28, 2010 14:09:31 GMT -5
So if i'm gonna play movies and bluray, the best is the onkyo ? And if i wanna listen to music , the best is the emotiva ? The questions you are asking can result in nothing but subjective responses. Ask 10 people, get ten probably different answers. Here's why there would be a simple choice for me given your expressed options; I have purchased two Onkyo products over the years and both of them turned out to have short life spans. One is currently sitting on a shelf in the garage waiting for me to finally give up and toss it. Onkyo service is practically non existent in the states and repair costs easily exceed the replacement cost. That said, my UMC-1 replaced a Rotel RSP-1066 that I was happy with for more than 10 years (still works like a charm). There is simply no comparison in audio and video quality between the Rotel and the Emotiva. Now that I have installed the beta FW, the UMC-1 is at least as bug free as the Rotel ever was. I am still working on a solution to M/C analog with SACDs, but SACDs over HDMI sound great too. I am convinced that the M/C analog issue will be resolved shortly. |
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Post by NorthStar on Apr 28, 2010 16:45:46 GMT -5
Thats not an option, to buy them both. My wife said just pick one I also had mail back from Sarah ... 4 weeks and then it's my turn for the UMC-1. CHoices to be made here Is your wife going to be using the system? if so, definitely just go with the 886. I use my UMC-1 either for testing (the audio problems with video) or exclusively 2-channel pre. I honestly don't think it's ready for primetime at this point and the 886 certainly is. Perhaps she will only look at it, then he should go with the UMC-1. ;D ...Besides, the UMC-1 sounds very sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! |
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Post by frankv on Apr 29, 2010 1:28:24 GMT -5
When you say that there is simply no comparison with respect to the audio and video quality of the Emotiva vs your Rotel 1066, is it a matter of additional functionality that provides the main improvements (e.g. HDMI and Blu-Ray HD audio formats)? I have a Rotel RSX-1056 that is lacking those features as well, but I route video directly to the projector, so HDMI is not a biggie (except for if I wanted to use SACD from my PS/3), and I use Dolby Surround EX and/or its DTS equivalent for my 7.1 speaker setup when available, not sure how much I'm missing out on there (vs the lossless Blu-Ray audio formats). So if i'm gonna play movies and bluray, the best is the onkyo ? And if i wanna listen to music , the best is the emotiva ? The questions you are asking can result in nothing but subjective responses. Ask 10 people, get ten probably different answers. Here's why there would be a simple choice for me given your expressed options; I have purchased two Onkyo products over the years and both of them turned out to have short life spans. One is currently sitting on a shelf in the garage waiting for me to finally give up and toss it. Onkyo service is practically non existent in the states and repair costs easily exceed the replacement cost. That said, my UMC-1 replaced a Rotel RSP-1066 that I was happy with for more than 10 years (still works like a charm). There is simply no comparison in audio and video quality between the Rotel and the Emotiva. Now that I have installed the beta FW, the UMC-1 is at least as bug free as the Rotel ever was. I am still working on a solution to M/C analog with SACDs, but SACDs over HDMI sound great too. I am convinced that the M/C analog issue will be resolved shortly. |
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Post by hakanberg on Apr 29, 2010 7:24:37 GMT -5
Already closed. If they reopen the XMC-1 preorder I will be signing up. Me too... |
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Post by bborzell on Apr 29, 2010 9:14:03 GMT -5
When you say that there is simply no comparison with respect to the audio and video quality of the Emotiva vs your Rotel 1066, is it a matter of additional functionality that provides the main improvements (e.g. HDMI and Blu-Ray HD audio formats)? I have a Rotel RSX-1056 that is lacking those features as well, but I route video directly to the projector, so HDMI is not a biggie (except for if I wanted to use SACD from my PS/3), and I use Dolby Surround EX and/or its DTS equivalent for my 7.1 speaker setup when available, not sure how much I'm missing out on there (vs the lossless Blu-Ray audio formats). The questions you are asking can result in nothing but subjective responses. Ask 10 people, get ten probably different answers. Here's why there would be a simple choice for me given your expressed options; I have purchased two Onkyo products over the years and both of them turned out to have short life spans. One is currently sitting on a shelf in the garage waiting for me to finally give up and toss it. Onkyo service is practically non existent in the states and repair costs easily exceed the replacement cost. That said, my UMC-1 replaced a Rotel RSP-1066 that I was happy with for more than 10 years (still works like a charm). There is simply no comparison in audio and video quality between the Rotel and the Emotiva. Now that I have installed the beta FW, the UMC-1 is at least as bug free as the Rotel ever was. I am still working on a solution to M/C analog with SACDs, but SACDs over HDMI sound great too. I am convinced that the M/C analog issue will be resolved shortly. My comment re: audio and video quality between the Rotel and UMC-1 should be weighted well toward audio quality. As you rightly point out, the Rotel didn't have HDMI so there is no way to compare video under HDMI. However, I used two component video inputs through the Rotel to my projector and did try out both in component before switching one (Dish VIP622) to HDMI video and the picture quality improved. The other component hookup (XBOX 360) remains component and I'm not sure that I can see a significant improvement over the run through the Rotel with component. On balance though, the greatest improvement is in audio and the Rotel was no slouch in that category. |
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Post by treky22 on Apr 29, 2010 14:40:04 GMT -5
I made my choice today:
I´m goin for the UMC-1 ;D
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Post by bborzell on Apr 29, 2010 15:52:46 GMT -5
I think you will be quite pleased with the performance of the UMC-1.
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