Make your xda-1 sound better

[carlp336]

lol road apples.

[GMan]

Charles,

Are you a fan of Monster Cables as well?

[alhull]

Mar 7, 2011 9:11:26 GMT -5 GMan said:

Charles,

Are you a fan of Monster Cables as well?

Ka-ching! you just used their name. Pay them a royalty!!

[NorthStar]

Mar 7, 2011 4:48:07 GMT -5 ronm1 said:

Mar 7, 2011 3:31:01 GMT -5 NorthStar said:

Sounds to me that so far only the OP (Charles), me (Bob), and AZsoundman all three of us agree.

... And even if I know that the other members don't mean to be mean, it does remind me of Audioholics type of mentality at times.

* Charles, you are perfectly right; your ears don't lie to you.

____________________

Woooooo, watch out now for the replies Bob & AZsoundman! ;D

Bob you can add me to your group!!!

You're on Ron! ...You are now part of the SMART team of the real set of Audiophiliac Ears! ;D

[NorthStar]

Mar 7, 2011 6:04:30 GMT -5 @kraemerkid2119 said:

Add me I love my Nordost XLR's and Kimber Kables

You're on too Matt! ...KimberKables, Ya baby! ;D ...Nordost too!

[NorthStar]

Mar 7, 2011 8:46:39 GMT -5 carlp336 said:

lol road apples.

Loser! ;D ..........................................................jk Carl.

[NorthStar]

Mar 7, 2011 9:11:26 GMT -5 GMan said:

Charles,

Are you a fan of Monster Cables as well?

Oh that's a low blow! ;D

* I don't personally encourage Monster Cables outrageous prices,
but they do have some good quality cables (the M series for speaker wires for example).
-> The main problem with this company is their prices! And the way they interfer with anyone having the name "Monster" in their company logo! They are very bad in their actions, and just for that alone they don't deserve any kind of encouragement!
It is very sad the prices they charged to normal people (customers like us), and the way they do business around them!

Transparent Cables is another company that is way out there in the world of pizzazz! The Wilson's family! Terrible! ...And they get rich by praying on the uneducated richer people!

[bobbyt]

Mar 7, 2011 3:09:40 GMT -5 azsoundman said:

Hey You Guys, Their is some real science here. What really happens is, buy improving Both the gauge & the construction of the materials used equals less 'stress' on the power supply so amplifiers do run a little
cooler. The net result is a very small 'change' in SPL, which you Can hear, but being louder it is incorrectly
identifiied as 'better sounding' or described as providing better detail, a more open soundstage, etc. The same result happens in both a 15 amp or 20 amp circuit. NO, I do not believe in $100 dollar power cords,
but in reality it can allow both an increase in amperage and response time. Heres a good analogy; The stock exhaust system in most vechicles restricts the exhaust 'flow' when it combines both sides of the
engine into a single muffler and out a single tailpipe. Now when a dual exhaust system is used, each side
of the engine is allowed to vent independently from each other, better acceleration and 'performance' so to speak. We did NOT change the 'engine' at all (your amplifier) but we Did give it a 'better' way (your power cord) to both expell its waste and lower its pressure with less restrictions. If you take a stock 16G
power cord and change it to a 12 or 13 guage power cord, You Will Hear what I explained above. We all know any non shielded cord or cable just becomes an 'Antenna for RF interference' which Does have an effect on the current or signal passing thru the line. So the use of 'multi-stranded' pure Copper or Silver, along with an increase of gauge and better RF protection, can at the very least, make a difference in that last 'leg' of transmission. So, my thoughts are to take a trip down to your local Electrical Supply House, and give it a try. The Good thing is your spending perhaps $20 to $30 dollars, NOT $200 or $300, for cosmetics and 'bragging rights'. If your Line Source Filter and Surge protector, has dedicated 'outlets' for
both Analog and Digital filtering, along with a 'High Power' (current) section, and uses a 'standard' power cord that is removable from the unit, Try upgrading and replacing that first. We all have our own opinions
on 'What will actually 'improve' our system performance, and at what price your willing to pay for it.
Now Here is My main point; NO one has the right to treat another person (especially someone 'new' to the fourm) with the amount of Disrespect YOU guys did on another member who YES has a Right to share his or her opinion about 'tweeks' to their system. You may choose to disagree with them, but the
sarcasm and BS that was given here, is UNCALLED For Period. Do YOU actually think this person will EVER
return to the fourm after being treated like THAT? Especially someone who is perhaps 'new' to High End Gear, and is happy to find 'others' like himself, Only to be ridiculed by a bunch of Snobs, Know it alls, being
totally disrespectful to another persons right to speak? Do You Think He Will Come Back or even now consider buying from EMOTIVA, So YOU Hurt The Company Itself, Nice Job Boys, and I DO mean 'Boys'
NOT men... Remember that first time You set foot into your local High End Dealer, and got either TOTALY
Ignored, or even worse treated with so much 'attitude' you had to leave with your 'tail between your legs'
thinking 'It Must Be Me'? We have a 'private message' option, that you should use If you want to 'Pull This Crap' instead of treating another user like 'S--T'. Remember, At sometime, We ALL were the 'New Guy'...
How Would That make YOU Feel? I'm embarrassed to even admit, I'm an EMOTIVA client, after that BS.
Challenge anyones Ideas or Philosophy, engage in a 'healthy debate' but do not call anyone 'stupid' just because you do not agree.They have as Much Right to Share their ideas and experiences as YOU do.
How do YOU Think Vince or Rachel or Big Dan, Cathy, Lonnie or Sarah would Feel reading your remarks,
YOU Hurt Not Only EMOTIVA, but everyone else in the Audio Community. Quit acting like a bunch of
'Snot Nosed Spoiled Brats'
Azsoundman

