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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 10:42:37 GMT -5
Yes, I've been reading up on the use of Audyssey. I'm pretty excited by its ability to independently process two subs. XT32 was one of the reasons I chose this unit over the Marantz. I've never even run EmoQ as it seemed setting things up manually was/is a whole lot better.
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Post by briank on Oct 17, 2011 11:18:19 GMT -5
I think you'll be happy with your choice Theresa. Although I've enjoyed the Marantz for a couple of weeks now, I'm probably going to return it in favor of the Anthem. The Marantz provides a very clear and detailed sound but it's simply too lean sounding with my speakers. The Anthem was just a perfect match for my system and the ARC did an awesome job.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 11:34:24 GMT -5
That's probably the first time I've heard a description of the Marantz sounding lean. Brian, which Anthem are you considering ?
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 17, 2011 14:31:36 GMT -5
No offense but why are you pushing the The Upgrade Company? Do you own any of their products? Without giving my personal opinion of TUC anyone interested in them should read through this thread from AVS. www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1198719Bill Thanks Bill; I was waiting for someone to bring that up (I already knew about it). |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 14:37:19 GMT -5
The opposite of "lean" would be "fatty."
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 17, 2011 14:50:03 GMT -5
Marantz is a Cirrus Logic advocate (DSPs & DACs) with its own tweaked signature sound.
The results can be "forward smoothness" with a touch a "euphonic reverb".
...Depending on the loudspeakers and sources used.
...And cables too (Interconnects & Speaker wires).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 15:05:47 GMT -5
I prefer a component to be as neutral as possible. You know how I feel about cables.
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 17, 2011 16:53:17 GMT -5
Ya, I know how you feel about wires Theresa.  |
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Post by briank on Oct 17, 2011 17:16:52 GMT -5
That's probably the first time I've heard a description of the Marantz sounding lean. Brian, which Anthem are you considering ? Not sure yet. I may go back to the MRX300 as a pre-pro or try to work a deal on a used D2, or AVM50. My dealer had a demo Anthem PrePro he might make me a deal on. He's recovering from surgery right now though and will be out for another 10 days. He told me the Anthem sounded better than the Marantz or Denon but I had to find out for myself, especially with all the great reviews. I think the Marantz would be a better match for warmer speakers like Emotiva's. My speakers are super detailed but not very forgiving. |
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Post by briank on Oct 17, 2011 18:24:31 GMT -5
The opposite of "lean" would be "fatty." Lol, something like that. By lean I mean the midrange is not as "full" sounding as it should be. The UMC-1 and Anthem both have a "fuller" sounding midrange that sounds better with my speakers. Some people might like the leaner/thinner sound but I prefer a little more fatter/fuller sound even though I might lose a little detail. The Marantz serves up plenty of detail, so much so, that it's picky about recordings. I just find myself missing the rich, natural sound the Anthem MRX300 provided when used as a PrePro. With that said, I have another 10 days to keep auditioning the Marantz to see if the sound grows on me or if things improve. |
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 17, 2011 18:58:28 GMT -5
The opposite of "lean" would be "fatty." Meaty. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 4:47:22 GMT -5
The 5508 is on it's way, due to arrive Thursday. I hope I'm home as I have an appointment and won't be home for a couple of hours. I arranged to have someone come over and help me with the installation (putting together new rack, lifting etc.) on Friday.
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Post by flamingeye on Oct 18, 2011 9:52:19 GMT -5
I’ve always liked the sound of a Marantz , but it has been a few decades since I heard one and I had a peavy 31band EQ hooked up to it too.