Writing like this is incredibly hard to read. If you post a solid wall of text with no paragraphs to separate your thoughts and add white space, most people are going to skip right over it. Randomly capitalizing and "quoting" every other word doesn't help.

And you don't need to sign your posts...your screen name is to the left of every one of them.

The exhaust comparison doesn't work because your typical exhaust system restricts an engine's output somewhat, whereas even relatively small gauge speaker cable has so little resistance as to be irrelevant. Multi-hundred dollar power and multi-thousand dollar speaker cables are not a matter of marginal improvement; the difference is not based in reality and makes them fish oil.

[azsoundman]

I'm Sorry You are unable to 'read' my post, and I guess you must have been an english teacher in a past life. That 'Engineer' brain of yours is obviously confused because you missed the whole point of it! Oh thats right, you can't comprehend anything that isn't Black or White, thats because they are incapable of
hearing things that can't be explained on paper. Too Bad... You will miss out on so many things that the
other side of your brain could bring to the table, but that involves any sort of feeling or emotion, which most 'Engineers' can't deal with. Did I need to sign my post?, No but I chose to do so for reasons that you need not understand, because their not About you.- Fish Oil? Your the Only one who has to 'listen' and I know thats hard for most people like yourself, to your system, Hook it up with Tinker Toys and rubber bands for all I care.
We Agree to Disagree, which I can accept, You obviously cannot, because
its NOT a part of Your world, so be it. OH..BTW.. You missed the following statements in my post; NO, I do not believe in $100 dollar power cords,
and So, my thoughts are to take a trip down to your local Electrical Supply House, and give it a try. The Good thing is your spending perhaps $20 to $30 dollars, NOT $200 or $300, for cosmetics and 'bragging rights'
I'm not sure where your $$ figures came from, not from what I wrote thats for sure! We BOTH can Agree on the XDA-1 DAC, great unit for the money, so in some ways we really ARE alike. Oh, and on the 'exhaust' comparison (Damn I used quotes, I forgot they make it hard for you to read) it is and was intended as a anaolgy, Not a set of stone tablets pulled out from underneath a burning bush.

[iceman66]

Mar 8, 2011 2:42:18 GMT -5 azsoundman said:

I'm Sorry You are unable to 'read' my post, and I guess you must have been an english teacher in a past life. That 'Engineer' brain of yours is obviously confused because you missed the whole point of it! Oh thats right, you can't comprehend anything that isn't Black or White, thats because they are incapable of
hearing things that can't be explained on paper. Too Bad... You will miss out on so many things that the
other side of your brain could bring to the table, but that involves any sort of feeling or emotion, which most 'Engineers' can't deal with. Did I need to sign my post?, No but I chose to do so for reasons that you need not understand, because their not About you.- Fish Oil? Your the Only one who has to 'listen' and I know thats hard for most people like yourself, to your system, Hook it up with Tinker Toys and rubberbands

wrong grammar, bad speeling, Random Capitalization and 'un'necessary 'use' of quotation marks 'do' nothing but distract the reader from whatever point you might be trying to make.

- Not an Engineer nor an English teacher

[azsoundman]

Again, Me Bad... I really do not care What you think, I always find it amazing those who criticize the most,
usually have Nothing to say... If you can't read my posts, then don't. its really that simple. I thought this was a Forum on Audio/Video gear, not a test of spelling and perfect grammar. I'm interested in what people own, what they think of it, how its connected, and what it sounds like. The rest is useless BS.
Again I see 'Mr Know It Alls', Audio Snobs, and people who really have Nothing to say, and I really am Sorry you can't understand the big picture of my posts. I did finish the rest of my last post, so you might want to read it, but then again IF you have nothing to say on point, then your comments about anything else are meaningless to begin with. Very simply if correcting mistakes on my grammer or spelling brings you great joy, then feel to do so. I appreciate your concern about my well being, I'm doing just fine...