Theresa congratulations I think your going to love that 5508 and what Audyssey xt32 can do for your room
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Post by moovtune on Oct 18, 2011 13:18:29 GMT -5
No offense but why are you pushing the The Upgrade Company? Do you own any of their products? Without giving my personal opinion of TUC anyone interested in them should read through this thread from AVS. www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1198719Bill I'm not pushing them - there was talk of the Onkyo's not sounding as good as the Marantz and I was simply pointing out a possible option that might improve the sound of an Onkyo. It seems, in that thread, that like most things there are differing opinions concerning the upgrade. That would be up to someone to explore if they were interested. I had stumbled upon their site recently so was mentioning them, as I said, as an option. I've had no experience with them myself. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 13:57:46 GMT -5
No offense but why are you pushing the The Upgrade Company? Do you own any of their products? Without giving my personal opinion of TUC anyone interested in them should read through this thread from AVS. www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1198719Bill Thanks for the info. I'm not pushing them - there was talk of the Onkyo's not sounding as good as the Marantz and I was simply pointing out a possible option that might improve the sound of an Onkyo. It seems, in that thread, that like most things there are differing opinions concerning the upgrade. That would be up to someone to explore if they were interested. I had stumbled upon their site recently so was mentioning them, as I said, as an option. I've had no experience with them myself. I will have to judge the SQ of the Onkyo myself. Its been ordered and can only be returned if its defective or with payment of a restocking fee. I'm not a purist and enjoy listening to music with a subwoofer, often with DPL II, and don't use direct mode. Most of my time is spent watching movies with a much smaller part being music listening which I took into account when deciding to purchase. |
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Post by moovtune on Oct 18, 2011 14:39:23 GMT -5
I hope you'll like the Onkyo. My 886, with original firmware, has worked perfectly for me for 1 1/2 years now and I'm happy with the sound of it for movies. I use my Oppo to decode my SACD's (it's the DVD player and can't pass the raw SACD to my 886) and my ERC-1 to the XLR analog ins. So I'm using the 886 D/A conversion only for movies but I'm sure if I used a digital in from the CD player I'd be perfectly satisfied with that too. I think you'll be pleased with its sound. No upgrade from outside sources needed.
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Post by billmac on Oct 18, 2011 16:07:35 GMT -5
I'm not pushing them - there was talk of the Onkyo's not sounding as good as the Marantz and I was simply pointing out a possible option that might improve the sound of an Onkyo. It seems, in that thread, that like most things there are differing opinions concerning the upgrade. That would be up to someone to explore if they were interested. I had stumbled upon their site recently so was mentioning them, as I said, as an option. I've had no experience with them myself. I understand. But TUC is a company that will not disclose any information as the mods being done to the components they are modding. TUC puts seals on the covers of components they mod so that the owner can not remove the cover without voiding the "warranty". When questioned about this and other issues the owner of TUC Dave Schultz became quite angry with those asking the questions. Some might feel the Onkyo's are lacking in SQ for music and that is true to a certain aspect. When using any digital inputs or the CD analog input of my 886 I agree the SQ is not as good as the UMC-1. But as I mentioned early when using the 7.1 analog input for 2CH music I find the SQ to be very good. I'm assuming the difference is that the 7.1 analog input bypasses all processing of the 886. When I had the UMC-1 I compared it to my Parasound 2100 for 2CH music SQ. It was very close but I preferred the 2100 by a slight margin. To me this showed that the UMC-1 is excellent with 2CH music. Comparing the 886 using the 7.1 analog input to the 2100 the 2CH SQ is excellent for both. Right now I am listening to the 886 and I feel there is no need for any mods . Bill |
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Post by edoggrc51 on Oct 18, 2011 16:09:46 GMT -5
Yes, I've been reading up on the use of Audyssey. I'm pretty excited by its ability to independently process two subs. XT32 was one of the reasons I chose this unit over the Marantz. I've never even run EmoQ as it seemed setting things up manually was/is a whole lot better. Let us know what you think of XT32. I have a feeling you're gonna love it. By the way, for me (and a few other members here using XT32) running the EQ software was truly an automatic process. Meaning I let the AVR do it's thing and didn't adjust anything, not even the x-overs (even though it set some of the channels to "large"). Only thing I did do was bump up the subs 3db's. Of course YMMV, but for me and my room the more I adjusted things the worse it sounded, so I just left it alone. |
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Post by billmac on Oct 18, 2011 16:19:04 GMT -5
I will have to judge the SQ of the Onkyo myself. Its been ordered and can only be returned if its defective or with payment of a restocking fee. I'm not a purist and enjoy listening to music with a subwoofer, often with DPL II, and don't use direct mode. Most of my time is spent watching movies with a much smaller part being music listening which I took into account when deciding to purchase. I think you will be very happy with the 5508. The fact that you are not a purist with music and you watch movies more so than you listen to music then the 5508 will be just fine IMO. I will be very curious as to how you like the way XT32 sounds in your room. Bill |
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Post by flamingeye on Oct 19, 2011 7:45:42 GMT -5
I’m not a purist , but music is the most important thing for me and my Onkyo (pr-sc5507) does very good with music and even better with multichannel music is it the best I’ve ever heard well no, but my room that it’s in is not the best for music ether there is a lot of factors that go into making music sound it’s best and I haven’t achieved them all anyway that’s for another discussion
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