[bobbyt]

I don't see any audio snobbery when I read the posts here, just people trying to share their ideas. What I do see is someone throwing a temper tantrum.

No, the forum doesn't require spelling tests and perfect grammar, but English happens to be our medium for exchanging ideas, so when you butcher it beyond recognition it makes things difficult. Most of us take the extra few seconds to glance over our posts and make sure they're readable. Call it common courtesy to everyone else.

I'm sorry we're unable to comprehend your "big picture". Perhaps if your posts weren't written in a way that would be unacceptable for elementary school students we'd be able to see your brilliance.

[Deleted]

Mar 8, 2011 5:50:20 GMT -5 bobbyt said:

I don't see any audio snobbery when I read the posts here, just people trying to share their ideas. What I do see is someone throwing a temper tantrum.

No, the forum doesn't require spelling tests and perfect grammar, but English happens to be our medium for exchanging ideas, so when you butcher it beyond recognition it makes things difficult. Most of us take the extra few seconds to glance over our posts and make sure they're readable. Call it common courtesy to everyone else.

I'm sorry we're unable to comprehend your "big picture". Perhaps if your posts weren't written in a way that would be unacceptable for elementary school students we'd be able to see your brilliance.

So when someone says "charles, are you a fan of monster cables as well?"

That's not being a total dick and snobby???

Prove to me that cables can't make a difference! Prove it!!


I personally don't believe cables make a difference. Yes I do spend hundreds on brand name cables. Why? Because I can!

[Deleted]

Mar 6, 2011 9:45:16 GMT -5 kse said:

I got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale...........

Snobby

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Mar 6, 2011 11:02:16 GMT -5 DYohn said:

A horse just went by and left a couple road apples.... don't step in them.

Snobby

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Mar 6, 2011 14:59:04 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

Mar 6, 2011 11:18:30 GMT -5 geebo said:

Well, when the electricicals get past that residential wiring and outlet, they then have room to grow and expand and get bigger and stronger and procreate and multiply and speed up then hit the XPA with much more vigor and stamina. Hence the improved sound from the bigger, faster, and more numerous electrons.

Just keep in mind that you have to observe the directional arrows on the cord because if you do it the other way around then the little electro-happy faces get smaller and less energetic and soon lose their will to do anything except make unhappy faces (and in rare cases become suicidal and set themselves on fire).

You also want to make sure you get not just a 3D cord (which enables the electro-zens to move in 3 dimensions) but it has to be a 4D cord that time aligns them. Otherwise some will sprint to the other side of the cord and others will take their time and what will happen is your sound will be fuzzy. I have heard the difference between a mere 3D cord and a 4D cord and let me tell you, it is astonishing.

Snobby

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AZ Sound Man,

The constructive criticism of your postings is absolutely correct. Using paragraph breaks and proper English capitalization serves to make your posts easier to read and comprehend. I know that I simply blow by yours because of your lack of using these basic skills.

This is not being said to slam you, just some friendly advice. You will find that more folks are inclined to read and take seriously your posts when you do use proper English sentence strucuture and grammar.

I'm just sayin'....

-RW-

[Lonnie]

You know over the years I have tested a number of cables both in real world testing as well as on the bench and I personally can't tell a difference as long as the cable was well constructed to begin with. But that is just me. If someone else says they can hear a difference, who am I to say that can or can't? What can I say, my ears just aren't what they used to be.

[selkec]

Mar 7, 2011 3:09:40 GMT -5 azsoundman said:

Heres a good analogy; The stock exhaust system in most vechicles restricts the exhaust 'flow' when it combines both sides of the
engine into a single muffler and out a single tailpipe. Now when a dual exhaust system is used, each side
of the engine is allowed to vent independently from each other, better acceleration and 'performance' so to speak. We did NOT change the 'engine' at all (your amplifier) but we Did give it a 'better' way (your power cord) to both expell its waste and lower its pressure with less restrictions. If you take a stock 16G
power cord and change it to a 12 or 13 guage power cord, You Will Hear what I explained above.

Not exactly a good analogy. So after you put on your afrer market exhaust did you bolt back on the smaller diameter old exhaust? I doubt it your analogy is incorrect. Because you say the car (amp) is made better exceleration (sound) by a larger less restrictive exhaust (power cord). The problem here is the exhaust is where it ends with a car. Thhis is not where it ends with the amp.Think about this. after your better power cord how many miles of smaller cheap wire does your power come from to get to your house.

[cgolf]

I've tried many different cables at many different prices, although nothing in the $100s of dollar range, and have never been able to tell a difference. BUT that is just me as many others have said.

I'm not an engineer so I don't understand all the mechanics of cabling and what could make different cables sound better or different.

I think sometimes we want to hear a difference and so we do.

The debate goes on......................just like politics!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D